The Lutheran Study Bible

[Harvey_Mozolak]

except Will, you did not include the Slovak diacritical markings....  Harvey Mozolak

[RevSteve]

Yes and if I am not mistaken the CPH study Bible was also originally going to simply be called "Lutheran Study Bible" but after AF stole it for their vastly inferior study Bible CPH was forced to add the "The.." 

Dear Steve,

In fact, the project was titled "The Lutheran Study Bible" pretty much from the start. You will find that title on our Grow in His Word site, which we set up in 2004 when I was Senior Editor for Adult Bible Studies. Here is the address:

http://infocus.cph.org/abs/

Note the date at the bottom of the page. We did not change our title in response to A/F. We wanted the acronym "TLSB" to distinguish the Study Bible from LSB (Lutheran Service Book, CPH's new hymn book). McCain chose the title, I chose the acronym.

Regarding the duration of the project, I kept telling the team: Good things take time; bad things can be done immediately. I thank God for the patience of CPH leadership and the patience of our customers, which allowed us to develop the most thorough Study Bible available in English.

In Christ,
Rev. Edward A. Engelbrecht, STM
Senior Editor for Professional and Academic Books
and Bible Resources

General Editor for The Lutheran Study Bible

Thanks for the clarification. And having recently received my copy in the mail, I concure that it was indeed worth the wait.

[Edward Engelbrecht]

Thanks for the clarification. And having recently received my copy in the mail, I concure that it was indeed worth the wait.

I pray that you enjoy your time of study and devotion in the book. I'm currently reading the KJV translation but then I read the application notes (marked with the Law and Gospel icon) in TLSB as part of my daily prayers. One of the things I appreciate most about the authors' work is the way they use the broad context of Scripture, following the principle of Scripture interprets Scripture, to illuminate and apply some of the more obscure texts. For example, I was reading Joshua 19:32--39 this morning, which is a list of the cities allotted to Naphtali---pretty dull, even for someone trained in biblical studies. The application note really helps liven up the reading experience and relates the historical significance of the passage to Christ.

[vicarbob]

vicarbob is not a Lutheran whom I would recognize as a fellow Lutheran.

How did I miss this posting
Thus far, I have been declared by "some" as not "Catholic' in Faith, now not Lutheran.
Do I dignify the poster with a response.
NOT
To my brother Matthew, thank you and keep up the studies. The Church has need of shepherds like you and your Dad.
I too use the Orthodox Study Bible and find it most helpful.
For the record, I have the highest regard for the LC-MS and have been mentored by some of Her pastors. I have counted LC-MS deacons as collegues and friends. I have been blessed to have come to know the LC-MS throughtout the years and have referred "seekers" Her way. One soon will be consecrated as a deacon.
In the posters attempt to be dismissive of Matt as a "youngster', any of us who have read Matt's sharing on this Forum are blessed by his faithfulness, maturity and his love and passion for ministry. His understanding of the Confessions is beyond his years and is not doubt been because of his parents, pastors, teachers and a host of other saints.
Lastly brother Lutherman, if being a "pewsitter with a checkbook" any way describes your understanding of being a Lutheran-Christian, then your pastor has his work cut out for him. Being a Christian has nothing to do with sitting on your butt and a checkbook.....ain't gettin' ya into heaven. The price has been paid and it wasn't written by you!

[George Erdner]

vicarbob is not a Lutheran whom I would recognize as a fellow Lutheran.

How did I miss this posting
Thus far, I have been declared by "some" as not "Catholic' in Faith, now not Lutheran.
Do I dignify the poster with a response.
NOT
To my brother Matthew, thank you and keep up the studies. The Church has need of shepherds like you and your Dad.
I too use the Orthodox Study Bible and find it most helpful.
For the record, I have the highest regard for the LC-MS and have been mentored by some of Her pastors. I have counted LC-MS deacons as collegues and friends. I have been blessed to have come to know the LC-MS throughtout the years and have referred "seekers" Her way. One soon will be consecrated as a deacon.
In the posters attempt to be dismissive of Matt as a "youngster', any of us who have read Matt's sharing on this Forum are blessed by his faithfulness, maturity and his love and passion for ministry. His understanding of the Confessions is beyond his years and is not doubt been because of his parents, pastors, teachers and a host of other saints.
Lastly brother Lutherman, if being a "pewsitter with a checkbook" any way describes your understanding of being a Lutheran-Christian, then your pastor has his work cut out for him. Being a Christian has nothing to do with sitting on your butt and a checkbook.....ain't gettin' ya into heaven. The price has been paid and it wasn't written by you!

Please bear in mind that in the ELCA, being a Lutheran is not a requirement. Being a Lutheran doesn't mean that you've signed up for membership somewhere, being a Lutheran means embracing the Lutheran confessions, culture, and traditions. The ELCA is such a big tent that those three things are not a requirement for membership. The full communion agreements that the ELCA has entered into, plus the recent decisions at the CWA, are proof that one need not be a Lutheran to be a member of the ELCA or even to be an ordained minister in the ELCA.

Your posts over the time I've been reading them indicate that you want to be a clergyman. They also indicate that you're not too fussy about being a Lutheran clergyman, it's just that the ELCA was the organization that accepted you for inclusion in their training program. Your posts about things like the position of Mary and your insistence that you will be a "presbyter" instead of a minister or pastor give evidence that deep down inside, you'd prefer to be a Roman Catholic Priest, but you're settling for becoming an ELCA clergyman.

There's nothing wrong with that.

You feel called to serve God as leader of a congregation of Christians. That's a good thing. You're working through an organization that is empowering you to achieve your goal. That's a good thing. Technically speaking, you'll be ordained as a "Lutheran" despite not really buying into the whole Lutheran thing, but that's not a big deal in the ELCA. Given our full-communion agreements, there could be clergy serving ELCA congregations who are Presbyterians, Methodists, Episcopalians, Mennonites, or members of the UCC. None of them are "recognized" as Lutherans, but it doesn't stand in their way of serving God by serving as leader of a congregation. So, when you become a "presbyter" instead of a Lutheran Pastor, that will be a good thing. If your congregation accepts you as their Minister, what difference does it make if you're really Lutheran or not? If the ELCA doesn't care that you aren't really a Lutheran, why should you feel offended if other people don't recognize you as Lutheran?

The truth be told, there are some graduates of Lutheran seminaries who've been ordained in the ELCA (or a predecessor body) and who are on the roster of the ELCA who are even less "Lutheran" than you. But that also doesn't matter. The ELCA doesn't enforce any rules requiring its clergy to be "Lutheran", so it clearly doesn't matter.

[Scott6]

Am I the only one on this board who pre-ordered and is still waiting...   

[Edward Engelbrecht]

Am I the only one on this board who pre-ordered and is still waiting...   

It looks like you placed the order in August so that would likely put you close to the end of the pre-order line. We started receiving preorders months before August. They are filled in the order in which they were received. Many, many, many thousands of copies are going out all at once, so I beg your patience.

And, no, I don't provide this sort of tracking for everyone. 

In Christ,
EE

[Iowegian]

Am I the only one on this board who pre-ordered and is still waiting...   

Nope, then again I ordered a leather-bound copy.  My reviews will be colored only by my impatience.   

[vicarbob]

George, you are just sooooooo way off its a pity, it is a shame and it is in error.
I will not rehash what has been stated soooo many times and we will no doubt never come to an understanding. What is even a greater pity is that dialogue will not be respectful or even factual. At least from you.
Chances are that I will never be pastor of an ELCA congregation of which you are a member. Mostly because you won't be a member of the ELCA much longer. That too is a good thing......why? because you need to be faithful to where you are called to be. So too, me.
Being called as a pastor in and for the Church is NOT a response to one's own desire/needs/wants. One doesn't settle upon a denomination or vocation in service. The Office of ministry is Divinely instituted, the call is from HIM. Fight it as I have, yet still HE calls! Surrender to His grace and mercy......and the challanges ahead once responded to.
So dear George , IM "Lutherarman", talk among yourselves . But refrain from dictating who is "called" and who is Lutheran. Neither of you are to sit in judgement, nor are you on my call committee. Even more so, you do not constitute the faithful of the congregation I have already been called to serve.
Pax,
Presbyter-in-waiting

[Scott6]

Am I the only one on this board who pre-ordered and is still waiting...   

It looks like you placed the order in August so that would likely put you close to the end of the pre-order line. We started receiving preorders months before August. They are filled in the order in which they were received. Many, many, many thousands of copies are going out all at once, so I beg your patience.

And, no, I don't provide this sort of tracking for everyone. 

In Christ,
EE

Hey, not true...

Order Summary:
Order Number:   XXXXX-OL
Purchase Date:   2/13/2009 12:13:10 PM
Current Status:   Shipped

Order Details:

   1   The Lutheran Study Bible - Hardback
Unit price: $34.99   $34.99   
      
Shipping Date:   9/2/2009 4:35:17 PM

I guess that the PO is slow...


[[But seriously, thanks for the special treatment (as long as it's not Dachau-style)...  ]]

[Rik]

I was under the understanding that the pre-publication price is available through October 31st.  Was I mis-informed?

I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB.......I need to order TLSB....... 

(Below quote: Ulrik Vilhelm Koren, Truths Unchanged, Unchanging: Selected Sermons, Addresses and Doctrinal Articles, tr. and ed. the Evangelical Lutheran Synod Translation Committee [Lake Mills, Iowa: Graphic Publishing Company, Inc., 1978]  p. 170, from Built On The Rock  [Mankato, Minnesota: Evangelical Lutheran Synod Book Company, 1992]  p.24.)



"Contempt for 'pure doctrine' is one of the signs of the times.  Doctrine in its deepest sense is never pure, if the necessity of its fruit in life is silenced or neglected."  -Ulrik Vilhelm Koren 1826-1910

[grabau14]

Scott,

I ordered mine last weekTuesday and I got it yesterday.  Maybe CPH likes me better .

[Scott6]

Scott,

I ordered mine last weekTuesday and I got it yesterday.  Maybe CPH likes me better .

All I can say is...

Il faut rire avant d'être heureux, de peur de mourir sans avoir ri.

Uh, "Ha, ha!" 

[[The French qualifier is tomorrow]]

[Lutheranistic]

For some inexplicable reason, I always enjoy the opportunity to make use of 3 years of high school French, especially when a proverb such as this is easily recognized. But I also can't resist the temptation to let my desktop translator take a stab at it, which came up with this, due to a slight misspelling:

It is necessary to laugh before being happy, of fear of dying without have laughed.

[Edward Engelbrecht]

Am I the only one on this board who pre-ordered and is still waiting...   

It looks like you placed the order in August so that would likely put you close to the end of the pre-order line. We started receiving preorders months before August. They are filled in the order in which they were received. Many, many, many thousands of copies are going out all at once, so I beg your patience.

And, no, I don't provide this sort of tracking for everyone. 

In Christ,
EE

Hey, not true...

Order Summary:
Order Number:   XXXXX-OL
Purchase Date:   2/13/2009 12:13:10 PM
Current Status:   Shipped

Order Details:

   1   The Lutheran Study Bible - Hardback
Unit price: $34.99   $34.99   
      
Shipping Date:   9/2/2009 4:35:17 PM

I guess that the PO is slow...


[[But seriously, thanks for the special treatment (as long as it's not Dachau-style)...  ]]

Thanks for your note, Scott. I've emailed this to customer service. We will be in touch.

In Christ,
EE