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Re: The thread for info on churches voting to change affiliation & all follow-up.
« Reply #10410 on: August 30, 2018, 04:53:34 PM »
Give it up, Brian. The bottom line is the bottom line as those who have condemned the ELCA  believe it to be. I could be in the church with people holding their views, but I do not see how they could be in the church with people holding mine.
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« Reply #10411 on: August 30, 2018, 07:38:07 PM »
The ELCA's official word limited sexual behaviors to "publicly accountable, lifelong, monogamous relationships." The official Vision and Expectations has pretty clear limits about "what goes" and "what does not go" in terms of our expectations for clergy.

As always, Brian, the problem is that the actions of the ELCA appear not to match the words of the ELCA.  The ELCA has documents that place clear limits sexual behaviors.  Then it invites two pastors who public reject those words to speak to its youth, raising the question of whether the ELCA really means what it says.

In a similar manner, the ELCA says that it has a place for those who hold position #1 and #2.  Then it invites a pastor to speak who appears to call position #1 and #2 satanic lies.  In the same year, one of its seminaries appears to purge its campus of anyone who ever held position #1 or #2.   

What accounts for this discrepancy between the ELCA's words and its actions?  Why is asking for an explanation such a terrible thing?
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Re: The thread for info on churches voting to change affiliation & all follow-up.
« Reply #10412 on: February 04, 2019, 10:59:28 AM »
thread hasn't been kept up as of late, but there is still a trickle of congregations leaving.

Statewide, there are 3 (I believe) who left in 2018.  One of those is half of a 2 point parish in Hershey NE, Maria Lutheran.  They successfully voted to leave and have joined NALC and LCMC.  We are helping to train their first diaconal minister through our mission district here.
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