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Started by John_Hannah, December 31, 2022, 09:37:05 AM

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John_Hannah

Quote from: Charles Austin on January 07, 2023, 10:10:22 AM
It is a more balanced piece on Ratzinger/Benedict than I had ever seen before.

Indeed it is. I liked it also. I wanted to post it but am not sure that we can do that anymore. (Next time I see something of interest to Lutherans here, I'll try again.)

"More balance" is something we should strive for on this Online Forum.

Peace, JOHN
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peter_speckhard

Quote from: Matt Hummel on January 07, 2023, 10:58:29 AM
Quote from: Charles Austin on January 07, 2023, 05:13:09 AM
Yes to this:
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/opinion/pope-benedict-legacy.html

Again for those who don't spend their disposable income the times, what does it say?
Agreed. A fair use quote of the basic thesis paragraph would be helpful.

Charles Austin

There are ways to access New York Times articles, which often appear in other newspapers around the country. Look around. Do some basic research. Or spend a little money.
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peter_speckhard

Quote from: Charles Austin on January 07, 2023, 11:09:13 AM
There are ways to access New York Times articles, which often appear in other newspapers around the country. Look around. Do some basic research. Or spend a little money.
Or you could do a quick cut and paste of the main paragraph or two, since you're the one recommending the article.

Jeremy_Loesch

Quote from: Charles Austin on January 07, 2023, 11:09:13 AM
There are ways to access New York Times articles, which often appear in other newspapers around the country. Look around. Do some basic research. Or spend a little money.

Charles Arrogant: Mortgage, kid about to go to college, kids still at home, utilities, life...I don't subscribe to media or state media like the Times or the Post. A fair use quote should not go against your "ethics."

Oh, and use the quote feature.

Oh, and Fletch is a real human being (completely viable btw). I've shaken hands with him/her/they, so please stop with the whining of this poster's anonymity.

Jeremy

Charles Austin

We were told that anonymous posting is against the rules of this forum. If I'm wrong about that, let the moderators correct me. And it is particularly odious when the anonymous poster slams other individuals here.
ELCA PASTOR. Iowa born and raised. And look at this. Here's the old 1960s protestor and critic of our government as virtually the only "love this country" patriot in this forum.

David Garner

Quote from: Charles Austin on January 07, 2023, 02:51:49 PM
We were told that anonymous posting is against the rules of this forum. If I'm wrong about that, let the moderators correct me. And it is particularly odious when the anonymous poster slams other individuals here.

Yeah, partisan political hackery is too.
Orthodox Reader and former Lutheran (LCMS and WELS).

Charles Austin

With Benedict XVI gone from the scene, Francis may take some bold steps to implement his concerns about the Roman Catholic Church.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/world/europe/pope-francis-after-benedict.html
ELCA PASTOR. Iowa born and raised. And look at this. Here's the old 1960s protestor and critic of our government as virtually the only "love this country" patriot in this forum.

RDPreus

Can you share what the article said?  I can't get it without paying and I'm too cheap to do that.

J. Thomas Shelley

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Quote from: RDPreus on January 08, 2023, 06:16:37 PM
Can you share what the article said?  I can't get it without paying and I'm too cheap to do that.

Ditto.

I find the posting of naked links highly offensive.

Such a practice is banned on several other Christian message boards.

Sample from one board's list of prohibited actions:

Quote

Post naked links (i.e., link with no description of what's on the other side) or full articles. You should have between a sentence and a paragraph either quoting what's on the linked page or summarizing.

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Dan Fienen

Quote from: Charles Austin on January 08, 2023, 05:17:49 AM
With Benedict XVI gone from the scene, Francis may take some bold steps to implement his concerns about the Roman Catholic Church.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/07/world/europe/pope-francis-after-benedict.html
Interesting analysis/speculation. Perhaps Pope Francis will no longer be constrained by the continuing background presence of his more conservative predecessor. Perhaps the conservative followers of Pope Emeritus Benedict will no longer be constrained by his support for his successor. Speculation of maneuvering behind the scenes is especially uncertain.


This is a time of uncertainty and possible change for our Roman Catholic brothers and sisters as the leadership of their church readjusts. Change is always difficult. Nobody but God knows how things will settle out, and He isn't giving spoilers. As much good as it could be to be aware of the possibilities, the range of possible outcomes is large. I pray that God's will be done and everyone involved listens to His promptings
Pr. Daniel Fienen
LCMS

Jeremy_Loesch

Thanks for the synopsis Dan. It seems as if the same fear is present, it just resides on the other side. Those afraid of what Pope Benedict XVI might have done are now feeling free while the supporters of Benedict are now sounding the alarms. What did Qoholeth say? Nothing new under the sun. I wish Benedict would not have retired and would have allowed the Roman Church to care for him and love him in his old age. As it is, they showed great love to him in his retirement.

Jeremy

Donald_Kirchner

Quote from: J. Thomas Shelley on January 08, 2023, 07:16:50 PM
Quote from: RDPreus on January 08, 2023, 06:16:37 PM
Can you share what the article said?  I can't get it without paying and I'm too cheap to do that.

Ditto.

I find the posting of naked links highly offensive.

Such a practice is banned on several other Christian message boards.

Sample from one board's list of prohibited actions:

Quote

Post naked links (i.e., link with no description of what's on the other side) or full articles. You should have between a sentence and a paragraph either quoting what's on the linked page or summarizing.


My apologies.

Fixed it.
Don Kirchner

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