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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #60 on: May 19, 2012, 11:52:43 PM »
Are the Lutheran Brethren considered more "Haugean" than other Lutheran groups.  My wife's family is real big on the Lutheran Brethren and I know that family (all Norwegian immigrants from the Nordfjord area) was wooed into the Lutheran Brethren by some itinerant pastors in about 1920.

Brian J. Bergs.
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Yes, there's a whole lot more Haugean influence in the LB than in most other Lutheran denominations.  There's some in the Free Lutherans too, but not to quite the same extent.  The most overtly "Haugean" synod remaining in the USA is the Eielsen Synod.  Well, "remaining" -  I think there's one Eielsen congregation left.

If I'm not mistaken, I think the last Eielsen Synod congregation closed in 1997, though I think that there are still a couple of families that identify with it, if that counts as a "congregation."
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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #61 on: May 19, 2012, 11:56:24 PM »

Anyway, differences between the Synod congregations and Hauge congregations were very noticeable for some decades after the 1917 merger.  Looking through church yearbooks, you can see early "Synod" years where the pastor wore full vestments, often with a ruff.  Some years later, you see the vestments get simpler and simpler until it got to a point where many pastors were simply wearing suits.  The "low church" mentality was part of the Haugean DNA spreading even into formerly non-Haugean congregations.

I would argue that what you see in yearbooks doesn't necessarily reflect the use of vestments in parish practice.  In some cases it might, but as I mentioned in a previous post, if anything, the practices of the Hauge Synod were pretty much lost after 1917.  Of course, it's a complex issue, with a lot of "cross-breeding" between the different pieties. 
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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2012, 03:24:25 AM »
Are the Lutheran Brethren considered more "Haugean" than other Lutheran groups.  My wife's family is real big on the Lutheran Brethren and I know that family (all Norwegian immigrants from the Nordfjord area) was wooed into the Lutheran Brethren by some itinerant pastors in about 1920.

Brian J. Bergs.
Minneapolis, MN

Yes, there's a whole lot more Haugean influence in the LB than in most other Lutheran denominations.  There's some in the Free Lutherans too, but not to quite the same extent.  The most overtly "Haugean" synod remaining in the USA is the Eielsen Synod.  Well, "remaining" -  I think there's one Eielsen congregation left.

If I'm not mistaken, I think the last Eielsen Synod congregation closed in 1997, though I think that there are still a couple of families that identify with it, if that counts as a "congregation."

"Where 2 or 3 are gathered" being what it is, I'd count it as a congregation.

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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #63 on: May 20, 2012, 01:33:45 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, I think the last Eielsen Synod congregation closed in 1997, though I think that there are still a couple of families that identify with it, if that counts as a "congregation."

Apparently I need to consider restoring the Eielsen Synod to Pastor Zip's US Lutheran Links.  It's wikipedia page currently concludes with this added in 2009:

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Please note the Eielson Synod is still in existence with a minister ordained on May 10, 2008 by the presiding president of Bethania ELCA-Eielson Church. Martin Leroy Bystol was the active President of such ministry of the Eielsen Synod - faithful until his death and eternal rest w/ Jesus Christ - his Lord and Savior. Rev Orvin L. Bystol is an ordained minister and resides in Eau Claire, where the church is located also. (Bethania Evangelical Lutheran Church of America- Eielsen Synod Eau Claire WI)

Some may find this curious as the Synod had had no pastors for several years and the one remaining congregation that had been affiliated with it was describing itself as an "independent" Lutheran congregation.

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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #64 on: May 20, 2012, 09:44:43 PM »
Brian. I grew up in the congregation of which Fredrick Schiotz was a member for a time after the family moved from Chicago to N. Wisconsin.   I attended Northwestern Seminary (ULCA) to the dismay of some.  grabau

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Re: Question(s) for or about Norwegian Lutherans
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2012, 11:32:26 AM »
The Eilsen Synod official name was ELCA.  They signed off to accomodate the merger of the 3 in the '80s.  grabau