Started by Rev. Richard A. Bolland, November 19, 2022, 10:21:10 PM
Quote from: JoshuaMc on November 23, 2022, 06:40:44 PMTom, I've encountered Koonin's book and been tempted to use bits of it in an undergraduate course I teach. The problem with him is again that he's not a climate expert. If you look at his dissertation, he's trained in quantum mechanics. He also had a high-profile position at BP. He's not an atmospheric scientist and his graduate students have called him out on his narrative in Unsettled. My impression is that if you look at atmospheric scientists and cyrologists and oceanographers, there is a really strong consensus that global warming is real and problematic for our ability to maintain our ways of life as we know them right now. The dissent tends to come from physicists and geologists who have worked for the oil industry, or parts of the government like DOE that have traditionally been sympathetic to the industry. Again me claiming to be a reformation expert. This dynamic helps illuminate the "rage" against dissent. There isn't really significant dissent among climate experts. The the dissenters are folks on the fringe of the discipline or not even on the fringe who claim expertise. Maybe the analogy is the pastor down the street with no MDiv but with a congregation twice the size of one of our Lutheran parishes that siphons off members because "they're so spirit filled." You can't have a doctrinal discussion with that pastor because he'll move the goalposts over and over again, all the while claiming to be rooted in biblical truth.
Quote from: Charles Austin on November 23, 2022, 08:18:43 PMPastor Kirchner:It must be a frightening world for one who thinks that God is not in control, manifested by:...Me:You don't believe we have the capability to destroy the world, and that our sins might be leading us to do so? And do you believe that we are guaranteed that our species will continue forever and ever? I don't. We might be a failed experiment. And perhaps God created a more perfect earth somewhere far beyond the range of our telescopes.
Quote from: Charles Austin on November 24, 2022, 03:58:37 AMPeter writes:The Apostles' Creed seems to guarantee that this species, that is, humans, will indeed go on.I comment:Huh?
Quote from: Charles Austin on November 24, 2022, 08:45:33 AMOk, life everlasting. With a gracious God in eternity.Life on this earth? Not so everlasting, for us as individuals or for humans as a species.
Quote from: Charles Austin on November 24, 2022, 09:34:00 AMMaybe we won't be at all.
Quote from: Charles Austin on November 24, 2022, 10:29:09 AMPastor Preus:Is it possible that scientists who work for oil companies may have more leeway to question the established opinion on climate change? Me:Possible? It's not only possible it's required. Scientists who work for oil companies are likely to report that their findings support the oil companies' actions aimed at bringing the oil companies greater profit.