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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #570 on: February 11, 2016, 04:32:47 PM »
Donald Trump is running an unconventional campaign.

1. He does not use PAC money.

2. He does not spend hardly any money on TV ads.

3. He believes in  holding large rallies

4. He makes use of his Twitter account

5. He does not have a written speech, but speaks off the cuff.

Concerning #5:   He tells it like is and therefore is not politically
correct in his language and personal putdowns of other candidates.

6. He gets plenty of free advertising by making himself available to
TV reporters from major networks and cable stations.

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #571 on: February 12, 2016, 09:44:33 AM »
I think another reason why Trump is doing well is that the media covers him extensively because he seems to fit their image of the crazy Republican.  It's similar to the Palin Derangement Syndrome that caused people to nearly foam at the mouth whenever Sarah Palin appeared somewhere.  That's why it struck me as so appropriate when she endorsed Trump.

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #572 on: February 12, 2016, 10:06:42 AM »
I think another reason why Trump is doing well is that the media covers him extensively because he seems to fit their image of the crazy Republican.  It's similar to the Palin Derangement Syndrome that caused people to nearly foam at the mouth whenever Sarah Palin appeared somewhere.  That's why it struck me as so appropriate when she endorsed Trump.

I agree that he gets a lot of help from the media.  But, the media wouldn't be doing it except there is a market for it.  Given Trump's poll numbers, that market apparently includes lots of folks who fit the image.
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #573 on: February 12, 2016, 10:32:57 AM »
James S. Rustad writes:
I think another reason why Trump is doing well is that the media covers him extensively because he seems to fit their image of the crazy Republican.
I comment:
Back when I was a reporter, a general rule was: If someone is speaking nonsense and garbage and no one is listening, you have no real need to cover them just because the nonsense and garbage may be interesting or a certain kind of "news." But if someone speaks nonsense and garbage and people are listening and following, then you have an obligation to report what is happening.

James S. Rustad writes:
It's similar to the Palin Derangement Syndrome that caused people to nearly foam at the mouth whenever Sarah Palin appeared somewhere.  That's why it struck me as so appropriate when she endorsed Trump.
I comment:
No, the one with mouth-foam was (and is) Ms. Palin.
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #574 on: February 12, 2016, 10:53:33 AM »
Don't forget, all opposition to Donald Trump is reasoned and sensible.  All opposition to Hillary Clinton is a coalition between the vast right wing conspiracy and the war on women.

(By the way, I count my own opposition to Donald Trump as being reasoned and sensible.)
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #575 on: February 12, 2016, 12:02:06 PM »
I was watching some Youtube videos, and came across this oldie. It interviews Obama voters after the 2008 election, and asks them some questions about the election. At one point, they show Sarah Palin stating, accurately and correctly, that there are some places in Alaska where you can see Russia. Then they showed Tina Fey's parody from SNL where Tina said (in character, imitating Palin) that she could see Russia from her house. Every one of the voters questioned claimed that it was Sarah Palin who said she could see Alaska from her house. When asked which candidate had to withdraw from running for President years earlier for committing plagiarism, they all said "Sarah Palin", even though the correct answer was Joe Biden. The video is full of such examples. And yes, it was prepared by conservatives.


But it illustrates an excellent point. The mainstream media, where most of the great unwashed get their information, is terribly slanted in favor of the politically liberal point-of-view. It goes beyond simply being doctrinaire. Any candidate who looks like he has a good chance of defeating the liberal Democrat candidate is going to have his reputation smeared through selective reporting. The media won't state falsehoods. They'll simply report the things that make the conservative look bad, and ignore everything else.


There has been a similar smear campaign going on against Ted Cruz. Apparently an actress hired to be in one of his commercials did some softcore adult movies. Not porn movies. Just what are commonly called "skin flicks". But the headlines depict her as a "porn star" to make it look like Cruz was personally responsible for not fully vetting every actor and actress who appeared in his commercials.


Trump might not be the best choice to be the next President. But given how hard the political establishment is fighting against him, on both sides, it has to make me think that maybe the establishment is simply afraid of him.

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #576 on: February 12, 2016, 12:35:34 PM »
It's not just conservatives that get slanted.   I remember a few years ago an Internet piece slamming President Obama.   It showed a clip of him very frustrated and storming off after, I think, a news conference,   kicking open a door and in general acting inappropriately for a president.  The Web item was exposing Pres. Obama's bad behavior and suggesting that because of thei liberal bias you wouldn't see that on network TV.  As a matter of fact I had already seen the clip on network TV, on Jay Leno.  He used to do a bit were he would show videoshopped clips of celebrities.
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #577 on: February 12, 2016, 09:02:46 PM »
James S. Rustad writes:
It's similar to the Palin Derangement Syndrome that caused people to nearly foam at the mouth whenever Sarah Palin appeared somewhere.  That's why it struck me as so appropriate when she endorsed Trump.
I comment:
No, the one with mouth-foam was (and is) Ms. Palin.

As I was saying....

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #578 on: February 12, 2016, 09:31:46 PM »
Apparently an actress hired to be in one of his commercials did some softcore adult movies. Not porn movies. Just what are commonly called "skin flicks".

I'd love to know the distinction . . . illustrations not required.
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #579 on: February 13, 2016, 08:54:04 AM »
Apparently an actress hired to be in one of his commercials did some softcore adult movies. Not porn movies. Just what are commonly called "skin flicks".

I'd love to know the distinction . . . illustrations not required.

I think it has something to do with whether the implied intimacy was "simulated".
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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #580 on: February 13, 2016, 09:25:21 AM »
Apparently an actress hired to be in one of his commercials did some softcore adult movies. Not porn movies. Just what are commonly called "skin flicks".

I'd love to know the distinction . . . illustrations not required.

"Softcore" is simulating possible sex acts, or just being naked. Real porn is actual engagement in sexual acts, with full penetration. It's like the difference between a violent movie where death is simulated with special effects, like all John Wayne movies, and actual "snuff" flicks.

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #581 on: February 17, 2016, 09:55:53 AM »
Donald Trump is not a polished politician but a populist who has strike
a responsive chord in the hearts of many Americans.  He raised the issues
of illegal immigrants, jobs sent to Mexico and China, and our miserable
foreign policy.  He is the only candidate who takes no money from PACs
and lobbyists.

Trump may not be the next President of the United States, but he has
changed the way to campaign for the nation's highest office in the 21st century.
He is not politically correct in his views, but he does tell it like it is.
The Republican establishment is having bad dreams that Bush dynasty is over

Bottom Line:  If Trump wins the South Carolina and Nevada primaries,
then he may finally be taken as a serious candidate..

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #582 on: February 17, 2016, 10:37:31 AM »


Bottom Line:  If Trump wins the South Carolina and Nevada primaries,
then he may finally be taken as a serious candidate..
Not by me.

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #583 on: February 17, 2016, 10:46:46 AM »


Bottom Line:  If Trump wins the South Carolina and Nevada primaries,
then he may finally be taken as a serious candidate..
Not by me.
Nor by me.  I will not vote for him under any circumstance.  I suspect that I may not be alone in that.  The big question is not whether the 30-35% of Trump supporters among the G.O.P. electorate would vote for another candidate should Trump not be the nominee, but how many of the remaining 65-70% G.O.P.  voters who are not Trump fans will simply choose not to cast a ballot for president.  Will the number of supposedly "new" voters that Trump is allegedly bringing in fill the gap of those of us who will not vote for a 4-time bankruptcy, self-promoter, questionable "conservative" if he is the G.O.P. nominee? 

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Re: Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth
« Reply #584 on: February 17, 2016, 11:10:00 AM »


Bottom Line:  If Trump wins the South Carolina and Nevada primaries,
then he may finally be taken as a serious candidate..
Not by me.


Nor by me.


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