Started by Rev. Edward Engelbrecht, January 07, 2021, 01:19:55 PM
Quote from: Weedon on January 07, 2021, 03:25:45 PMI'll close with one observation: It seems to me that it was, overall, a mistake to deviate from the original Lutheran liturgical instinct of treating the Prayer of the Church as an ordinary to making it be a proper. What we need to ask of God really doesn't change all that much with the readings; and trying to tie them all together sometimes comes across to me as rather forced and pedestrian. YMMV
Quote from: Weedon on January 08, 2021, 10:46:18 AMEktenne form uses the format of the litany of St Jn Chrysostom, Basil etc where the form is: for..... let us pray to the Lord: Lord, have mercy. So the actual prayer is the people's response and the deacon or priest merely bids the intention toward which that Lord, have mercy is being directed.
Quote from: Weedon on January 08, 2021, 12:57:13 PMI think, Brian, you are confusing the Ektenne form with the Bidding Prayer. The Bidding Prayer is the classic Western form that sadly early disappeared from the mass save for on Good Friday. But in it, the deacon did indeed bid facing the people (and they were also told to kneel as they silently prayed for the bid, then to stand again when the priest prayed the collect). But the Ektenne form does not involve any turning at all. It is prayed toward the altar entirely.