Started by John Mundinger, August 20, 2013, 10:56:33 AM
Quote from: John Mundinger on August 20, 2013, 10:56:33 AMOne of the Montana pastors who also was part of the synod's delegation shares a daily devotion with his listserve. Today he reflected on the work of the Assembly. I think it is worth sharing here.Check out Ephesians 1:15-23. What a blessed gathering. We came together to do the work of Christ's church. We made decisions for the future. We chose new leaders. We listened and often there were those who saw things differently. We were drawn together in worship. We met new friends and old as we broke bread together. [b]We[/b] were Christ's body this past week. Again and again, we were reminded that as his body our calling was to embody the gospel of salvation given to us in Christ Jesus. In the one who was crucified and raised, in the one now seated at God's right hand in the heavenly places, God made unmistakable God's claim upon us; we are God's children now. So with the eyes of our hearts enlightened, we came together. Seeing clearly the free gift of grace God bestowed upon us in Christ, we did the work of Christ's body. As the Spirit animated us, we celebrated the inheritance we have in Christ. And with knees bowed to him, we rejoiced that Christ had chosen us as his disciples and witnesses.[/u] Bless your church, Lord Jesus, that the world might see in it your presence. Amen
Quote from: Coach-Rev on August 20, 2013, 12:57:32 PMCharles, do you think for a moment - just ONE moment! - that the decision was made in a cavalier or spontaneous fashion? Do you suppose that not a single day goes by where I do not wonder the very same things myself as the aforementioned pastor? Get over your pompous arrogance. You of all people here could stand for a little more humility and less presumption. p.s. rant on all you wish, but I will not respond to you again on this. You are not worthy of it, and you most definitely have not earned it.
Quote from: Coach-Rev on August 20, 2013, 11:38:16 AMThat is my main critique of the ELCA: Notice the frequent use of the word "we." That, coupled with the assumption that what "we" do is automatically the work of the Holy Spirit, or what God intended, or ? ? Is an egocentric power trip that stifles any real ongoing dialog with the "malcontents."
Quote from: Charles_Austin on August 22, 2013, 10:45:50 AMPrayer proceeded practically ever major vote, balloting, sometimes even on amendments to resolutions. Each session began with hymns and prayers. I don't know if the "prayer partner" plan was unique to this Assembly, but previous assemblies have always had an emphasis on prayer, daily celebration of Holy Communion, Bible study and other services, even outside the opening and closing prayers.
Quote from: Dave Likeness on August 22, 2013, 09:38:54 AMI just found out from someone who attendedthe Pittsburgh Assembly that there was anemphasis on prayer partners.Every voting delegate was paired with aprayer partner 5 weeks before the Assembly.Then in Pittsburgh they had the opportunity to pray together face to face. Before eachvote the pray team of the Assembly led allthose gathered in prayer.This person said that prayer was one of themain strengths of the Assembly. Did anyonewho attended have a similar reaction?
Quote from: Richard Johnson on August 22, 2013, 08:55:08 PMReally hard to be against prayer. Have to say, though, this all strikes me as a bit gimmicky. (Well, by "all" I really mean primarily the stopping to pray before every vote.) IMO, the assembly would be well-served to build prayer into the proceedings at regular intervals (you know, like maybe Terce, Sext, None ). That way the prayer might actually be focused on God, rather than on whatever issue we're about to vote on. And I have to say that on occasion the prayers did seem to anticipate what God was about to tell the assembly to do.At the Constituting Convention in 1987 (the last time I had the privilege of serving as a voting member!), one of the impressive things was that there was a chapel room set aside where Compline was prayed each night. Perhaps three or four dozen people were present each night. I thought it was one of the highlights of the convention.
Quote from: Paul L. Knudson on August 23, 2013, 12:48:54 PMDoes anyone know exactly what action was taken regarding the Means of Grace. Some have thought there was some action that might lead to seeing the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper more as a way of focusing on hospitality? This relates to whether or not baptism is expected to be or not be a prerequisite for receiving the Lord's Supper. It's important for clear understanding of the action taken to keep from making false statements.