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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2007, 02:53:40 AM »
Pastor McCain writes (re activities at the Orlando Assembly) :
I think when they did this last time they just shot themselves in the foot and probably caused undecided delegates to vote their position down.

I comment:
You were not there and your assessment is flat-out wrong.


Well, Charles, I was there.  I spoke with voting members.  His assessement is not flat-out wrong.

But we've had this conversation before....

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2007, 02:59:41 AM »
Monday, August 6?  Rather ominous for those with long (62 years) recollections...

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2007, 08:44:47 AM »
Monday, August 6?  Rather ominous for those with long (62 years) recollections...

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2007, 10:03:28 AM »
Pastor McCain writes (re activities at the Orlando Assembly) :
I think when they did this last time they just shot themselves in the foot and probably caused undecided delegates to vote their position down.

I comment:
You were not there and your assessment is flat-out wrong.


Well, Charles, I was there.  I spoke with voting members.  His assessement is not flat-out wrong.

But we've had this conversation before....

Pax, Steven+

And I, too, was there, and I agree with Lou and Steven.
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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2007, 01:04:54 PM »
I was watching the live stream and watched as the camera panned the voting delegates several times during the "silent protest" -- the looks on the faces were quite revealing, to be sure.

Such protests may be a matter of conscience for some, and if so, well, there you go, but if such things are done with the thought that they will win a hearing for the position being advocated, come now people, we all know the tendency of all Lutherans is to be polite, and when people engage in rude behavior and ignore the kindly pastor at the chairman's microphone, well, that just doesn't play well with your average Lutheran delegate to a church convention.

All of which is to say...I agree with Richard who agrees with Lou and Steve, who agreed with me....or something like that.  :D

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2007, 01:28:04 PM »
Pastor McCain writes:
I was watching the live stream and watched as the camera panned the voting delegates several times during the "silent protest" -- the looks on the faces were quite revealing, to be sure.

I comment:
Revealing of what? You are claiming a skill at wizardry that would make a magna cum laude graduate of Hogwarts blush. You can understand precisely what is being "revealed" by the faces of people you have never met, far away from the actual scene and its full panoply of sounds and sights? When are they going to build a television show around you?

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2007, 01:30:26 PM »
Well, Charles, I was there.  I spoke with voting members.  His assessement is not flat-out wrong.

But we've had this conversation before....
Well, Steven, I was there. I spoke with voting members and with demonstrators. Some reported that the demonstation produced negative responses and votes among the undecideds, others said that it accomplished what they intended -- it put faces on the people being affected by the votes and swayed people the other way.

He may not have been flat-out wrong; but he wasn't flat-out right either.
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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2007, 01:32:35 PM »
I comment:
Revealing of what? You are claiming a skill at wizardry that would make a magna cum laude graduate of Hogwarts blush. You can understand precisely what is being "revealed" by the faces of people you have never met, far away from the actual scene and its full panoply of sounds and sights? When are they going to build a television show around you?

Chuckle.  You did notice that he seems to have agreement from others who were also there which would mean that his degree from Hogwarts is well-earned (I wonder what type of broomstick he flies).  I watched it live, too, and greatly enjoyed the witty comeback by Bp. Hanson re: his 6 kids and ignoring bad behavior.  Given that that line provoked laughter and some applause, one doesn't really need a crystal ball to figure out that at least some in the convention were put-off by the bad behavior of the rainbow folks.

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2007, 02:11:22 PM »
Pastor McCain writes:
I was watching the live stream and watched as the camera panned the voting delegates several times during the "silent protest" -- the looks on the faces were quite revealing, to be sure.

I comment:
Revealing of what? You are claiming a skill at wizardry that would make a magna cum laude graduate of Hogwarts blush. You can understand precisely what is being "revealed" by the faces of people you have never met, far away from the actual scene and its full panoply of sounds and sights? When are they going to build a television show around you?
Charles, as a reporter you know that facial expressions reveal a lot to the onlooker. You know for a fact how important reading faces can be, in political debates, in trials, in business deals, in counseling, in everything. That's why people who don't want to reveal anything work on their poker faces. Paul said what he thought from seeing the faces. You disagree with his conclusions. Most people who were every bit as "there" as you were seem to disagree with you and agree with Paul. But why the rage against Paul? Paul never said he could understand "precisely", you put that word into his mouth to make him look bad. And in his original post bringing it up, he began with "I think..." which is mopre than you did in your response to him. The quoted post above was 100% ad hominem and added nothing to the conversation. I'm only making a point of it because I'm new to this moderating thing and wanted an example to use for my plea to everyone: As a matter of policy, just ignore the people you don't like. We want people feeling welcome as first-time posters here.   

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2007, 03:12:47 PM »
I'm only making a point of it because I'm new to this moderating thing and wanted an example to use for my plea to everyone: As a matter of policy, just ignore the people you don't like. We want people feeling welcome as first-time posters here.   

     Well put Pastor.  May I be the first to say "Hail Peter, esteemed moderator.   Long live the new king"

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2007, 03:30:10 PM »
Hiroshima. Enola Gay. Captain Paul Tibbetts.  ?

Colonel Paul Tibbets.  One "t."  No relation.

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2007, 03:40:53 PM »
I'm only making a point of it because I'm new to this moderating thing and wanted an example to use for my plea to everyone: As a matter of policy, just ignore the people you don't like. We want people feeling welcome as first-time posters here.   

     Well put Pastor.  May I be the first to say "Hail Peter, esteemed moderator.   Long live the new king"

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Isn't the first part of that: "The king is dead..."?

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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #27 on: July 27, 2007, 03:43:03 PM »
I'm only making a point of it because I'm new to this moderating thing and wanted an example to use for my plea to everyone: As a matter of policy, just ignore the people you don't like. We want people feeling welcome as first-time posters here.   

     Well put Pastor.  May I be the first to say "Hail Peter, esteemed moderator.   Long live the new king"

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Isn't the first part of that: "The king is dead..."?

Mark 5.39b.
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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2007, 03:47:29 PM »
     Well put Pastor.  May I be the first to say "Hail Peter, esteemed moderator.   Long live the new king"
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Re: Welcome to Chicago
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2007, 03:50:12 PM »
I'm only making a point of it because I'm new to this moderating thing and wanted an example to use for my plea to everyone: As a matter of policy, just ignore the people you don't like. We want people feeling welcome as first-time posters here.   

     Well put Pastor.  May I be the first to say "Hail Peter, esteemed moderator.   Long live the new king"

Regards,

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Isn't the first part of that: "The king is dead..."?

Mark 5.39b.

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