Politics as cult

[Lutheran_Lay_Leader]

Did you know that Annenberg was a great friend and buddy of Ronald Reagan's? That he was appointed ambassador to the UK by President Nixon? That he was a lifelong Republican?

Did you know that Walter Annenberg died in 2002, and that his current active influence from beyond the grave on the foundation that bears his name is probably minimal.

[anonymous]

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

[Keith Falk]

Did you know that I am looking forward to the day after Election Day with an almost giddy anticipation so we can talk about something else?

[anonymous]

Poor Keith. Someone want to explain to him that the election is going to be sliced and diced for days to come.... Oh, I once thought that the three year election period was going to end, but I am sure we will be discussing the ramifications.

[Scott5]

Poor Keith. Someone want to explain to him that the election is going to be sliced and diced for days to come.... Oh, I once thought that the three year election period was going to end, but I am sure we will be discussing the ramifications.

I guess the answer to the thread, then, is quite obviously: "Yes."

Sigh.  Maybe afterwards we can take the theological discussions over the cult to other sites dedicated to the political theology philosophy?  Just sayin...

[jrubyaz]

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

[anonymous]

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

It is not nastiness. I am simply saying you hit on all the Dem talking points. If you want an apology I'll take back moveon.org and say you sound like Chris Matthews. Better?

[jrubyaz]

No, not better. Why don't you think a tad before hitting the send key. You must be hanging on the computer salivating to respond as your posts are seconds after mine. Might be time to get some fresh air.

The facts about Annenberg are for all to see. I can't help it if you didn't do your homework . And I don't watch MSNBC either. 

Jeff Ruby

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

It is not nastiness. I am simply saying you hit on all the Dem talking points. If you want an apology I'll take back moveon.org and say you sound like Chris Matthews. Better?

[anonymous]

No, not better. Why don't you think a tad before hitting the send key. You must be hanging on the computer salivating to respond as your posts are seconds after mine. Might be time to get some fresh air.

The facts about Annenberg are for all to see. I can't help it if you didn't do your homework . And I don't watch MSNBC either. 

Jeff Ruby

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

It is not nastiness. I am simply saying you hit on all the Dem talking points. If you want an apology I'll take back moveon.org and say you sound like Chris Matthews. Better?

I just want some logic. Salivating? Please. I want you to explain where you are coming from. I am trying to understand how someone who was a vocal opponent of the gay agenda is now puching for th ecnadidate who is going to oversee the normalization of the gay agenda.

So tell where get the Dem talking points?

[Lutheran_Lay_Leader]

Did you know that I am looking forward to the day after Election Day with an almost giddy anticipation so we can talk about something else?

I didn't realize that all of the other threads in here were locked.

[Steven Tibbetts]

Did you know that Annenberg was a great friend and buddy of Ronald Reagan's? That he was appointed ambassador to the UK by President Nixon? That he was a lifelong Republican?

Just one more example of a wealthy, principled conservative establishing a foundation that, a few years after death, becomes a force behind political efforts 180 degrees opposite of what he established it for in the first place.  The only thing unusual about the Annenberg Foundation is that the old man seems to have checked out of overseeing things while he was still living.

pax, spt+

[Layman Randy]

Did you know that I am looking forward to the day after Election Day with an almost giddy anticipation so we can talk about something else?

I didn't realize that all of the other threads in here were locked.

In the extraordinary passion evidenced on this and other "political" threads on this site, I can hold the hope that such passion is multiplied a million times by everyone here as they serve Christ and teach His Word the other 99% of their existence!

[Steven Tibbetts]

Pastor Zip is friends with both Valentin Ernst Löscher and jrubyaz, and observes that each is posting in a tone that has pervaded U. S. Presidential since at least the 1800 Jefferson vs. Adams campaign. 

Alas, I'm thinking "Sally Hemmings" and "His Rotundity," etc., not the correspondence during their friendship (which was, uh, on hold during their respective presidencies).

Looking forward to the end of this election, and anticipating the beginning of the 2012 campaign -- that's Wednesday afternoon.

spt+ 

[jrubyaz]

Maybe because Senator Obama is also against gay marriage, but supports  liberties for all Americans? I do not support gay marriage. I do believe that gay people have civil rights as all American people should. And marriage is different from civil rights for all people.

And I wish those who were as passionate about issues such as gay rights and abortion were just as passionate about issues concerning poverty, war and peace, and health care. No, I am not for universal health care either.

Many people are concerned with all these issues. Some are one issue voters. I have never been a one issue voter. And maybe being President also has to do with intelligence, being well read, and perceptive about issues in addition to the  issues one espouses. Hope that helps.

Jeff Ruby       

No, not better. Why don't you think a tad before hitting the send key. You must be hanging on the computer salivating to respond as your posts are seconds after mine. Might be time to get some fresh air.

The facts about Annenberg are for all to see. I can't help it if you didn't do your homework . And I don't watch MSNBC either. 

Jeff Ruby

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

It is not nastiness. I am simply saying you hit on all the Dem talking points. If you want an apology I'll take back moveon.org and say you sound like Chris Matthews. Better?

I just want some logic. Salivating? Please. I want you to explain where you are coming from. I am trying to understand how someone who was a vocal opponent of the gay agenda is now puching for th ecnadidate who is going to oversee the normalization of the gay agenda.

So tell where get the Dem talking points?

[SCPO]

Maybe because Senator Obama is also against gay marriage, but supports  liberties for all Americans? I do not support gay marriage. I do believe that gay people have civil rights as all American people should. And marriage is different from civil rights for all people.

And I wish those who were as passionate about issues such as gay rights and abortion were just as passionate about issues concerning poverty, war and peace, and health care. No, I am not for universal health care either.

Many people are concerned with all these issues. Some are one issue voters. I have never been a one issue voter. And maybe being President also has to do with intelligence, being well read, and perceptive about issues in addition to the  issues one espouses. Hope that helps.

Jeff Ruby       

No, not better. Why don't you think a tad before hitting the send key. You must be hanging on the computer salivating to respond as your posts are seconds after mine. Might be time to get some fresh air.

The facts about Annenberg are for all to see. I can't help it if you didn't do your homework . And I don't watch MSNBC either. 

Jeff Ruby

Valentin,

I don't appreciate that comment, and would ask for an apology but know I  won't get it. Google Walter Annenberg. Facts are facts. He was a lifelong GOP member, was involved in both the Nixon and Reagan administrations.

You many not like that , but facts are facts. And BTW, I have never visited the moveon.org site and am a registered independent. Cut out the nastiness.

Jeff Ruby 

Did you know that some former Republicans switch is so complete that they repeat every Dem talking point so that they sound like moveon.org? 

It is not nastiness. I am simply saying you hit on all the Dem talking points. If you want an apology I'll take back moveon.org and say you sound like Chris Matthews. Better?

I just want some logic. Salivating? Please. I want you to explain where you are coming from. I am trying to understand how someone who was a vocal opponent of the gay agenda is now puching for th ecnadidate who is going to oversee the normalization of the gay agenda.

So tell where get the Dem talking points?

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