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Your Turn / Liz Cheney Commencement Address
« Last post by Michael Slusser on Today at 10:59:13 AM »
For Memorial Day, and
for those who fear our colleges and universities have lost their way,
here's the commencement address former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) gave at Colorado College:
https://www.coloradocollege.edu/other/commencement/resources/2023/liz-cheney.html

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Class of 2023, go forth. Stand in truth. Do good and be kind. Always do the next right thing. Be heroes. Be incandescent with courage. Defend our democracy. Love and serve our country. She – and we – have never needed you more.

Peace,
Michael
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Your Turn / Re: Traditional/Revisionist divide and Church unity
« Last post by peter_speckhard on Yesterday at 10:23:26 PM »
Of the final four teams in the NHL playoffs, Las Vegas was the northernmost. Truly the end is nigh.
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Your Turn / Re: Traditional/Revisionist divide and Church unity
« Last post by Dave Benke on Yesterday at 09:54:33 PM »
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Do any faithful Christian members of ALPB support the Dodgers after this? 

https://overcast.fm/+F1ntFz20

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As a lifelong Giants fan, I've never supported the Dodgers anyway.  8)

And since they both originated in New York, of what earthly good could either team be?

Looking at the LCMS Convention Workbook, I'm thinking resolutions could be forthcoming condemning fans from various teams and sports, viz.:

NBA - far too anti-racist in the public square, including (and this hurts) Giannis of the Bucks who paved the way for games to be postponed during the Kenosha incident.  Since the NBA is either overtly or covertly connected to Critical Race Theory, turn in your season tickets or else.

MLB - not only the Dodgers but all the teams feature various "identity" and "inclusion" nights at the ballpark.  Women announcers, women in front office leadership, headed in the wrong direction.

NHL - players with long names from other countries and the puck is too small to see half the time.  These aren't theological reasons but Canada has gone lib, that's for sure and it's really their sport.  Tampa Bay and Phoenix with hockey teams is completely against the order of creation, which is a theological reason to avoid it.

The NFL is exempt from criticism because its cathedral is in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

Soccer/Football and X Game Sports are heterodox per se.  As are any professional women's sports.

Dave Benke
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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« Last post by Dan Fienen on Yesterday at 09:29:17 PM »
It would be interesting to read a informed critique of Christian Nationalism.  From what I can tell, Christian Nationalism is a repackaged version of Christian Reconstructionism.  It's very popular with a certain kind of Calvinist.  It is probably not compatible with Lutheranism.

I mentioned earlier that at least one proponent of Christian Nationalism has been outed as a white supremacist.  Although, to be fair, it was a conservative Calvinist with some sympathy toward Christian Nationalism, who outed him.

At the very least, I think we should be as wary of Christian Nationalism as we are of Christian Marxism.
Years ago when I first became aware of Christian  Reconstructionism and Rushdoony et. al. It seemed to me that in their Christian utopia I would be among the first against the wall.
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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« Last post by DCharlton on Yesterday at 09:21:29 PM »
It would be interesting to read a informed critique of Christian Nationalism.  From what I can tell, Christian Nationalism is a repackaged version of Christian Reconstructionism.  It's very popular with a certain kind of Calvinist.  It is probably not compatible with Lutheranism.

I mentioned earlier that at least one proponent of Christian Nationalism has been outed as a white supremacist.  Although, to be fair, it was a conservative Calvinist with some sympathy toward Christian Nationalism, who outed him.

At the very least, I think we should be as wary of Christian Nationalism as we are of Christian Marxism. 
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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« Last post by Dan Fienen on Yesterday at 09:07:31 PM »
Are atheists prohibited from voting for laws that their beliefs lead them to believe will be good for society? Does that mean that atheists are imposing their beliefs on everyone else? Separation of Church and State is Important, it's part of what makes it possible for us to live together in a pluralistic society. The absence of an established religion means no particular religion has priority, or is advantaged over other religions or no religion in public debate or public life. But neither should Christians be particularly disadvantaged because of their religion. That seems to be what some in the Church/State debates desire, the Christians be discriminated against in public debate and in access to public benefits.


Should religiously grounded ideas be prohibited in the public square? No! It doesn't really matter if what you believe is good comes from Jehovah, The Buddha, The Flying Spaghetti Monster (Pastafarianism), or Evolution and its prophet Darwin, a good idea is a good idea wherever it comes from. The point is not where I got the idea I propose, the point is whether I can convince other of its worth. "Thus saith the Lord," is not likely to be very convincing to someone not already a believer in Him. The problem with supporting Christian ideals in the Public Square is not that they are Christian and therefore illegitimate in public discussion but that being Christian is often not very convincing to non-Christians. Something along the lines of "my God says, and here's why I think you would agree even though you may not believe in my God. (Similar, in a way, to "my Dad always says." Not knowing your Dad, please explain why you think his insight good.)
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They have their own website: https://www.lcmc.net/
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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« Last post by Donald_Kirchner on Yesterday at 07:13:19 PM »
"Christian nationalism' obsession by some on the left aims to marginalize pro-life Christians: Radio host"

"It's not just Christians who vote their beliefs. Even atheists vote for their values.

But by shining the political "church vs. state" spotlight on Christians, it then absolves everyone else of the exact same crime."

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/christian-nationalism-obsession-left-aims-marginalize-pro-life-christians-radio-host
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Your Turn / Re: Traditional/Revisionist divide and Church unity
« Last post by peter_speckhard on Yesterday at 06:11:19 PM »
The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence exist solely to mock and disparage Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. They have stage names like “Porn Again” and do pole dances on large crosses. Imagine a group dedicated to mocking Mohammed and Islam. Imagine a group that burned rainbow flags publicly as a statement of purpose being granted these privileges and celebrations.

Conservatives will complain, of course, but until progressives decide that there are more important things than not being in the same side of an issue as conservatives, this sort of obscenity will continue. And saying, “Well, I don’t support that,” while not publicly condemning those who tolerate and promote it is simply being part of the problem.
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A long-time member of this Forum, Pr. Lou Hesse, pastors Living Word Lutheran congregation in Moses Lake WA that is affiliated with LCMC - Augustana District. His wife Debbie (who did the typing ;) ) has been a trustee of the ILT in South Dakota.

I miss Lou. His contributions were original, courteous, and non-partisan.

Peace,
Michael
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