Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth

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Norman Teigen

I would have voted for that New Yorker Al Smith, back in the 1920s.  Can't recall the year. 
Norman Teigen

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Quote from: Norman Teigen on February 17, 2016, 04:55:58 PM
I would have voted for that New Yorker Al Smith, back in the 1920s.  Can't recall the year.

1928. (Gov. Al Smith lost to Herbert Hoover. But it opened the way for Franklin Roosevelt to be elected as Governor of New York.)
Better is a handfull of quiet, than two hands full of toil and a chasing after the wind.  Eccl. 4:6
  "God gave us family so we wouldn't have to fight with strangers." CNN pundit.

George Erdner


Rev Geminn

Quote from: peter_speckhard on February 17, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke
Why can't NY come up with an even remotely palatable candidate? What's up with you guys?

I think it has to do with what your homeboy Ted Cruz had to say about New Yorkers.  You know, all that stuff about "New York Values".;D

peter_speckhard

Quote from: Rev Geminn on February 17, 2016, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: peter_speckhard on February 17, 2016, 02:49:37 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke
Why can't NY come up with an even remotely palatable candidate? What's up with you guys?

I think it has to do with what your homeboy Ted Cruz had to say about New Yorkers.  You know, all that stuff about "New York Values".;D
Probably. New Yorkers must really, really value horrible candidates, especially to have imported another one from Illinios/Arkansas/Washington.

Richard Johnson

Quote from: JEdwards on February 17, 2016, 04:38:31 PM
Quote from: Richard Johnson on February 17, 2016, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: James_Gale on February 17, 2016, 11:48:25 AM

Nor me.

Nor me. But then I'm a Democrat.  ;)

Seriously, though, given who my party is putting forward, I desperately want to be able to consider voting for the Republican candidate. Trump would not make that possible.

I feel the same way.  Kasich is the only candidate I could support with any enthusiasm.  Of course, my saying so has probably doomed his candidacy.

Jon

You probably give yourself too much credit . . .
The Rev. Richard O. Johnson, STS

Eileen Smith

Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke

In the immortal words of Linus Van Pelt:  We're doomed   :)

James_Gale

Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke


It's not just presidential candidates.


Until last week, Staten Island was the only borough not represented on the Supreme Court:


Justice Scalia grew up in Queens.
Justice Ginsberg grew up in Brooklyn.
Justice Sotomayor is from the Bronx.
And Justice Kagan is from Manhattan. 


We all are well aware that New Jersey is nowhere close to New York (according to New Yorkers, at least).  But Justice Alito is from New Jersey.

Voelker

Quote from: James_Gale on February 17, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke


It's not just presidential candidates.


Until last week, Staten Island was the only borough not represented on the Supreme Court:


Justice Scalia grew up in Queens.
Justice Ginsberg grew up in Brooklyn.
Justice Sotomayor is from the Bronx.
And Justice Kagan is from Manhattan. 


We all are well aware that New Jersey is nowhere close to New York (according to New Yorkers, at least).  But Justice Alito is from New Jersey.
We're LONG past due breaking the Eastern Stranglehold on American life, as well as dealing with the oversized power of a few population centers. The best thing would probably to spin off NY (and perhaps a chunk more of that budding megalopolis), Chicago, and the Bay Area as city states, letting the rest of the country get on with its business.

Rev Geminn

Quote from: WJV on February 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: James_Gale on February 17, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke


It's not just presidential candidates.


Until last week, Staten Island was the only borough not represented on the Supreme Court:


Justice Scalia grew up in Queens.
Justice Ginsberg grew up in Brooklyn.
Justice Sotomayor is from the Bronx.
And Justice Kagan is from Manhattan. 


We all are well aware that New Jersey is nowhere close to New York (according to New Yorkers, at least).  But Justice Alito is from New Jersey.
We're LONG past due breaking the Eastern Stranglehold on American life, as well as dealing with the oversized power of a few population centers. The best thing would probably to spin off NY (and perhaps a chunk more of that budding megalopolis), Chicago, and the Bay Area as city states, letting the rest of the country get on with its business.

You forgot about Los Angeles and I think we'd also like to have New Orleans.  Just remember, though, all of your young people are moving our way so be careful what you wish for.  You see we take in all kinds of people, from the horribly corrupt to salt of the earth Midwesterners. 

Voelker

Quote from: Rev Geminn on February 17, 2016, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: WJV on February 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: James_Gale on February 17, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke


It's not just presidential candidates.


Until last week, Staten Island was the only borough not represented on the Supreme Court:


Justice Scalia grew up in Queens.
Justice Ginsberg grew up in Brooklyn.
Justice Sotomayor is from the Bronx.
And Justice Kagan is from Manhattan. 


We all are well aware that New Jersey is nowhere close to New York (according to New Yorkers, at least).  But Justice Alito is from New Jersey.
We're LONG past due breaking the Eastern Stranglehold on American life, as well as dealing with the oversized power of a few population centers. The best thing would probably to spin off NY (and perhaps a chunk more of that budding megalopolis), Chicago, and the Bay Area as city states, letting the rest of the country get on with its business.

You forgot about Los Angeles and I think we'd also like to have New Orleans.  Just remember, though, all of your young people are moving our way so be careful what you wish for.  You see we take in all kinds of people, from the horribly corrupt to salt of the earth Midwesterners.
That's the way it bounces. Just remember that Cain was the founder of cities, and there won't be one good city until the New Jerusalem makes its appearance.  :D

Richard Johnson

I personally find it offensive that Harvard Law graduates so badly outnumber Yale Law graduates on the Court. No wonder we're in such dire straits.
The Rev. Richard O. Johnson, STS

Rev Geminn

Quote from: WJV on February 17, 2016, 11:41:55 PM
Quote from: Rev Geminn on February 17, 2016, 11:03:05 PM
Quote from: WJV on February 17, 2016, 10:30:39 PM
Quote from: James_Gale on February 17, 2016, 09:06:26 PM
Quote from: Dave Benke on February 17, 2016, 02:18:09 PM
Again, we in New York are watching
Bernie Sanders of Brooklyn
Hillary Clinton of Chappaqua, Westchester County
Donald Trump of Trump Tower, Manhattan
and possibly
Michael Bloomberg of Wherever He Chooses to Live on the East Side of Manhattan

Among whom the entire country might be choosing its next President.

Dave Benke


It's not just presidential candidates.


Until last week, Staten Island was the only borough not represented on the Supreme Court:


Justice Scalia grew up in Queens.
Justice Ginsberg grew up in Brooklyn.
Justice Sotomayor is from the Bronx.
And Justice Kagan is from Manhattan. 


We all are well aware that New Jersey is nowhere close to New York (according to New Yorkers, at least).  But Justice Alito is from New Jersey.
We're LONG past due breaking the Eastern Stranglehold on American life, as well as dealing with the oversized power of a few population centers. The best thing would probably to spin off NY (and perhaps a chunk more of that budding megalopolis), Chicago, and the Bay Area as city states, letting the rest of the country get on with its business.

You forgot about Los Angeles and I think we'd also like to have New Orleans.  Just remember, though, all of your young people are moving our way so be careful what you wish for.  You see we take in all kinds of people, from the horribly corrupt to salt of the earth Midwesterners.
That's the way it bounces. Just remember that Cain was the founder of cities, and there won't be one good city until the New Jerusalem makes its appearance.  :D

Ha!  That memory tortures me everyday BUT remember that before being the founder of cities Cain was a rule following farmer.  From farmer to city dweller.  The grandchildren of the farmer are now city dwellers.:-[

Brian Stoffregen

Quote from: Rev Geminn on February 18, 2016, 10:26:57 AM
Ha!  That memory tortures me everyday BUT remember that before being the founder of cities Cain was a rule following farmer.  From farmer to city dweller.  The grandchildren of the farmer are now city dwellers. :-[


What rule was he following? Up to that point in the story, God has commended, "Be fruitful and multiply" and "You can eat from all the trees, except one." There are no reasons given why God accepted Abel's sacrifice and not Cain's. Rules about sacrifices won't be given until Mount Sinai.
I flunked retirement. Serving as a part-time interim in Ferndale, WA.

Rev Geminn

Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on February 18, 2016, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: Rev Geminn on February 18, 2016, 10:26:57 AM
Ha!  That memory tortures me everyday BUT remember that before being the founder of cities Cain was a rule following farmer.  From farmer to city dweller.  The grandchildren of the farmer are now city dwellers. :-[


What rule was he following? Up to that point in the story, God has commended, "Be fruitful and multiply" and "You can eat from all the trees, except one." There are no reasons given why God accepted Abel's sacrifice and not Cain's. Rules about sacrifices won't be given until Mount Sinai.

At the end of Genesis 3 God curses Adam to work the ground i.e. farming.  It's been understood that Cain accepts this as his lot in life whereas Abel doesn't by becoming a shepherd.  That's all. 

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