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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2020, 11:34:23 AM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2020, 11:45:28 AM »
And now we wait to hear what kind of words come from the president-elect and the people around him.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2020, 11:57:00 AM »
So, if that's settled, two questions that need answering:

1. What's the over/under on how long Biden remains in office until they scoot him out for Harris? Will he last a month?

2. Who do we invade first?

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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2020, 11:59:38 AM »
And now we wait to hear what kind of words come from the president-elect and the people around him.

You mean like Biden's campaign official who tweeted, "The United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House"?

Yep, that's a positive, upbeat statement.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2020, 12:03:50 PM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.
But the big contention was not just that the Russians tried to interfere but that Trump was working with them. It's the collusion story that turned out to be bogus and yet the Democrats spent three years hammering him with it.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2020, 12:04:56 PM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.

That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.

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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2020, 12:18:36 PM »
Not anymore. I would not even have brought it up.

And jebutler writes:
You mean like Biden's campaign official who tweeted, "The United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House"?
I comment:
That is unfair. The person was responding to a question that asks what if the man in the oval office refuses to leave, which he has implied he will do.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2020, 12:46:22 PM »
The former governor of Illinois, who is spent time in prison on corruption charges, so he knows a thing or two about big city machine politics and political shenanigans, was quoted as saying that if the question is whether the Democrats are stealing votes in Philadelphia, his response is, “Is the pope Catholic?” He would know more about it than anyone in this forum, and in his mind it is simply par for the course for old Democrat machines in massive, northern urban centers to do whatever it takes and expect to get away with it.

The massive discussion underway about whether this election is being stolen has merit on both sides.


Thinking there is fraud in the voting and/or counting, and having evidence to support the charge are two quite different things. A friend, who had to deal with the mob in Las Vegas, is certain that no one could be in the construction industry in New York City (as Trump is) without mob connections. She's as much as an expert as your former governor.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2020, 12:53:45 PM »
Pretty rich coming from a guy who saw invisible Russian interference in our elections for four years without any credible evidence from any credible people. The DNC bought a lie, planted it, and investigated it relentlessly so that the words "corruption" and "stolen election" would adhere to the 2016 results for president's entire term.


Don't confuse Russian interference in the 2016 election, which has been proven; and Trump and his camp colluding with the Russians to interfere, which has not been proven. 12 Russians have been indicted for meddling in the 2016 election. https://apnews.com/article/1ddb174446a34785becd670275fedcbf

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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2020, 12:55:53 PM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.

That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.


There's plenty of evidence that the Russians meddled in the 2016 elections. It is something. Much was done in 2020 to try and curtail meddling in our elections by foreign governments.
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2020, 01:37:31 PM »
I suspect that Republicans are already planning for the midterm elections.  They may have lost the presidency, but historically they stand to gain in the House in two years, building on gains from this election.  Of course Biden has a chance to show that he is not strictly partisan and inspire folks from both sides.  The next few months will be telling....
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2020, 02:47:00 PM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.

That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.

There's plenty of evidence that the Russians meddled in the 2016 elections. It is something. Much was done in 2020 to try and curtail meddling in our elections by foreign governments.

To repeat with emphasis:
That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.

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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2020, 02:47:56 PM »
It's not over yet.  It looks like the next few months will be interesting.

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/statement-from-president-donald-j.-trump/

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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2020, 04:50:33 PM »
And I repeat, Peter. If anybody’s got the evidence, bring it. Otherwise, this is nothing.
That Russian thing? Yeah it was true, they interfered on behalf of Trump. but that was then, this is now.

That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.

There's plenty of evidence that the Russians meddled in the 2016 elections. It is something. Much was done in 2020 to try and curtail meddling in our elections by foreign governments.

To repeat with emphasis:
That Russian thing? If anybody has evidence of collusion, bring it.  Otherwise it is nothing.  But you sure cling to it.


Nope. Don't cling to Trump colluding with the Russians. Can you admit that the Russians meddled in the 2016 elections?
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Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2020, 05:05:27 PM »

Nope. Don't cling to Trump colluding with the Russians. Can you admit that the Russians meddled in the 2016 elections?
Sure or well they tried. It is unproven at best that they succeeded in changing one electoral vote, or that the election outcome would have been any different if they had done nothing.
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