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« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2017, 12:56:25 PM »
Institutional loyalty can be a dangerous thing especially in a fledgling denomination with fewer and fewer persons who bear the name Lutheran.  Sometimes it can be hard for us to imagine or even think that God can work outside of such things but he can and does.

"Fledgling" usually describes something or someone who is young and inexperience or underdeveloped.  I don't think that would describe the LCMS.  Although our numbers are down from the peak years back a couple or more decades ago, we still seem to be a significant presence among other church bodies, here and abroad. 
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« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2017, 12:58:49 PM »
Institutional loyalty can be a dangerous thing especially in a fledgling denomination with fewer and fewer persons who bear the name Lutheran.  Sometimes it can be hard for us to imagine or even think that God can work outside of such things but he can and does.

"Fledgling" usually describes something or someone who is young and inexperience or underdeveloped.  I don't think that would describe the LCMS.  Although our numbers are down from the peak years back a couple or more decades ago, we still seem to be a significant presence among other church bodies, here and abroad.
I noticed that too, but thought Scott probably meant "struggling" when he typed "fledgling." I make that kind of mistake a lot when I'm typing along quickly.

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Re: I don't understand? Concordia Portland asked to be independent?
« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2017, 01:13:44 PM »
It would, in that era, not have been "graded", I don't think, as to its top-shelfness.  But it had that mojo.

The goal was that students, who were viewed as potentially going into the ordained ministry, be allowed, encouraged and in a sense given no other option than to become able critical thinkers.  It was in pretty much every regard what The Classical Educational model attempts today.

I think this is a key distinction. The "mojo" we want does not necessarily coincide with what gets good grades from U.S. News and World Reports rankings. If it did, we would simply use the schools as high up on those lists as we could. Valpo is, in terms of being graded on its top-shelfness, probably a better school today by far than it was when O.P. Kretzmann was president. But it had way more mojo back then. Now it has really nice facilities, well-regarded programs, etc. but the spirit that made it what it was merely haunts the place rather than animating it still.

The mojo doesn't necessarily coincide, but when it's full mojo including (which doesn't get talked about as much) the recruiting end of things, the rankings will go up.  In the back then day, the students who came into "the system" were arguably (and I would make that argument) better prepared and better selected - often by their pastor, often by the family who would send their highest end children (as opposed to the middle ages nobility who would send the dumbest child into the clergy just to keep the peace) - for academic and pastoral success.  Nobody is going to have an objective measurement for that, but I would contend that it's part of the mojo.  Because in the highest ranked colleges/universities, the self-select is toward the "keep out the non-performer" end of the spectrum.  Indeed, only super-performers are eligible.

So does the pastor or the family leadership say to Son #1 who's banging out those straight A's in high school - you'd make a wonderful pastor?  Or do they say, "Buddy, you're going to make us all proud - and maybe even rich."

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Peter, I'd argue that you can't have that mojo you want if you don't have a highly selective place or one that is seen in that realm.  If you have one highly selective, you can run a separate place with the mojo you want that isn't as selective.  But, if you don't have the selective place, those students go elsewhere to the detriment of the entire project.  (Is this a moral or Christian thing? No.  "The Gentiles Lord it over them...", but it is true.  The high flyer can learn that lesson when they hit the parish, or they can attempt to opt out of learning it entirely by trying to become a professor.)

As far as what parents are saying. I can tell you what I tell my sons.  There is no other job like it.  Once you do it, you can't do anything else because it gets into your bones.  But if you think you could do something else, you might try that.  The other parents I've discussed this with would be more negative.       

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« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2017, 01:24:30 PM »
Institutional loyalty can be a dangerous thing especially in a fledgling denomination with fewer and fewer persons who bear the name Lutheran.  Sometimes it can be hard for us to imagine or even think that God can work outside of such things but he can and does.

"Fledgling" usually describes something or someone who is young and inexperience or underdeveloped.  I don't think that would describe the LCMS.  Although our numbers are down from the peak years back a couple or more decades ago, we still seem to be a significant presence among other church bodies, here and abroad.
I noticed that too, but thought Scott probably meant "struggling" when he typed "fledgling." I make that kind of mistake a lot when I'm typing along quickly.

Yes, my bad.  Thanks for your grace in understanding. :o

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« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2017, 01:45:53 PM »
Institutional loyalty can be a dangerous thing especially in a fledgling denomination with fewer and fewer persons who bear the name Lutheran.  Sometimes it can be hard for us to imagine or even think that God can work outside of such things but he can and does.

"Fledgling" usually describes something or someone who is young and inexperience or underdeveloped.  I don't think that would describe the LCMS.  Although our numbers are down from the peak years back a couple or more decades ago, we still seem to be a significant presence among other church bodies, here and abroad.

In what way is the LCMS a significant presence among other church bodies?  Where is this true?

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« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2017, 02:07:02 PM »
I was wondering that, too. It seems to me that one of the distinctions of the LCMS is that it keeps itself apart from other church bodies.
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« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2017, 02:41:58 PM »
I perceive that the Anglican Communion of North America holds the LCMS with some regard.  Attended a luncheon/discussion on youth ministry hosted by the Coptic Orthodox Church and there was Baptist, Episcopalian, Methodist, ACNA clergy folk and me in attendance.  The ACNA pastor was quite pleased to meet me and had very nice and positive things to say about the dialogues that are held periodically throughout the year.  I was happy to meet him too.  We shared much in common. 

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« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2017, 03:25:20 PM »
Once theology is one subject among many but not an over-arching framework for understanding the other subjects (art, chemistry, etc.) the basic purpose for a university will get supplied by an unspoken dogma of some other kind. Universities will exist for the purpose of job training and become strictly utilitarian from an economic standpoint. Or they will exist to transmit culture without the "cult" that is that the root of culture (as Neuhaus so often pointed out). Or they will exist with a sort of "art for art's sake, knowledge for knowledge's sake" purpose that ends up in the worship of creature rather than Creator. Or they will exist for the sake of "social progress" with nobody daring to ask what exactly is the goal whereby we determine whether something counts as progress or regression.

The anti-Christian pressure Dr. Becker talks about comes from the fields related to sociology (including most majors that end in "studies"), which do not see themselves as one subject among many but as the organizing principle of all the subjects, like theology used to be....

The modern situation calls for universities with their original mission, which in our context means universities willing to be counter-cultural and in some ways opposed to the sacred cows of mainstream academia. Lutheran universities could do and be that, but not if they're too ashamed of the Gospel. A recent Valpo mailing re-interpreted their entire motto "In Thy Light, We See Light" to assure the prospective student that the student's understanding of the truth, whatever that may be, is the light Valpo wants to go by. Crazy. Sad.

Valpo is a fine secular university. One can learn about Lutheranism there, and engineering, and music, just like a pretty decent public university. They have Lutheran campus pastors, just like many public universities. What Valpo lacks is Lutheranism as the organizing principle behind its raison d' etre, the thing that gives context, relevance, and order to all the subjects taught. Like at any public university, sociology has replaced theology at Valpo....

And Valpo is not much different, I would guess. Any random prof of this or that subject could easily deny this or that article of the Augsburg Confession under cover of academic freedom. But if they publicly and forcefully denied the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declared Islam a false and destructive religion, or promoted the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum, all of which would fall well within the bounds of Lutheran teaching, well, they might survive with their job but they would certainly stir up a hornet's nest. Because Valpo is more concerned about its secular academic reputation, which is good but which depends upon the approval of the priests of sociology, than it is about the Augsburg Confession being presented as true. Which is a bummer, because it wouldn't have to be that way.   

I hope now that Peter's daughter will be a student on our campus he will spend more time here than he obviously has, given how misguided his perception of the institution is. I have no idea what mailing he received, but it doesn't match any I have seen from our marketing people. All of the materials I just now picked up from their office stress Valpo's church-relatedness. For example, one piece begins with the following quote from O. P. Kretzmann: "Essentially a University is a voluntary association of free men and women in a community which is dedicated to a twofold task: the search for truth and the transmission of truth, free and unbroken, to those who are born later in time" (1940 Inaugural Address). After an explicitly Lutheran faith-based introduction by our current president, the document quotes the Valpo motto in both English and Latin: In Thy Light, We See Light; In Luce Tua Videmus Lucem. The document immediately proceeds to state this: "Scholarship, freedom, faith, and service--the ideals of Valparaiso University's mission--are embodied in our motto. The University's Lutheran heritage and character are reflected in these ideals. As Valparaiso University plans thoughtfully, these ideals provide the foundation and guidance necessary to determine the path most appropriate for the future success of our students, our alumni, and our community as a whole. Valparaiso University will continue to look forward, but our hearts always will remain true to our Lutheran tradition. It is upon that tradition that we will build and strengthen to ensure the sustainability of a vibrant University community. This is our future in Thy light."

Notice: "Thy light," not "my light" nor "your light" nor "the world's light."

What Peter would hope for in a church-related university is at odds with a classic Lutheran model that goes back to Wittenberg. Unlike Peter's model, which is really a Christomonistic, theology-of-glory Reformed vision--one that fits with the ethos of Calvin College or Wheaton--Valpo's model is a paradoxical one, which takes seriously important distinctions and tensions, e.g., between law/creation and gospel, between Creator and creature, between the infinite and the finite, between the freedom of the gospel and free inquiry, between faith and service, between faith and learning, between Christ and culture (dialectically related but neither identified with one another nor separated from each other), between the kingdom of the left hand of God and the kingdom of the right hand of God, between confessional commitment and ecumenical openness. Whereas Peter's model would seek something like a "Christian mathematics," "Christian astronomy," "Christian chemistry," "Christian physics," and so on, a Lutheran model operates out of a paradoxical vision (ala Bob Benne's book) that is grounded in justification by grace through faith alone in Christ alone and that recognizes and explores the above distinctions and tensions. It seeks truth in God's creation on its own terms and doesn't try to "Christianize" any of the secular disciplines. To one who holds to a Reformed vision of higher education (or a Roman-Catholic one), similar to Peter's apparent model, a place like Valpo looks "secular," but it is really simul seculari et sacramenti, simultaneously "secular" and "incarnational/sacramental." Valpo's Lutheran model fits with the theology of the cross, not with Peter's Reformed model, which is a version of a theology of glory.

It is clear to me that Peter hasn't spent much time on our campus. I doubt he's been in a theology class here since his student days. As far as I know, he's never met with our theology department or had any extensive discussions with either of our campus pastors or with the director of church relations or with anyone else in the large church-relations staff. I don't recall ever meeting Peter at one of our bi-annual Stole and Scroll events. I wonder if he even reads Valpo's "The Cresset," which regularly publishes articles that clearly demonstrate concern for relating the academy and the Christian church/faith and that often provide a Lutheran perspective on culture. The Easter 2017 issue prints my own professorial lecture on Schlink's vision of "Christ in the University," a vision that is clearly at odds with Peter's. He might benefit from a year-long participation in our Lilly Fellow colloquium, which meets nearly every Mon during the academic year and is led by Mark Schwehn and Dorothy Bass. (I participated in it this past year, since I served as a mentor to one of our fellows, a post-doc systematic theologian from Notre Dame. The other post-docs come from Baylor, University of Virginia, and Notre Dame.) Come spend a full week with us, Peter, or a couple of weeks. If you can't do that, then read Bob Benne's chapter on Valpo in his book, "Quality with Soul: How Six Premier Colleges and Universities Keep Faith with Their Religious Traditions" (Eerdmans, 2001). Or read Schwehn's "Exiles from Eden: Religion and the Academic Vocation in America" (Oxford, 1993). If anything, Valpo's ties to the Lutheran churches have deepened since the appearance of Benne's and Schwehn's books. Worth noting also is the fact that for the past decade all new tenure-track faculty must participate in a week-long theological seminar at our Cambridge University study center in Cambridge, England. This retreat has been led by Schwehn himself. (I participated in it with him in 2005; my cohort continues to get together for food and fellowship and Christian reflection, as we did last week). More recently, George Heider and Fred Niedner have led it. George is in my cohort. Fred recently wrote a marvelous essay for all new faculty that sets forth the Valpo vision of faith and culture in paradox. That essay centers on the lowly incarnation of Christ and the theology of the cross (and what that means for the limitations of human knowledge and the need for reverent humility across all university disciplines).

Peter, have you visited with any of Valpo's church-relations staff in their new offices (paid for by a multi-million-dollar gift from an ELCA pastor and his wife, both alumni)? Have you attended Stole and Scroll? The Liturgical Institute? How about any of the recent symposia in Christ College, our honors college? Have you recently attended any one of the eleven weekly chapel services in the Chapel of the Resurrection? What secular university has a chapel the size of ours, right smack in the center of campus? Or one that offers as much Christian programming as ours? Or that places important Christian symbols in prominent places across the campus? Or one that requires all undergraduates to take a course on the Christian tradition? Or that requires all students majoring in the arts and sciences to take an additional upper-division theology course? One that has the level and quality of Christian art housed in its on-campus art museum (as that which appears in our Brauer Museum)? Or that favors the music of Bach and other Christian composers in its many musical offerings? BTW, who do you think has largely funded the new buildings on campus over the past 20 years? Lutherans! With names such as "Christopher" and "Duesenberg" and "Helge."

Peter's vision is too narrow, too Reformed, and too blind to the myriad ways in which Christ and culture impact each other paradoxically, dialectically, creatively on Valpo's campus. Instead of projecting his own prejudices and speculative feelings and hunches onto Valpo and thereby creating a Valpo of his own imagination, he should spend more time on the actual campus, interacting with faculty and staff and administrators. I hope that during his daughter's time here, he'll at least stop by my office for a face-to-face chat now and then. I'd love to show him around the place. (Yes, I know he graduated from VU, but he clearly doesn't know what's really presently happening.)

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P.S. Peter's observations about sociology also do not capture the reality on the ground here. When he comes to visit me, I hope he'll also go down the hall to have a chat with the head of our sociology dept. She's a practicing member of our ELCA congregation. Her husband teaches Hebrew and OT in the theo dept. The other full-time sociology prof here is very active in our Roman-Catholic campus ministry at St. T's. Just the other day she recommended that one of her criminal-justice majors minor in theology. These faculty members stress the deep connection between Christian faith and vocation/service that Valpo rightly highlights.
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« Reply #98 on: June 01, 2017, 04:08:24 PM »
The LCMS is the lead partner in the International Lutheran Conference.  It's easy to see this as an inter-Lutheran partnership without a ton of pop, because many of the partners are small to tiny synods or denominations around the world.  However, there is a global sweep to their existence and to the partnership.  Secondly, there are other Lutheran bodies which are headed in a direction other than the LWF, or which have kind of a dual direction in their dialogs, one with the LWF and one with the LCMS.  (Madagascar/Mekane Yesus might be two of those).  In addition, among conservative liturgical Protestant groupings, the LCMS is seen as a partner.  In these latter cases, there is almost never a chance for actual church fellowship because of the way the LCMS views altar/pulpit fellowship as the end of a long, long process. 

In the overall scheme of life, these may seem like smallish potatoes, but they are representative of a grouping of churches that seeks to be conservative in Biblical hermeneutics, conservative in moral values, and sacramental in worship.

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« Reply #99 on: June 01, 2017, 04:49:38 PM »
Bishop Benke makes good points, as usual.  If the LCMS could find ways to bring itself into collegial dialogue in larger circles, that would be something.  But it seems to have a hard time being in places where it cannot control and or dominate.
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« Reply #101 on: June 01, 2017, 05:38:27 PM »
Once theology is one subject among many but not an over-arching framework for understanding the other subjects (art, chemistry, etc.) the basic purpose for a university will get supplied by an unspoken dogma of some other kind. Universities will exist for the purpose of job training and become strictly utilitarian from an economic standpoint. Or they will exist to transmit culture without the "cult" that is that the root of culture (as Neuhaus so often pointed out). Or they will exist with a sort of "art for art's sake, knowledge for knowledge's sake" purpose that ends up in the worship of creature rather than Creator. Or they will exist for the sake of "social progress" with nobody daring to ask what exactly is the goal whereby we determine whether something counts as progress or regression.

The anti-Christian pressure Dr. Becker talks about comes from the fields related to sociology (including most majors that end in "studies"), which do not see themselves as one subject among many but as the organizing principle of all the subjects, like theology used to be....

The modern situation calls for universities with their original mission, which in our context means universities willing to be counter-cultural and in some ways opposed to the sacred cows of mainstream academia. Lutheran universities could do and be that, but not if they're too ashamed of the Gospel. A recent Valpo mailing re-interpreted their entire motto "In Thy Light, We See Light" to assure the prospective student that the student's understanding of the truth, whatever that may be, is the light Valpo wants to go by. Crazy. Sad.

Valpo is a fine secular university. One can learn about Lutheranism there, and engineering, and music, just like a pretty decent public university. They have Lutheran campus pastors, just like many public universities. What Valpo lacks is Lutheranism as the organizing principle behind its raison d' etre, the thing that gives context, relevance, and order to all the subjects taught. Like at any public university, sociology has replaced theology at Valpo....

And Valpo is not much different, I would guess. Any random prof of this or that subject could easily deny this or that article of the Augsburg Confession under cover of academic freedom. But if they publicly and forcefully denied the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declared Islam a false and destructive religion, or promoted the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum, all of which would fall well within the bounds of Lutheran teaching, well, they might survive with their job but they would certainly stir up a hornet's nest. Because Valpo is more concerned about its secular academic reputation, which is good but which depends upon the approval of the priests of sociology, than it is about the Augsburg Confession being presented as true. Which is a bummer, because it wouldn't have to be that way.   

I hope now that Peter's daughter will be a student on our campus he will spend more time here than he obviously has, given how misguided his perception of the institution is. I have no idea what mailing he received, but it doesn't match any I have seen from our marketing people. All of the materials I just now picked up from their office stress Valpo's church-relatedness. For example, one piece begins with the following quote from O. P. Kretzmann: "Essentially a University is a voluntary association of free men and women in a community which is dedicated to a twofold task: the search for truth and the transmission of truth, free and unbroken, to those who are born later in time" (1940 Inaugural Address). After an explicitly Lutheran faith-based introduction by our current president, the document quotes the Valpo motto in both English and Latin: In Thy Light, We See Light; In Luce Tua Videmus Lucem. The document immediately proceeds to state this: "Scholarship, freedom, faith, and service--the ideals of Valparaiso University's mission--are embodied in our motto. The University's Lutheran heritage and character are reflected in these ideals. As Valparaiso University plans thoughtfully, these ideals provide the foundation and guidance necessary to determine the path most appropriate for the future success of our students, our alumni, and our community as a whole. Valparaiso University will continue to look forward, but our hearts always will remain true to our Lutheran tradition. It is upon that tradition that we will build and strengthen to ensure the sustainability of a vibrant University community. This is our future in Thy light."

Notice: "Thy light," not "my light" nor "your light" nor "the world's light."

What Peter would hope for in a church-related university is at odds with a classic Lutheran model that goes back to Wittenberg. Unlike Peter's model, which is really a Christomonistic, theology-of-glory Reformed vision--one that fits with the ethos of Calvin College or Wheaton--Valpo's model is a paradoxical one, which takes seriously important distinctions and tensions, e.g., between law/creation and gospel, between Creator and creature, between the infinite and the finite, between the freedom of the gospel and free inquiry, between faith and service, between faith and learning, between Christ and culture (dialectically related but neither identified with one another nor separated from each other), between the kingdom of the left hand of God and the kingdom of the right hand of God, between confessional commitment and ecumenical openness. Whereas Peter's model would seek something like a "Christian mathematics," "Christian astronomy," "Christian chemistry," "Christian physics," and so on, a Lutheran model operates out of a paradoxical vision (ala Bob Benne's book) that is grounded in justification by grace through faith alone in Christ alone and that recognizes and explores the above distinctions and tensions. It seeks truth in God's creation on its own terms and doesn't try to "Christianize" any of the secular disciplines. To one who holds to a Reformed vision of higher education (or a Roman-Catholic one), similar to Peter's apparent model, a place like Valpo looks "secular," but it is really simul seculari et sacramenti, simultaneously "secular" and "incarnational/sacramental." Valpo's Lutheran model fits with the theology of the cross, not with Peter's Reformed model, which is a version of a theology of glory.

It is clear to me that Peter hasn't spent much time on our campus. I doubt he's been in a theology class here since his student days. As far as I know, he's never met with our theology department or had any extensive discussions with either of our campus pastors or with the director of church relations or with anyone else in the large church-relations staff. I don't recall ever meeting Peter at one of our bi-annual Stole and Scroll events. I wonder if he even reads Valpo's "The Cresset," which regularly publishes articles that clearly demonstrate concern for relating the academy and the Christian church/faith and that often provide a Lutheran perspective on culture. The Easter 2017 issue prints my own professorial lecture on Schlink's vision of "Christ in the University," a vision that is clearly at odds with Peter's. He might benefit from a year-long participation in our Lilly Fellow colloquium, which meets nearly every Mon during the academic year and is led by Mark Schwehn and Dorothy Bass. (I participated in it this past year, since I served as a mentor to one of our fellows, a post-doc systematic theologian from Notre Dame. The other post-docs come from Baylor, University of Virginia, and Notre Dame.) Come spend a full week with us, Peter, or a couple of weeks. If you can't do that, then read Bob Benne's chapter on Valpo in his book, "Quality with Soul: How Six Premier Colleges and Universities Keep Faith with Their Religious Traditions" (Eerdmans, 2001). Or read Schwehn's "Exiles from Eden: Religion and the Academic Vocation in America" (Oxford, 1993). If anything, Valpo's ties to the Lutheran churches have deepened since the appearance of Benne's and Schwehn's books. Worth noting also is the fact that for the past decade all new tenure-track faculty must participate in a week-long theological seminar at our Cambridge University study center in Cambridge, England. This retreat has been led by Schwehn himself. (I participated in it with him in 2005; my cohort continues to get together for food and fellowship and Christian reflection, as we did last week). More recently, George Heider and Fred Niedner have led it. George is in my cohort. Fred recently wrote a marvelous essay for all new faculty that sets forth the Valpo vision of faith and culture in paradox. That essay centers on the lowly incarnation of Christ and the theology of the cross (and what that means for the limitations of human knowledge and the need for reverent humility across all university disciplines).

Peter, have you visited with any of Valpo's church-relations staff in their new offices (paid for by a multi-million-dollar gift from an ELCA pastor and his wife, both alumni)? Have you attended Stole and Scroll? The Liturgical Institute? How about any of the recent symposia in Christ College, our honors college? Have you recently attended any one of the eleven weekly chapel services in the Chapel of the Resurrection? What secular university has a chapel the size of ours, right smack in the center of campus? Or one that offers as much Christian programming as ours? Or that places important Christian symbols in prominent places across the campus? Or one that requires all undergraduates to take a course on the Christian tradition? Or that requires all students majoring in the arts and sciences to take an additional upper-division theology course? One that has the level and quality of Christian art housed in its on-campus art museum (as that which appears in our Brauer Museum)? Or that favors the music of Bach and other Christian composers in its many musical offerings? BTW, who do you think has largely funded the new buildings on campus over the past 20 years? Lutherans! With names such as "Christopher" and "Duesenberg" and "Helge."

Peter's vision is too narrow, too Reformed, and too blind to the myriad ways in which Christ and culture impact each other paradoxically, dialectically, creatively on Valpo's campus. Instead of projecting his own prejudices and speculative feelings and hunches onto Valpo and thereby creating a Valpo of his own imagination, he should spend more time on the actual campus, interacting with faculty and staff and administrators. I hope that during his daughter's time here, he'll at least stop by my office for a face-to-face chat now and then. I'd love to show him around the place. (Yes, I know he graduated from VU, but he clearly doesn't know what's really presently happening.)

Matt Becker
P.S. Peter's observations about sociology also do not capture the reality on the ground here. When he comes to visit me, I hope he'll also go down the hall to have a chat with the head of our sociology dept. She's a practicing member of our ELCA congregation. Her husband teaches Hebrew and OT in the theo dept. The other full-time sociology prof here is very active in our Roman-Catholic campus ministry at St. T's. Just the other day she recommended that one of her criminal-justice majors minor in theology. These faculty members stress the deep connection between Christian faith and vocation/service that Valpo rightly highlights.
Okay, I will regard the above post as in invitation to share the various mailings and correspondences I have in order to demonstrate the truth of my claims, though in some cases I'll need to get permission.

Dr. Becker's guesses about me, my contact with Valpo, and my observations about mailings are nearly all provably wrong. His is the company line and the only perspective he has of Valpo. 

As for a few specific facts, I have in fact been to Christ College symposia in recent years. I have been to a couple of weekday chapel services (both embarrassingly bad) and some Sunday services there in the past several years. I do read the mailings, sometimes even including the Cresset when it looks interesting. I have read Benne's book and even corresponded a little with him on these matters. I think perhaps Dr. Becker ought to contact him to see if his view of Valpo has remained as positive as it was, or even if Dr. Becker is understanding Benne's points. I attended the theological conference organized by John Nunes just before he left, and had regular one-on-one meetings with him for the few years he was there, at which we talked many times about matters related to Valpo.

I very much doubt the marketing people have run the mailings I'm talking about past Dr. Becker (the text of which does not match what he posted upstream) and would not find it surprising that the mailings they do run past him meet his approval. If he saw the particular mailing I'm talking about (and will share soon) before it was mailed, he ought to be deeply ashamed of himself.

When Valpo announced they would be getting a female ELCA chaplain, I nominated someone who would have been really good. I was friends one of the people on the selection committee. I know how much the sociological, feminist, lgbtq-related identity politics agenda trumped the theological in that decision.

The hypothetical but practical illustration of my point upstream is one Dr. Becker does not and cannot address: Any random prof of this or that subject could easily deny this or that article of the Augsburg Confession under cover of academic freedom. But if they publicly and forcefully denied the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declared Islam a false and destructive religion, or promoted the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum, all of which would fall well within the bounds of Lutheran teaching, well, they might survive with their job but they would certainly stir up a hornet's nest. I'd be very interested to hear his take on that point.

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« Reply #102 on: June 01, 2017, 07:10:34 PM »

When Valpo announced they would be getting a female ELCA chaplain, I nominated someone who would have been really good. I was friends one of the people on the selection committee. I know how much the sociological, feminist, lgbtq-related identity politics agenda trumped the theological in that decision.

The hypothetical but practical illustration of my point upstream is one Dr. Becker does not and cannot address: Any random prof of this or that subject could easily deny this or that article of the Augsburg Confession under cover of academic freedom. But if they publicly and forcefully denied the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declared Islam a false and destructive religion, or promoted the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum, all of which would fall well within the bounds of Lutheran teaching, well, they might survive with their job but they would certainly stir up a hornet's nest. I'd be very interested to hear his take on that point.

I served on the call committee that called Pr. Cox. None of what you describe was ever a part of our deliberations. She is an excellent law-promise theologian and evangelical-catholic pastor. She is particularly well-liked by students, not for any "identity-political" reasons but because she's a faithful, caring Lutheran-Christian pastor. We're blessed to have her minister among us.

I know of no faculty member at VU who has or would publicly deny "this or that article of the AC under cover of academic freedom," but then VU is not a Christian congregation and most faculty members stick to their areas of scholarly expertise. Having served on the tenure and promotion committee at the university, I know it would be difficult for a faculty member to receive tenure if he or she spoke out publicly and regularly against the university's core Christian values. I know of at least one faculty member who was recently denied promotion because he could not reconcile his own academic work and teaching with some of those core values. In any case, VU is an academic community that is grounded in the Lutheran tradition of scholarship, freedom, and faith. Free inquiry is absolutely essential for such a university, as is the fostering of mutual respect and civility.

As to the rest of your hypothetical scenario, I can't imagine why a faculty member at VU would feel the need to publicly and forcefully deny the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declare Islam a false and destructive religion, or promote what you describe as "the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum." The one so denying, declaring, and promoting would likely be acting contrary to central values of our academic community and would come in for strong criticism on those grounds. There are compelling theological reasons, too, for why such actions would be criticized. The vocation of professor is different from that of an ideological propagandist. Such a denial and declaration and promotion would certainly be possible for any faculty member to make at VU, but I suspect most all of my colleagues recognize that their vocation of professor does not include such behavior.

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« Reply #103 on: June 01, 2017, 07:29:14 PM »
One mailing of the kind I charitably assume Dr. Becker never okayed before it was mailed was from the past winter and aimed at prospective students. It is a very nice sort of 12"x12" coffee table book about the whole Valpo experience. In the section explaining that it is a Lutheran university it says:

Valpo is an independent Lutheran University, where students from a variety of religious traditions come together to learn from each other. Join the conversation. Exchange beliefs. Expand your understanding. Share the common pursuit of truth, not one common truth.

The Lutheran faith is part of Valpo and here for you. Additionally, the diversity of backgrounds, beliefs, and passions here will inform and inspire you in the search for YOUR truth.
 

Borrowing from another discussion, if you replaced the word Lutheran with the word Floopy in that statement it would make the exact same amount of sense. Heck, you could replace Lutheran with Hindu and nothing about this description of Valpo would change. The Hindu faith is there for you, and it, among other things, will inspire your search for your truth. Same as at Purdue.

This particular mailing was 52 glossy pages, a full color, photo-laden introduction to the Valpo experience and featured zero, yes, zero images of the Chapel of the Resurrection. How is that even possible? It is the tallest, biggest, and really the only architecturally interesting building on campus. To take 52 pages of photos of VU and not include the chapel is an amazing logistical feat. To do so in a mailing meant to share the Valpo experience with prospective freshmen, well, okay, that's a gutsy call, sort of like making a tourism brochure of Green Bay, Wisconsin and forgetting to mention Lambeau Field. But okay, a university brochure doesn't have to feature a picture of a chapel. But then the claim that the Christian faith is the animating purpose for the community rings somewhat hollow.

My sister has corresponded with President Heckler concerning this very brochure, and received a lengthy and thoughtful reply from him explaining the decision not to feature the chapel in the brochure. But his point to her, like Dr. Heckler's response to me, seemed to assume that her concerns were based on limited contact with the place, as though she just saw this one brochure and shot off an angry letter. That isn't at all the case. He invited her, as Dr. Becker invited me, to come spend a day there, as though going there would disabuse us of the unfortunate and wrong impressions we've gotten of the place. But in neither case is that response on point or even true. We're both there quite often.

I've shown up to chapel services on a whim when I was in town. They were sad. Last year when Valpo hosted, as they do every year, the national Lutheran grades school basketball tournament, they knew two things. One, they knew virtually all if not all of the schools were LCMS. Two, with 64 teams (32 boys', 32 girls' teams), that's about 600 or so mostly LCMS 8th graders plus lots of parents and coaches. So they knew they'd have a full chapel for the opening of the tournament on Friday and for church on Sunday. What did they do? For the opening they held a sort of informal pep rally in the chapel, and on Sunday they held an ELCA-sponsored service at the chapel. Smooth.

To his credit, President Heckler seems very committed to maintaining the Lutheran ethos of the place, and he is very responsive to concerns. And there is a lot of good about Valpo. When I filled in for John Nunes and led a session of his Christ College seniors class I met several extremely sharp, dedicated Christian folks, some of them seminary bound. I think Christ College is an excellent program. In honor of my daughter I went to the bookstore and bought a VU decal for my car. I'm not ashamed of the place. I simply think it could be so much more and so much better if it weren't ashamed to be what it ought to be.   
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Re: I don't understand? Concordia Portland asked to be independent?
« Reply #104 on: June 01, 2017, 07:51:44 PM »

When Valpo announced they would be getting a female ELCA chaplain, I nominated someone who would have been really good. I was friends one of the people on the selection committee. I know how much the sociological, feminist, lgbtq-related identity politics agenda trumped the theological in that decision.

The hypothetical but practical illustration of my point upstream is one Dr. Becker does not and cannot address: Any random prof of this or that subject could easily deny this or that article of the Augsburg Confession under cover of academic freedom. But if they publicly and forcefully denied the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declared Islam a false and destructive religion, or promoted the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum, all of which would fall well within the bounds of Lutheran teaching, well, they might survive with their job but they would certainly stir up a hornet's nest. I'd be very interested to hear his take on that point.

I served on the call committee that called Pr. Cox. None of what you describe was ever a part of our deliberations. She is an excellent law-promise theologian and evangelical-catholic pastor. She is particularly well-liked by students, not for any "identity-political" reasons but because she's a faithful, caring Lutheran-Christian pastor. We're blessed to have her minister among us.

I know of no faculty member at VU who has or would publicly deny "this or that article of the AC under cover of academic freedom," but then VU is not a Christian congregation and most faculty members stick to their areas of scholarly expertise. Having served on the tenure and promotion committee at the university, I know it would be difficult for a faculty member to receive tenure if he or she spoke out publicly and regularly against the university's core Christian values. I know of at least one faculty member who was recently denied promotion because he could not reconcile his own academic work and teaching with some of those core values. In any case, VU is an academic community that is grounded in the Lutheran tradition of scholarship, freedom, and faith. Free inquiry is absolutely essential for such a university, as is the fostering of mutual respect and civility.

As to the rest of your hypothetical scenario, I can't imagine why a faculty member at VU would feel the need to publicly and forcefully deny the validity of gay marriage or the benevolence of #blacklivesmatter, declare Islam a false and destructive religion, or promote what you describe as "the idea of male/female as a binary per Genesis and not a spectrum." The one so denying, declaring, and promoting would likely be acting contrary to central values of our academic community and would come in for strong criticism on those grounds. There are compelling theological reasons, too, for why such actions would be criticized. The vocation of professor is different from that of an ideological propagandist. Such a denial and declaration and promotion would certainly be possible for any faculty member to make at VU, but I suspect most all of my colleagues recognize that their vocation of professor does not include such behavior.

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I wasn't talking about Pr. Cox, I was talking about the first woman chaplain they had. And yes, positions relative to feminism, homosexuality, etc. were indeed a part of the deliberations. Simply the fact that the money for the position was donated on condition that the ELCA chaplain be female showed the identity politics in place. And there was no chance they were going to end up with a female chaplain not on board with the progressive agenda.

Several teaching faculty signed an online petition objecting to bringing a Chick-Fil-A to Valpo. They were coming out publicly and forcefully in favor of gay marriage, since their only objection to Chick-Fil-A was that the owner of the chain had donated to conservative efforts against gay marriage. Why did they feel that need to sign such a petition? Why do you not accuse them of acting contrary to the central values of the academic community and speaking on matters outside their area of expertise? Yet you assume someone doing the same thing on the other side of that issue would be out of line. A particular revisionist view of gay marriage is a central value of academic life, but a traditionally Christian view is not? Support for #blacklivesmatter, despite its stated goal of undermining the traditional family, is not contrary to the central values of academic life, but coming out against that is not? Simply affirming that male/female is binary is somehow outside the purpose and values of a unversity, but insisting that it is not a binary but rather a spectrum is somehow within and part of that purpose and those values? This is what I mean by sociology replacing theology as the over-arching principle. Whether one teaches math or music, favoring the lgbtq agenda is central to academic life; opposing it is anamthema or otherwise inappropriate because it has nothing to do with math or music. I get that such is the case in academia generally. It doesn't have to be that way at a private school like Valpo. But it is, and that is a shame.


"The vocation of professor is different from that of an ideological propagandist." Yet professors of many fields propagandize for gay marriage, for a spectrum rather than binary understanding of male/female, for the truth of Islam, and for #BlackLivesMatter all the time. Apparently progressivism is non-ideological and not propaganda, but disagreeing with progressivism is ideological propagandizing. That's because progressive sociology is a religion, and all religions condemn their heresies.
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