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« Reply #3735 on: May 10, 2021, 10:17:32 PM »
from the other side of the Pacific
Our Hokkaido weekly total of new cases reached a peak of 2005 for 5/9 This is for our population of 5.2 million.  Our last peak was 1805 in late November.  April 25ths weekly total was 889.  New cases dropped from late Nov until Feb then started to climb again.  Nationally out of 127million; 3,277,886 shots of the vaccine have been given. 
Because of the low level of infection there was a ventilator and an icu bed for my 84 y.o. father in law when he needed 1 due to a very severe case of silent pneumonia.
a very small number of cases have appeared in our Municipal District in the last 2 weeks.  this is the 2nd time the virus has reached us.
Naturally the virus is much more common where people take the subway, stand next to each other when they wait to cross the street etc.  Masking in public is universal.  My mask hangs on a soother strap on my shirt so it wont be forgotten when I go out the door and is not at the other end of the room when the doorbell rings.

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« Reply #3736 on: May 10, 2021, 10:46:24 PM »
And from the other side of the Bosporus.

What a difference a year makes!   Last Holy Week and Pascha we were restricted (by our Hierarch, NOT our Governor) to just five "essential" people per service, none of whom could be over the age of 65.

This year:  No age restrictions.  Attendance caps at 75% (again, set by Pittsburgh, not Harrisburg) but no one was counting.

The pictures on pages 4 and 5 tell the rest:

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« Reply #3737 on: May 12, 2021, 09:03:11 AM »
Some good news....

From the New York Times:
A fourth wave, avoided

A few months ago, there was widespread talk about the possibility of a “fourth wave” of Covid-19 in the U.S. this spring. Many states were relaxing restrictions, and many Americans, tired of sitting at home, were beginning to expose themselves to greater Covid risk even though they weren’t yet vaccinated.

Fortunately, however, the fourth wave has not arrived.

Cases and hospitalizations rose only modestly in late March and early April, and they have since begun falling again. Deaths have not risen in months.


Are are still issues related to COVID, but it's always nice to have a little good news.
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« Reply #3738 on: May 12, 2021, 11:24:28 AM »
Some good news....

From the New York Times:
A fourth wave, avoided

A few months ago, there was widespread talk about the possibility of a “fourth wave” of Covid-19 in the U.S. this spring. Many states were relaxing restrictions, and many Americans, tired of sitting at home, were beginning to expose themselves to greater Covid risk even though they weren’t yet vaccinated.

Fortunately, however, the fourth wave has not arrived.

Cases and hospitalizations rose only modestly in late March and early April, and they have since begun falling again. Deaths have not risen in months.


Are are still issues related to COVID, but it's always nice to have a little good news.

I like the way the NYT writes things. "Deaths have not risen in months." The number of deaths are, in fact, falling, down over 75% since January (4400-775 as of yesterday). Yesterday, for the first time since the pandemic hit, Massachusetts recorded no deaths due to COVID-19.

The case load went up in March and April from 65,000 cases per day (March 17) to a high of 81,000 cases per day about April 16. Now the number had dropped to about 30,000 cases per day, a 50% drop since the low in March. Here in Massachusetts, the number of new cases has plummeted 60% in the last two weeks.

I think it's clear that the vaccinations are working and that things are getting better. Te Deums all around!
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« Reply #3739 on: May 12, 2021, 11:30:56 AM »
And work must be done with the perhaps 20 percent who are refusing the vaccine, quite often for stupid reasons.
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« Reply #3740 on: May 12, 2021, 11:58:26 AM »
Some good news....

From the New York Times:
A fourth wave, avoided

A few months ago, there was widespread talk about the possibility of a “fourth wave” of Covid-19 in the U.S. this spring. Many states were relaxing restrictions, and many Americans, tired of sitting at home, were beginning to expose themselves to greater Covid risk even though they weren’t yet vaccinated.

Fortunately, however, the fourth wave has not arrived.

Cases and hospitalizations rose only modestly in late March and early April, and they have since begun falling again. Deaths have not risen in months.


Are are still issues related to COVID, but it's always nice to have a little good news.

I like the way the NYT writes things. "Deaths have not risen in months." The number of deaths are, in fact, falling, down over 75% since January (4400-775 as of yesterday). Yesterday, for the first time since the pandemic hit, Massachusetts recorded no deaths due to COVID-19.

The case load went up in March and April from 65,000 cases per day (March 17) to a high of 81,000 cases per day about April 16. Now the number had dropped to about 30,000 cases per day, a 50% drop since the low in March. Here in Massachusetts, the number of new cases has plummeted 60% in the last two weeks.

I think it's clear that the vaccinations are working and that things are getting better. Te Deums all around!

Yes to Te Deums.  We now have a bunch of options for those still on the outside looking in, as pop-up vaccination sites, mobile vaccination sites, and sites at subway stops (elevated train in my part of the world) with free subway passes are all options.  Our younger teenagers will be in church and I think will make a strong positive statement to our online audience about teen vaccination - the rest of the adult membership have already done a tremendous job of holding up their arms and thanking God before or after the worship service.

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« Reply #3741 on: May 12, 2021, 12:08:01 PM »
Dave, one of the late night guys talked about the vaccinations at subway stops. He said “yeah, when you go down into a subway, you’re thinking ‘what medical procedure could I get done down here?’”
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« Reply #3742 on: May 12, 2021, 12:22:08 PM »
And work must be done with the perhaps 20 percent who are refusing the vaccine, quite often for stupid reasons.

To you they are stupid. But not to them. Many of them see conspiracy. Unfortunately, the government does things that only reinforce their viewpoint. Case in point: the FDA's over-reaction of pulling the J&J vaccine didn't help. I had several of them tell me, "See, I told you!"

Then there was the news in yesterday's NYT that the CDC telling people that outdoor transmission of SARS-COV-2 was "under ten percent" when, in reality, it was .1% Once again, "You can't trust the CDC. They're just spreading panic porn to get you to do what they want." Oh yeah, then there was the news that the CDC changed its opening school guidelines at the behest of the teachers unions.

But then last summer you were opposed to reopening schools and refused to read articles that I linked to from journals such as Pediatrics that had hard science that disagreed with your opinion. So I guess refusal to change ones mind despite facts is a common affliction.
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« Reply #3743 on: May 12, 2021, 01:10:52 PM »
Dave, one of the late night guys talked about the vaccinations at subway stops. He said “yeah, when you go down into a subway, you’re thinking ‘what medical procedure could I get done down here?’”

There's the Right Rear Pocket Relief procedure, known as the filching of the wallet, which is why you don't have your wallet in the rear pocket.  It's just so weird to see the trains half empty.  Before the pandemic you needed a shoehorn to get in even in off-rush hours.  Same thing at the ballgames, where there are ties on the seats that can't be used and only 10000 of us in there - cashless, mask non-optional, vaccination or negative test proof mandated.  It's OK and will get better.

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« Reply #3744 on: May 12, 2021, 01:26:23 PM »
Our local pharmacy offered to come any time we asked, even Sunday morning, and administer either of two brands of the vaccine to anyone, no appointment needed. They only wanted an estimate of how many would likely come so they could thaw out close to the right number of doses. We might do it for the sake of Illinois people, who seem to struggle to appointments. But getting a decent guesstimate is the problem.

At our recent pastors’ conference everything was normal, including meals. One guy wore a mask. Other that it could have been 2019 in there.

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« Reply #3745 on: May 12, 2021, 01:34:27 PM »
And work must be done with the perhaps 20 percent who are refusing the vaccine, quite often for stupid reasons.

To you they are stupid. But not to them. Many of them see conspiracy. Unfortunately, the government does things that only reinforce their viewpoint. Case in point: the FDA's over-reaction of pulling the J&J vaccine didn't help. I had several of them tell me, "See, I told you!"


From what I understand, that was the normal procedure for the FDA when a question about side effects arises. With other medications, it doesn't get the publicity that this one did.

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Then there was the news in yesterday's NYT that the CDC telling people that outdoor transmission of SARS-COV-2 was "under ten percent" when, in reality, it was .1% Once again, "You can't trust the CDC. They're just spreading panic porn to get you to do what they want." Oh yeah, then there was the news that the CDC changed its opening school guidelines at the behest of the teachers unions.


But then last summer you were opposed to reopening schools and refused to read articles that I linked to from journals such as Pediatrics that had hard science that disagreed with your opinion. So I guess refusal to change ones mind despite facts is a common affliction.


Yet, we can see, like in India, when an abundance of precautions are not taken seriously. When people continue to pack together in large groups - even outdoors - the disease spreads - and kills.
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« Reply #3746 on: May 14, 2021, 09:07:52 AM »
The New York Times this morning:

A C.D.C. about-face

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is finally catching up to the science.

For months, research about Covid-19 has pointed to two encouraging patterns. First, the underlying virus that causes Covid rarely spreads outdoors. Second — and even more important — fully vaccinated people are at virtually no risk of serious disease and only a minuscule risk of spreading the virus to others.

But the C.D.C., which has long been a cautious agency, has been unwilling to highlight these facts. It has instead focused on tiny risks — risks that are smaller than those from, say, taking a car trip. The C.D.C.’s intricate list of recommended Covid behavior has baffled many Americans and frightened others, making the guidance less helpful than it might have been.

Yesterday, the agency effectively acknowledged it had fallen behind the scientific evidence: Even though that evidence has not changed in months, the C.D.C. overhauled its guidelines. It said fully vaccinated people could stop wearing masks in most settings, including crowded indoor gatherings.

The change sends a message: Vaccination means the end of the Covid crisis, for individuals and ultimately for society.


I think many of us were pleased to hear the update, but it's interesting, in this piece, to hear that their past concentration on "tiny risks" has contributed to no little fear throughout the population.  A fear, I note, that lingers within our Christian communities.  I am not opposed to seeing the use of masks continue as needed or as desired by those who feel more comfortable.  But I hope that word gets out that the gathering of people in our churches is essentially a safe place to be.  The return to the sanctuary in my church is slow.  It appears that the vaccine, however, is a game-changer for many people, which is a message the CDC and others are pushing. That said, I hope that the message also gets out that vaccinated folks hanging out with un-vaccinated folks is not a earth-shaking danger. As the article reports: "fully vaccinated people are at virtually no risk of serious disease and only a minuscule risk of spreading the virus to others." I can live with "no risk" and "minuscule risk."  I live with more than that as a firefighter. 
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« Reply #3747 on: May 14, 2021, 10:56:22 AM »
I am still listening to this, but kind of a fascinating interview on the topic of COVID 19 with Europe’s version of “Fauci.”

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-fat-emperor-podcast/id1453181214?i=1000521717071

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« Reply #3748 on: May 14, 2021, 12:20:34 PM »
And work must be done with the perhaps 20 percent who are refusing the vaccine, quite often for stupid reasons.

Why? If you're vaccinated why do you care? And if those who choose not to vaccinate get COVID, well...

Tough world, ain’t it?

Or even...

(Beloved Spouse suggests that the anti-mask, anti vaccine mania that exists among some on the far right or in the loony conspiracy lane may be God's way of culling the herd. )
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« Reply #3749 on: May 14, 2021, 05:38:17 PM »
Some headlines

https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/40-percent-of-cleveland-clinic-employees-refuse-coronavirus-vaccine/95-cd4aa6a2-731d-4187-99a8-169dc06c6294

https://www.recordonline.com/story/news/local/2021/04/23/skipping-covid-vaccine-local-nursing-home-workers-shun-shot/7348411002/

https://coronavirus.nautil.us/healthcare-workers-refuse-vaccine/

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A recent study by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that almost one-third of healthcare workers will “probably” or “definitely” refuse the vaccine. Healthcare workers are refusing to get it for a number of reasons, but a large factor is an overall distrust of the medical system from minority groups.

Dr. Nikhila Juvvadi, the chief clinical officer at Chicago’s Loretto Hospital, told NPR much of the skepticism in her hospital is due to this lack of trust from minorities.