Donald Trump: The Man And The Myth

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mariemeyer

Quote from: Pr. Don Kirchner on January 04, 2016, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: mariemeyer on January 04, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
the old Adam is not made of straw...His power in like that of an old tyrant... 

I still do not know what laws are directed toward a Christian audience. 

And there's your straw man again, Mrs. Meyer. And he's rapidly becoming old.

But now he's got a new straw man who's already old.   ::)

Or is the new old man the same as the old man? Won't get fooled again, Mrs. Meyer.  :o

???

Back to Donald Trump and the mystery of why he has captured the attention of an incredible number of Americans.

Marie 

LutherMan



Donald_Kirchner

Quote from: mariemeyer on January 04, 2016, 01:36:56 PM
Quote from: Pr. Don Kirchner on January 04, 2016, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: mariemeyer on January 04, 2016, 12:46:33 PM
the old Adam is not made of straw...His power in like that of an old tyrant... 

I still do not know what laws are directed toward a Christian audience. 

And there's your straw man again, Mrs. Meyer. And he's rapidly becoming old.

But now he's got a new straw man who's already old.   ::)

Or is the new old man the same as the old man? Won't get fooled again, Mrs. Meyer.  :o

???

Back to Donald Trump and the mystery of why he has captured the attention of an incredible number of Americans.

Marie

Excellent idea!
Don Kirchner

"Heaven's OK, but it's not the end of the world." Jeff Gibbs


Michael Slusser

Fr. Michael Slusser
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George Erdner

Quote from: LutherMan on January 19, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Sarah Palin Endorses Donald Trump, Rallying Conservatives

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/20/us/politics/donald-trump-sarah-palin.html?_r=0

Those who never liked Trump in the first place still won't like him. Those who already liked him will continue to like him. But, a few fence-sitters might have their minds made up by this turn of events.


Terry W Culler

I seriously doubt there are 10 people in the country whose votes will be determined by Sarah Palin.  She had her 15 minutes and any respect I might have had for her went away when she resigned as governor so she could be a celebrity--someone that everyone knows (quoting Roxie in Chicago)
"No particular Church has ... a right to existence, except as it believes itself the most perfect from of Christianity, the form which of right, should and will be universal."
Charles Porterfield Krauth

James_Gale

Quote from: Pr. Terry Culler on January 19, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
I seriously doubt there are 10 people in the country whose votes will be determined by Sarah Palin.  She had her 15 minutes and any respect I might have had for her went away when she resigned as governor so she could be a celebrity--someone that everyone knows (quoting Roxie in Chicago)


I think that the endorsement might be of limited but real value to Trump.  Cruz in the past has said glowing things about Palin and gave her credit for helping him gain election to the Senate.  Once word came out that Palin was likely to endorse Trump, Cruz went after her a bit.  I'll bet that Trump uses this whole package to try to chip away some of Cruz's Iowa support.  Moving just a few percent of the GOP caucus goers might well matter in terms of the post-caucus media spin.


After Iowa, I don't think that the Palin endorsement will matter.  Trump will either be done.  Or breaking away from the pack.

LutherMan

Cruz suffered two huge blows in IA yesterday, Palin's endorsement of Trump, and this from Gov. Branstad:

Quote"Ted Cruz is ahead right now. What we're trying to do is educate the people in the state of Iowa. He is the biggest opponent of renewable fuels. He actually introduced a bill in 2013 to immediately eliminate the Renewable Fuel Standard. He's heavily financed by Big Oil. So we think once Iowans realize that fact, they might find other things attractive but he could be very damaging to our state," Branstad said.

    Branstad added that Cruz "hasn't supported renewable fuels, and I think it would be a big mistake for Iowa to support him."

    Asked if he would want to see Cruz defeated, Branstad said "yes."

bookpastor/Erma Wolf

Quote from: LutherMan on January 20, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
Cruz suffered two huge blows in IA yesterday, Palin's endorsement of Trump, and this from Gov. Branstad:

Quote"Ted Cruz is ahead right now. What we're trying to do is educate the people in the state of Iowa. He is the biggest opponent of renewable fuels. He actually introduced a bill in 2013 to immediately eliminate the Renewable Fuel Standard. He's heavily financed by Big Oil. So we think once Iowans realize that fact, they might find other things attractive but he could be very damaging to our state," Branstad said.

    Branstad added that Cruz "hasn't supported renewable fuels, and I think it would be a big mistake for Iowa to support him."

    Asked if he would want to see Cruz defeated, Branstad said "yes."

As Sioux County, Iowa goes, so goes the Republican caucus. At least, that is the pattern.

And I haven't seen any Cruz lawn signs come down yet.

(Of course, they may be frozen into place!)   ;D
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LutherMan

I have heard that IA is a do or die state for Cruz...

Dave Benke

Quote from: bookpastor/Erma Wolf on January 20, 2016, 10:53:02 AM
Quote from: LutherMan on January 20, 2016, 10:08:39 AM
Cruz suffered two huge blows in IA yesterday, Palin's endorsement of Trump, and this from Gov. Branstad:

Quote"Ted Cruz is ahead right now. What we're trying to do is educate the people in the state of Iowa. He is the biggest opponent of renewable fuels. He actually introduced a bill in 2013 to immediately eliminate the Renewable Fuel Standard. He's heavily financed by Big Oil. So we think once Iowans realize that fact, they might find other things attractive but he could be very damaging to our state," Branstad said.

    Branstad added that Cruz "hasn't supported renewable fuels, and I think it would be a big mistake for Iowa to support him."

    Asked if he would want to see Cruz defeated, Branstad said "yes."

As Sioux County, Iowa goes, so goes the Republican caucus. At least, that is the pattern.

And I haven't seen any Cruz lawn signs come down yet.

(Of course, they may be frozen into place!)   ;D

Just to be clear, "renewable fuels" has something to do with corn?  Here in NYC we are of the belief that milk comes from a carton, not a cow.

Dave Benke
It's OK to Pray

aletheist

Quote from: LutherMan on January 20, 2016, 10:08:39 AMCruz suffered two huge blows in IA yesterday, Palin's endorsement of Trump, and this from Gov. Branstad:
They were blows, but I doubt that they will end up being "huge" (said in the much-imitated Trump way).  Palin will now be able to take some legitimate credit if Trump ends up winning Iowa; Cruz was on track to win it without her.  Gov. Branstad (and others) oppose Cruz mainly because they are (rightly) terrified of the possibility that someone could (finally) win Iowa without kowtowing to the ethanol lobby.
Jon Alan Schmidt, LCMS Layman

"We believe, teach and confess that by conserving the distinction between Law and Gospel as an especially glorious light
with great diligence in the Church, the Word of God is rightly divided according to the admonition of St. Paul." (FC Ep V.2)

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