Judge Amy Barrett Confirmation Hearings

Started by Julio, October 12, 2020, 10:27:33 AM

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Julio

The Judge Amy Barrett hearings have begun .. consolidating discussions on these hearings will allow existing topics to continue focusing on their intended topic ...let the discussion begin.

Jeremy Loesch

I've been listening through the NPR affiliate in KC (KCUR, 89.3FM) to the hearings, which on this day is just the opening statements from the senators.  It's moderately interesting.  And it's as if this is entirely scripted.  The Republican senators are interchangeable.  The Democratic senators are interchangeable.  And the lionizing of the Notorious RBG is a bit much.  Welcome Notorious ACB! 

Jeremy
A Lutheran pastor growing into all sorts of things.

James J Eivan

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Interesting ... the Republicans speak of the constitution ... and the responsibility to fill the seat ... in short the speak of the law.

The Democrats speak of the last words of a mere human as though it supersedes constitutional law ... when they are not mistakenly speaking as though they were in a health committee hearing.

Currently Ben Sasse is speaking on the difference between civics and politics.

peterm

James that is interesting...same thing happened in reverse in February of 2016
Rev. Peter Morlock- ELCA pastor serving two congregations in WIS

James J Eivan


Quote from: peterm on October 12, 2020, 12:03:46 PM
James that is interesting...same thing happened in reverse in February of 2016

Yes ... but MSM piously speaks of how one party has changed their position in 2016 while failing to equally report that the other side did the exact same thing. 


You do know that Biden, Harris and even Ginsburg in 2016 said Replace now ... so your point is ????🤔

Norman Teigen

Barrett should recuse herself.  Her qualifications for the position. are thin. The speeding confirmation express train should be red flagged and come to a stop.
Norman Teigen

David Garner

Quote from: Norman Teigen on October 12, 2020, 12:55:20 PM
Barrett should recuse herself.  Her qualifications for the position. are thin. The speeding confirmation express train should be red flagged and come to a stop.

Acknowledging I'm being fish hooked here, in what way are her qualifications "thin?"
Orthodox Reader and former Lutheran (LCMS and WELS).

Brian Stoffregen

Quote from: James on October 12, 2020, 12:51:43 PM

Quote from: peterm on October 12, 2020, 12:03:46 PM
James that is interesting...same thing happened in reverse in February of 2016

Yes ... but MSM piously speaks of how one party has changed their position in 2016 while failing to equally report that the other side did the exact same thing. 


One party is in control of the proceedings, both then and now. Their flip-flop makes a huge difference in what the Senate did and does. The other party's views didn't change anything then, nor now.
I flunked retirement. Serving as a part-time interim in Ferndale, WA.

Julio

Quote from: peterm on October 12, 2020, 12:03:46 PM
James that is interesting...same thing happened in reverse in February of 2016
Just heard Senator Harris reversed her position from 2016... Is that of concern to you? If not... Why not?

DeHall1

Quote from: Norman Teigen on October 12, 2020, 12:55:20 PM
Barrett should recuse herself.  Her qualifications for the position. are thin. The speeding confirmation express train should be red flagged and come to a stop.


That's not what the American Bar Association stated when the rated her as "well qualified" .   Where does your information come from?  Why was it not available to the ABA?  If it was available to the ABA, how did they arrive at such a different interpretation of that information than you did?

Dan Fienen

Well, she's Roman Catholic. Everybody knows that Roman Catholics have beliefs that make them unfit for government a service. But wait, Biden is RC and proud of it. Maybe it's only if you actually take RC teachings seriously that it is disqualifying.
Pr. Daniel Fienen
LCMS

D. Engebretson

Quote from: Dan Fienen on October 12, 2020, 02:02:40 PM
Well, she's Roman Catholic. Everybody knows that Roman Catholics have beliefs that make them unfit for government a service. But wait, Biden is RC and proud of it. Maybe it's only if you actually take RC teachings seriously that it is disqualifying.

I think that for some people it is a matter of how strongly convicted they are of the tenets of their faith, and how vocal they are as well.  Judge Barrett has been very active in her faith and at times vocal about her convictions.  Biden, OTOH, is quieter about them.  He does not deny being a member of the RC church, but does not seem to go out of his way to support the tenets of that faith beyond the basic "Christian" principles. When it comes to the RC position on abortion he is silent.   

I think that some feel Barrett will be unable - or unwilling - to render legal opinions and judgements based purely on the rule of law, in this case, the principles of the constitution.  I think they are also fearful that she will be a kind of political puppet of Trump, an anti-Roe v. Wade agent sent to sink the abortion ship.

It seems that the less open you are about your faith and the particular beliefs of your church the better you are when it comes to confirmation hearings. 
Pastor Don Engebretson
St. Peter Lutheran Church of Polar (Antigo) WI

Norman Teigen

My wife and I would like to see Kamala Harris question the nominee.  No one is making the nominee's religion  a  qualification for office. Nice try, Pastor Fienen.
Norman Teigen

Dan Fienen

Quote from: Norman Teigen on October 12, 2020, 03:05:04 PM
My wife and I would like to see Kamala Harris question the nominee.  No one is making the nominee's religion  a  qualification for office. Nice try, Pastor Fienen.
I'm just remembering what I heard about her last confirmation hearing for her current judgeship.
Pr. Daniel Fienen
LCMS

John Koke

Quote from: Norman Teigen on October 12, 2020, 03:05:04 PM
My wife and I would like to see Kamala Harris question the nominee.  No one is making the nominee's religion  a  qualification for office. Nice try, Pastor Fienen.

Except you never answered either David Garner's nor DeHall1's questions as to why you consider her qualifications "thin".  As you put it Pastor Fienen, "Nice try, Mr. Teigen."

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