Pastor Kliner writes:
That's why, Pr. Austin, Pr. Stoffregen's posts evoke such a reaction from me. It's not because he "simply and eloquently presents his points with patience..." but because he is so very far from the Faith. It's precisely because he "muses" on issues of critical importance and his "musing" is so very, very unChristian and unLutheran that I am tempted to tresort to breaking my silence.
I comment:
It is too bad that your faith would appear to be so weak or your temperament so fragile that you cannot contend with difficult discussion and speculation. But based on previous years of postings, I suppose I am not surprised.
Pastor Kliner writes:
But I am done arguing with both you and him, because in the end you are not really interested in real argument, discourse, or even inquiry. These pages are, for you, not really about fellowship, learning, or edification; you use these pages as your own personal universe that revolves around you, to prove that (like "cognito ergo sum") that you exist and somehow are important. This forum seems to exist as your own personal echo chambers, everyone else be damned.
I comment:
That is a pretty arrogant assumption. I get hammered if I suggest these pages exist just so some can whine and complain and air their dissatisfaction with how they can't get calls or how their bishop doesn't love them any more.
And your sense of the discussion dynamic is perverse and also arrogant. If I didn't care for anyone else's opinion, why would I take the time to try and correct them when they are wrong or praise them when they are right? I don't even insist that you agree with me.
And get off your overly-psychological high horse and inquisitional throne. Pastor Stoffregen and I are not the ones here who are issuing edicts of damnation.
"personal echo chambers"? Hoo-hah! Who echoes anything I say here? Nobody. You're just miffed because both Pastor Stoffregen and I refuse to go away and leave this field to .... well, pick your own category of people.