Started by Richard Johnson, April 18, 2006, 12:19:08 PM
QuotePeople on both sides believe that scriptures is authoritative for their interpretations.
QuoteDon, you are right; there will always be perfectly well-intentioned proposed changes that over time are labelled heresy or, more rarely, get incorporated into the Church's self-understanding. But they can't do both. That is what Charles wants to change-- as I understand it, he envisions a church in which mutually-exclusive doctrines coexist without causing division, where one congregation blesses homosexual behavior and another condemns it, and presumably people attend the congregation that affirms them while remaining in fellowship with the congregations that condemns them. Once that change is made, it is indeed lights out.
QuoteSo you think the Holy Spirit was no more at work in the writing of the Gospel of John than when you wrote your last sermon?
QuoteBy UU, do you mean the Unitarians? If so, do you really want to bring a non-Christian group into this discussion?
QuoteIf you are saying that the UU is more "liberal" theologically, you may be proving the point that Peter, Don, Eric and others have been pressing. After all, the Unitarians in this country came out of the congregationalist tradition. They ultimately applied contextualism and relativism to Scripture, and followed this process to what they viewed as its logical conclusion; namely, a rejection of orthodox Christianity and the faith reflected in its ecumenical creeds. Thus, if the Unitarians are what you would consider to be theologically "liberal," you seem to be equating liberalness with a rejection of orthodox Christianity. And your assertion that the ELCA is "moderate" means that the ELCA is "moderately" orthodox. (For a summary of what the Unitarians believe, take a look here: http://www.uua.org/aboutuua/principles.html.)Is that what you mean?
QuoteMy bluntly worded post (concerning why the Traditionalists will "lose," the sexuality wars and the "Revisionists," "win" said war,) was meant to get folks to take action and vote in assembly.
QuoteDrawing upon that comment, I'll note that the Arians also understood themselves to be (as you say, Mark) standing very much upon the Word and in the tradition of the Church....Zwingli understood himself to be standing in the Word ....