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Re: Front Lines of Ministry
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2022, 09:45:59 AM »
My first congregation was Concordia in Lincoln Village on the far west side of Columbus.  It began on the Hilltop but moved west when Nationwide Insurance offered some land to congregations that would move into the then new Lincoln Village.  The congregation jumped at the chance.  The Hilltop is a nice neighborhood but it has some rough elements for sure.  I'm sorry to see that happen.  In the early 2000s we still had several families who lived in the Hilltop, all of them going to West HS.  I do wonder about the training the pastor had in deescalation.  I don't have that training, or the little that I do may not be enough. 

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« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2022, 12:09:45 PM »
My first congregation was Concordia in Lincoln Village on the far west side of Columbus.  It began on the Hilltop but moved west when Nationwide Insurance offered some land to congregations that would move into the then new Lincoln Village.  The congregation jumped at the chance.  The Hilltop is a nice neighborhood but it has some rough elements for sure.  I'm sorry to see that happen.  In the early 2000s we still had several families who lived in the Hilltop, all of them going to West HS.  I do wonder about the training the pastor had in deescalation.  I don't have that training, or the little that I do may not be enough. 

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The Hilltop used to be a desirable neighborhood, I'm told.  I used to visit families there and they complained about how much it had changed. They've moved out. Lot's of drugs; growing violence have moved in.

I had an experience like this street scuffle some years ago. Heard people yelling and went outside. On the street and sidewalk below the parsonage there were about thirty youth. I didn't recognize them as part of the neighborhood. Some were fighting, others egging them on. I stood on our lawn above them, took out my phone, and crossed my arms in a posture of disapproval. Slowly they started noticing me watching them and started back towards High Street from where they apparently came. I never said a word and stayed at a distance the whole time.

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« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2022, 12:27:27 PM »
Tough to watch - the pastor looks like a burly guy, but he just got overrun by a gang/mob of kids.  I was doing confirmation class a few years ago, kids who mostly attended a notorious middle school, so I began with "how was your day at school?"  One student goes, "OK, not terrible, some days have been better, I guess.  My friend was thrown out of the third story window, but at least she didn't die."  Say what?

 Speaking with a young man now a husband and father recently, he recounted as he often does that without the church, which he entered right off the street in his teens, he would probably be dead.  We're trying to revitalize our neighborhood youth presence - very difficult, very risky, very necessary. as followers of Jesus.

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« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2022, 06:45:45 PM »
An odd thing about my experience was that the fighting seemed unreal, staged. I found myself wondering if the youths we're acting. Surreal.
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« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2022, 07:09:15 PM »
An odd thing about my experience was that the fighting seemed unreal, staged. I found myself wondering if the youths we're acting. Surreal.

The fact that violence was real does not preclude it being staged. I teach at an inner city all male HS. We have had issues with kids using the one bathroom for boys as a place for "Fight Club," complete with videos being uploaded to various social media platforms.

SO something almost akin to duels can develop, where a time and a place are chosen and then folks attend with their ubiquitous cell phones and, BAM!
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