Started by Dave Likeness, January 17, 2014, 04:38:18 PM
Quote from: Pilgrim on January 22, 2014, 11:39:50 AMQuote from: Dave Benke on January 22, 2014, 10:38:49 AMMust have been a light breeze into your face, or older clubs, because you should be striking that 8 iron about 145. Man up. Hit the 9. Dave BenkeTim, laughing, responds: I've seen pictures of you. You have more "core" and thus more "torque" than I! I followed Greg Norman's advice - take one more club and swing easy!
Quote from: Dave Benke on January 22, 2014, 10:38:49 AMMust have been a light breeze into your face, or older clubs, because you should be striking that 8 iron about 145. Man up. Hit the 9. Dave Benke
Quote from: DCharlton on January 22, 2014, 12:52:04 PMDoes anyone know the attrition rate among seminary graduates? How many who graduate from an ELCA seminary are on the ELCA roster after 10 years, 20 years and 30 years?My impression is that we lose a lot of pastors and AIMs, but its only an impression. I often wonder how much of the predicted shortage of pastors is the result of people dropping off of the roster due lack of a call or burnout. If a significant number or our seminary graduates drop out before they reach retirement, we need to ask why. Do we need more people to go to seminary, or do we need to retain more of those who graduate? What percentage of seminary graduates never receive a call or job in and ELCA congregation? Are we encouraging people to invest in a seminary education because there is a place for them, or because we need the money?I don't know the answer to those questions.
Quote from: Dave Likeness on January 25, 2014, 04:10:30 PMIn a article this month, Concordia Seminary St. Louis"operates on balanced budgets, is debt free, and hasa stable enrollment of over 600 students across allprograms."This is good news for the LCMS and its 6,000 parishesas this seminary continues to prepare pastors who canlead healthy, Gospel centered congregations.
Quote from: FrPeters on January 26, 2014, 08:39:03 AMBut... more than 200 of that 600 are off campus SMP students... And another 100 are off campus for vicarage... and about 250 are MDiv... so that balance leaves 150 in various other programs... with about 250 actually on campus... with a budget twice Ft. Wayne... and, by many estimations, a backlog of deferred maintenanceFt. Wayne also is debt free (example is the new Library which is pay as you go completion)... with far fewer SMP students and about the 250 MDiv (including vicars)...
Quote from: Dave Likeness on January 26, 2014, 12:47:48 PMAccording to the Association of Theological Schoolsthese are statistics as of December 2013 for theaccredited Lutheran Seminaries in America.St. Louis (LCMS) 644 Total Students/ 23 Full Time FacultyFt. Wayne LCMS 321/23St. Paul (ELCA) 806/41Philly (ELCA) 332/16Chicago (ELCA) 284/17Dubuque ELCA 172/8Gettysburg ELCA 159/13Columbus (ELCA 136/13Berkley (ELCA) 118/9
Quote from: Dave Likeness on January 26, 2014, 06:13:46 PMPastor Staneck, perhaps you could answera question. Is part of the financial turn-around at Concordia Sem St. Louis dueto reduction of full-time faculty to only 23?