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Remote ashes???
« on: February 17, 2021, 12:18:47 PM »
Well, we have all heard of "remote communion." Now, "remote ashes?" This was forwarded to me. (Identifiers are redacted.)

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Given the forecast for tomorrow, we are changing our plans.  Instead of a drive-in Ash Wednesday service at 6 p.m., we are inviting you to a 'Zoom-in' service instead - still at 6 p.m.  The link is in the attached document.

This abbreviated service will include imposition of ashes and Holy Communion; the full recorded non-communion service will still be available on our website and youtube channel at 5 p.m.

If you would like to participate in the Zoom-in service tomorrow, you may either pick up ashes and communion packets at the church from 4-6 p.m. today (2/16) or from 10-12 tomorrow (2/17).  You may also choose to provide your own communion elements (bread or cracker/wine or grape juice) and ashes - burnt palms from last year or simple household dust will do.  (If you need instructions on burning and preparing palm ash, please email pastor@xxxxx.xxx.)  (If you need to have ashes and communion sets dropped off for you, please contact xxxxxx at xxxx@xxxx.xxx.)

Hope to see you online tomorrow for Ash Wednesday and the beginning of our Lenten journey together.  Today - stay warm and safe and enjoy your pancakes/fastnachts/donuts/or whatever your Shrove Tuesday tradition might be.

In Christ,
Pr. XXXXXXX

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"Simple household dust?"

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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2021, 12:36:45 PM »
The mother told her son on ash Wednesday that “yes, dear, we come from dust and we shall return to dust“
That night the little boy comes running downstairs and says “mommy! Mommy! There’s someone under my bed and I don’t know whether he’s coming or going!“
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2021, 12:42:14 PM »
The mother told her son on ash Wednesday that “yes, dear, we come from dust and we shall return to dust“
That night the little boy comes running downstairs and says “mommy! Mommy! There’s someone under my bed and I don’t know whether he’s coming or going!“

I believe I first heard Danny Thomas tell this joke on his old show.  Am I now certifiably old?  :-\
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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2021, 12:45:06 PM »
I guess remote ashes doesn’t bother me the same “remote communion” does.

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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2021, 12:54:29 PM »
The mother told her son on ash Wednesday that “yes, dear, we come from dust and we shall return to dust“
That night the little boy comes running downstairs and says “mommy! Mommy! There’s someone under my bed and I don’t know whether he’s coming or going!“

That was the first thing that entered my mind when I read this! LOL
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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2021, 01:22:41 PM »
Since the Ashes are symbolic teleashes would not be problematic for me. The telecommunion raises all the issues previously discussed. House hold dust? Well, it does give opportunity for an oldie but goodie joke. Since Lentis a journey from Transfiguration to the Cross and the Empty Tomb of Easter we could perhaps consider the household dust as Easter Dust Bunnies.
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2021, 01:48:42 PM »
Since the Ashes are symbolic teleashes would not be problematic for me. The telecommunion raises all the issues previously discussed. House hold dust? Well, it does give opportunity for an oldie but goodie joke. Since Lentis a journey from Transfiguration to the Cross and the Empty Tomb of Easter we could perhaps consider the household dust as Easter Dust Bunnies.

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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2021, 01:55:24 PM »
We did ashes the normal way in school chapel this morning and will again at two Divine Services this afternoon and evening. Nobody has to get them, but they're available to those who want them.

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2021, 02:11:54 PM »
As noted on another thread, we also did ashes the normal way. I think all but five people ended up receiving them; and of those five three were tardy for the Divine Service and so missed the imposition (which pastor does near the start of the liturgy).
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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2021, 03:15:49 PM »
But the question is surely relevant -- if not remote Word, remote Bible study, remote preaching, remote ashes, then why not Holy Communion?  We have learned in this pandemic to have everything delivered from soup to nuts to medicine to Sunday dinner, it is a hard lesson not to apply to the things of God's House.  We will be wrestling with this for a very long time -- including and especially those who do not see that virtual is by definition not real and that online is not a salutary substitute for much of anything to do with the church.
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2021, 03:24:40 PM »
I gave a caveat about imposition of ashes this morning: I would not use a glove and would not wash between applications. Everyone but the musicians and a visitor came forward.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2021, 03:35:23 PM »
But the question is surely relevant -- if not remote Word, remote Bible study, remote preaching, remote ashes, then why not Holy Communion?  We have learned in this pandemic to have everything delivered from soup to nuts to medicine to Sunday dinner, it is a hard lesson not to apply to the things of God's House.  We will be wrestling with this for a very long time -- including and especially those who do not see that virtual is by definition not real and that online is not a salutary substitute for much of anything to do with the church.

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Re: Remote ashes???
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2021, 03:53:05 PM »
If we receive them via smartphone are they smart ashes?

I'll just show myself out......
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2021, 06:10:28 PM »
This past Sunday I preached on the different meanings of “here” and the different senses in which it is true to say “It is good, Lord, that we are here.”

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2021, 08:05:27 PM »
If we receive them via smartphone are they smart ashes?

I'll just show myself out......

Good idea after such incinderary language.
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