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Halftime Show
« on: February 03, 2020, 01:50:29 PM »
The Superbowl halftime show was barely disguised (and I do mean barely) pole dancing show with precious little fabric preventing it from being rated xxx. And it was mostly women being as raunchy as possible, as if there were no greater glory than being lusted after. And they recruited a chorus of young girls to sing and dance while gazing adoringly at the famous strippers strutting their stuff.

The NFL also ran a commercial featuring a very masculine lesbian who is apparently a great hero for being the first person to coach in the NFL without male plumbing. The message was purely that females can be every bit as masculine as males, and are to be praised when they do so because the only reason they usually aren't NFL coaches is because of sexist oppression.

So, our nation's signature celebration was all about glorifying two very different but very wretched perversions of all that is feminine. If you're a young girl, you can set out to be a boy or a boy toy. And when both of those options prove disastrous for the woman, the blame for the failure will fall on the conservative religious traditionalists, who were the only ones to object to both perversions of real femininity in the first place.

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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2020, 02:06:25 PM »
Lest we forget the drag queens in the Sabra hummus commercial as well, all the while Fox refusing to air this pro-life commercial.

And of course, there is no bias in media these days.

I found it to be little more than soft porn.

The bee, as usual, has a great satirical spin on it:  https://babylonbee.com/news/cant-have-a-wardrobe-malfunction-if-you-dont-wear-the-wardrobe?fbclid=IwAR34jhId1fppBCD-mpvxXyYEf-cxm2CW4l2DGJwzpVY8CrHYFRY-L5BfNzM
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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2020, 02:30:08 PM »
The Superbowl halftime show was barely disguised (and I do mean barely) pole dancing show with precious little fabric preventing it from being rated xxx. And it was mostly women being as raunchy as possible, as if there were no greater glory than being lusted after. And they recruited a chorus of young girls to sing and dance while gazing adoringly at the famous strippers strutting their stuff.

The NFL also ran a commercial featuring a very masculine lesbian who is apparently a great hero for being the first person to coach in the NFL without male plumbing. The message was purely that females can be every bit as masculine as males, and are to be praised when they do so because the only reason they usually aren't NFL coaches is because of sexist oppression.

So, our nation's signature celebration was all about glorifying two very different but very wretched perversions of all that is feminine. If you're a young girl, you can set out to be a boy or a boy toy. And when both of those options prove disastrous for the woman, the blame for the failure will fall on the conservative religious traditionalists, who were the only ones to object to both perversions of real femininity in the first place.

I left the room for the half-time show and only returned to the TV when my wife told me it was over.  I'm not sure I want to watch the show just so I can comment on it. 

I did see the commercial about the female coach.  I didn't pick up on the part about her being a lesbian, but I wasn't paying that much attention.  I did wonder why, if women are equal to men, that its considered such a big deal when women do a typically male job.  That certainly is a double message.  It also further undermines the notion of women's sports.  If women can do anything a man can do when the glass ceiling is removed, why do we need women's sports?     
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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2020, 02:52:19 PM »
The halftime show revealed that much of American entertainment is cleavage and crack addicted.
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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2020, 03:25:40 PM »
I watched Dr. Who during the halftime show (and the 3rd quarter), returning to the SB when Dr. Who had saved the day again.
Of course, this episode included a gay couple who were "engaged."   :(
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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2020, 03:26:02 PM »
I expected nothing less when I found out who the performers were.  They've both made a living off of sexualizing their bodies for profit.

I don't hold it against either of them.  It's the culture that feeds it.  But I find some of the comments here to hit around the same places I find myself.  I have 3 daughters.  I want them to flourish in the world and be happy.  I don't see either becoming a boy or a boy toy, as Pastor Speckhard wisely said, to be conducive to that.  So I will continue to encourage them to be feminine, young women who have something to offer the world besides their sexualization and their de-sexualization.  They can be perfectly feminine without either flaunting their bodies for the enjoyment of men or trying to become men because they reject the great gift God gave them in their womanhood.
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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2020, 03:51:16 PM »
So…
Can we find a way for boys and men to be heroes, to be glorified, to receive respect, to be role models, without being violent or  “athletic”, without having the ability to play a rather mindless game for millions and millions of dollars, possibly Incurring along the way traumatic brain injuries?
Can the boy or man who might rather read a book, solve a math problem, or study a foreign language than watch three hours of slightly controlled violence do that without having his manhood or patriotism questioned?
There is more that one might consider immoral about the Super Bowl then the halftime show.
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2020, 03:53:59 PM »

I have mixed feelings about the discussion so far. I recorded the game on my DVR and mainly watched it for the commercials - many were great - and skipped the half time show. What little I saw fast forwarding through it confirmed what most are saying about it. I agree with the assessment of promoting becoming a boy toy as an admirable aspiration for young women. Having the girls singing admiring to the very scantily clad singers was an especially degrading touch.


It is with the woman coach and attendant commercial that I somewhat disagree with some of the comments here. The commercial, as I recall, did not touch on or make a point of her sexual orientation. Some of the online news/information/opinion sites made it a point of her orientation. The commercial pointed to her long standing love of the game of football, interest in being involved in the game, and status as the first woman to be in a coaching position for the Super Bowl.


I am not a big fan of football but I understand that some, both men and women, are. Some will want to be involved in the game on the back yard, amateur, collegiate, or professional level. Why not? And if a woman has the interest and puts in the effort to acquire the knowledge, experience, and skill to coach the game on the professional level, what is wrong with that? Yes, that has not in the past been a typical career aspiration for women, but that has been true of many careers that have become open to women. Even though this particular individual happens to identify as lesbian, what difference does that make? Could not a "womanly" woman have similar career aspirations and achievements? Would she have to "become a man" or become manlike to be a successful coach?


So yes, the half time show was distressing for the reasons given. But I don't see the first woman coach for a Super Bowl team being that concerning. Also, her dress seemed practical for the work she was doing. I hope we are past the day when in order to be feminine or womanly a woman needs to dress, a la Donna Reed, in pearls, a chiffon dress and heals to dust the house or dust mop the floors.
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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2020, 05:28:22 PM »
I watched the beginning of the halftime show, but it was so over-the-top sexually explicit that I walked out of the room.  From the Hustler pole dancing to the crotch-grabbing to the skimpy/racy outfits to the repeated pelvic thrusts, to the shaking of the dairy aires, it was just too much.  But what I failed to see and what was caught later was the so-called "crucifix pose" on the stripper pole.  In Esquire the author writes: "The moment at which Jennifer Lopez hit a perfect crucifix pose on the very top of a pole, held up only by her legendary thighs and strong work ethic, was the moment at which I knew I was watching the greatest Super Bowl Halftime Show of all time...."

If this is a glorification of women, I fail to see it.  After the intensity of the #metoo movement one would have thought that encouraging such public displays of sensuality and sexuality would be toned down a bit. We were exploiting women for sex, after all, right? J. Lo said: "So, for me, it's an opportunity to really bring people together in a moment of celebration, in joy, love, in unity and happiness. That's what I feel that we're going to provide. It really is about love and unity and celebrating the potential in every single person that's inside of each one of us for all the beautiful things we are."  But the so-called "love and unity" works only for those whose sexual morals and sense of decency know no bounds....
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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2020, 05:34:23 PM »
I did not see the half-time show last night, but I looked at snippets this morning after returning from a meeting where both men and women commented on it, some calling it lewd.   Apparently on the morning shows viewers overwhelming denounced the performances.  I'll admit that I was surprised by the reaction.  But the reason that I was surprised is not because I found the show in good taste, rather I was surprised that people didn't see this coming.   

-  We have several local networks that produce two news programs each night.  The male newscasters wear appropriate on-air clothing such as a suit and tie.  The women wear tight dresses, often low cut and/or quite short. 

-  I can only speak for this area of the country, but I am amazed when I drive past a local high school in warmer weather.  Girls barely cover themselves. (And yet the onus is on the hormone-driven young boys to treat the girls with respect.)   In our Wayne schools parents were told that they cannot put in a dress code for girls as it takes away their freedom of choice of clothes (they have one for boys). 

-  In the workplace women often dress inappropriately.  At my former firm a notice had to go out imposing a dress code of sorts.  Television programs - good grief, in family viewing time programs become close to x-rated. 

I'm truly not a prude.  But I'm a woman who worked in an industry that was predominantly male when I started.  One way that I (and others of my generation) gained validation in our work was to look the part.  We dressed as professionals - mostly wearing suits.  We worked hard to be accepted and, yes, wardrobe was a piece of this.  A discussion I've had with women in my age bracket lately is how we helped ease the entry of younger women into areas of the workforce that had been predominantly men and they are tossing away all we worked for by using their sex appeal. 

Again, I'm not a prude but just look around you - look at young girls, look at women in the news, look at women in the workplace, watch a few programs from 8-10.  If you do I think you'll find that these women last night weren't edgy in their performance -- they're just going with the flow.

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Re: Halftime Show
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2020, 05:44:37 PM »
Since I can't get the Packers on my television, the only professional football game I watched this year was the super bowl.  I enjoyed the game and since I was rooting for the Chiefs I particularly enjoyed the fourth quarter.  I was impressed with Patrick Mahomes.  He made mistakes and overcame them to win.  He showed humility and support for his team in interviews after the game.  It's refreshing to see these qualities in a young and very talented athlete.  It's a shame that the game was marred by the sleazy half time show.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2020, 06:13:32 PM »
Enjoyed National Anthem. Great game. Loved seeing KC win and the coach's achievement after so many years. (Press even celebrated Reid's marriage after the game.) We turned off halftime.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2020, 06:45:45 PM »
We wanted the Chiefs, so our home was happy with the outcome.  Chiefs because the 49ers crushed the Packers and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Sometimes, and this is one, I realize how completely out of synch I am with many of you.  At my church and school, the halftime show was viewed as an enormously positive Latina tour de force, with the capstone being the moment when the song was about being an American and the double-sided flag, US and Puerto Rico, was carried around the stage.  The whole show was done at a pace that seemed to me faster than the pace of the game itself, with a lot of people up there dancing.  Blurry to me as an old guy.  Some of us in New York, it should be stated, know which actual block Jenny is from in the Bronx.

As far as the female coach, I for one was not aware she was a lesbian, didn't hear it mentioned, and it seemed from what was said that she was hired because she was a good football coach. 

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2020, 06:46:46 PM »
So…
Can we find a way for boys and men to be heroes, to be glorified, to receive respect, to be role models, without being violent or  “athletic”, without having the ability to play a rather mindless game for millions and millions of dollars, possibly Incurring along the way traumatic brain injuries?
Can the boy or man who might rather read a book, solve a math problem, or study a foreign language than watch three hours of slightly controlled violence do that without having his manhood or patriotism questioned?
There is more that one might consider immoral about the Super Bowl then the halftime show.

I agree.  Classics, literature, music, art, science, mathematics,  poetry, and last but mot least theology are as important to manhood as sports.  Mentoring by emotionally and spiritually mature men.  And training in the proper social skills neede to interact with women in a healthy way.  Maybe a good project for the Church.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2020, 06:54:37 PM »
I wonder how many people realized that Shakira is married to a football player who has won multiple trophies.
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