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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 23, 2020, 09:53:02 PM »
Yes ... the following is President Trump’s tweet concerning the GSA

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1331013907859845121

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I want to thank Emily Murphy at GSA for her steadfast dedication and loyalty to our Country. She has been harassed, threatened, and abused – and I do not want to see this happen to her, her family, or employees of GSA. Our case STRONGLY continues, we will keep up the good...

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 23, 2020, 10:51:44 AM »
No. But Republican efforts to make voting difficult for certain people are known.

Ah yes, the always useful "those people".  Much like Trump unsubstantiated allegations of voter fraud, you cannot back this up with any meaningful proof.  (We're back to Biden's delayed transition will cause 150K deaths.)  Insisting on legitimate measures to prevent fraud is not voter suppression, no matter how many times the talking point is repeated.

The point of my post was not the reason to dispute an election result.  It was that prominent Democrats disputed an election result. And most news organizations reported it without context or ever blinking.  But what Trump doing now is not unprecedented.

Telling us it's okay when your side does it, because you have legitimate reasons, is exactly the kind of BS I'm calling BS on.  What makes "your" side any different, beyond that you think you're right.

I'm calling out how the media treats politicians disputing election results differently, based on their party affiliation and grievance claim.  Of course "voter suppression" always wins out, because "everyone" knows it's white supremacists targeting minorities.  Guilty until proven innocent.  Again, some people refuse to understand the double standards that have fueled a Trump fact-indifferent "cult".   :-\
Thank you Mr. Spatz for addressing this issue.

Voter suppression like racism is a charge very gratuitously used … Charges made of both seldom are accompanied by any shred of specificity ... just saying voter suppression and/or racism is assumed true by many.

And as you point out ... It’s always the other side guilty of these egregious activities… One is always blinded to never see that their side is equally guilty.

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Your Turn / Re: Thanksgiving 2020 Now Thank We All Our God
« on: November 23, 2020, 12:31:05 AM »
A Pastor’s Message from a November Congregation Newsletter recently received electronically ..

Quote from:  Deuteronomy 16
13 “You shall keep the Feast of Booths seven days, when you have gathered in the produce from your threshing floor and your winepress. 14 You shall rejoice in your feast, you and your son and your daughter, your male servant and your female servant, the Levite, the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow who are within your towns. 15 For seven days you shall keep the feast to the Lord your God at the place that the Lord will choose, because the Lord your God will bless you in all your produce and in all the work of your hands, so that you will be altogether joyful.
Quote from: Times of Thanksgiving
It seems natural for people everywhere to acknowledge their blessings with a special time of thanks-giving. It’s important to look back and count our blessings, even through (especially through!) the hardships we’ve endured. It may seem natural, but it is also The Old Testament people of God observed 3 great feasts, according to the instructions of Deuteronomy. The third of these was a harvest feast: the Feast of Booths (or Tabernacles). The Hebrew name of the festival, “Sukkot”, refers to the booths or tents that were set up in the fields for the farmers, temporary dwellings for them while they brought in the harvest. These tents were also meant to remind the people of their 40 years of wilderness sojourn, when they (and the Ark of the Covenant) also resided in tents. Those 40 years, I’m sure, were no picnic for the Israelites. But perhaps they made it all the sweeter when they finally could settle in their permanent home – the Promised Land.

We don’t celebrate the Old Covenant and its feasts anymore since their fulfillment in Christ. But we are still thankful, and take time to do so formally. As Christians, our whole lives are lived in thanksgiving to God. Thanksgiving is part of every Christian gathering. Christ’s redemption, Luther teaches us, is the cause for us to “thank and praise, serve and obey him”. But then there’s this thing that happens in November every year...

Thanksgiving as a national holiday can be traced back to 1864 and the declaration of Abraham Lincoln for a national day of thanksgiving. This day was declared during great hardship – in the midst of the Civil War! You should read his declaration. It’s full of humble reverence before God and recognizes him and his blessings.

Then of course there’s the “First Thanksgiving” feast in which the pilgrims shared a meal with the Native Americans. They, too had faced challenges of a hardscrabble life and rejoiced to survive the winter. One article describes it this way: Just over 50 colonists are believed to have attended, including 22 men, four married women... and more than 25 children and teenagers. These were the lucky ones who had made it through a rough entry into the New World, including a harsh winter during which an epidemic of disease swept through the colony, felling nearly half the original group. Some 78 percent of the women who had arrived on the Mayflower had died during the first winter, a far higher percentage than for men or children. “For the English, [the first Thanksgiving] was also celebrating the fact that they had survived their first year here in New England,” (Sarah Pruitt from History.com)

Somehow I suspect Thanksgiving 2020 will be a special one for many people. We have much for which to be thankful. Even under all the chaos of the pandemic – we have food and clothing, food and drink, house and home... and abundant physical blessings. Most of us have been spared the illness, and those of us that have gotten it have almost all recovered. We have excellent medical care to aid in that, and improvements have been made even from the early days of COVID. The millions of deaths that were first predicted seem to be off the table. Thanks be to God.

But perhaps most of all, the pandemic has not separated us from the Word of God. We still have many opportunities to hear and receive – both in person and via technology, the gifts of God. Our church has faced its challenges, just as each of us has in many ways – work, family, friends. But God has blessed us richly. Perhaps he has even used these difficult circumstances to increase in us an appreciation of that which is most important. I know it has been that way for me.

As Christians we have a far deeper understanding of “thanks-giving” than anyone. For starters, we know the Giver of all good things: the Triune God, who bestows blessings of creation, redemption and sanctification. We give him thanks for our very existence – in him we live and breathe and have our being. But even more. We give him thanks for the redemption he has provided us in his Son Jesus Christ our Lord. A spotless sacrifice for sin, whose blood purifies us all. A perfect substitute who takes our place both in the punishment we deserve, but also in accomplishing the righteousness we cannot. At the top of any lists of counted blessings, for us Christians, is Jesus Christ our blessed Savior.

We will offer a service of Evening Prayer on Thanksgiving Eve - Wednesday November 25th, 7pm. Please join us (if your level of precaution allows) for a time of reflection on God’s word and consideration of his gifts to us, for which we give him our heartfelt thanks.

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Your Turn / Re: Thanksgiving 2020 Now Thank We All Our God
« on: November 23, 2020, 12:13:20 AM »
CW (WELS) 610

Thank you for the CW reference ... the Christian Worship reference was intended .. but was distracted when retrieving the Evangelical Lutheran Hymn-Book from another bookshelf.

Kings College, Cambridge provides an across the pond rendition of Now Thank We All Our God

For an Organ only (captioned lyrics provided) Now Thank We All Our God - J. S. Bach (arr. Virgil Fox)

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 22, 2020, 07:44:41 PM »
He has exceeded his limit of challenge flags; and to further your analogy, he suffers no consequences when the challenge is not upheld as coaches do. (Does the cost of the lawyers who file the challenges that are repeatedly rejected even come out of his pockets?)
It seems some have a habit of making baseless and falicious accusations.

If indeed President Trump’s campaign had ‘exceeded his limit’ of legal challenges, the courts would have informed him.

Perhaps the reason President Trump suffers no consequences when his court challenges fail is because, unlike the coaches who are playing a game, President Trump is fighting a real life war.

It is increasingly troubling that some steadfastly refuse to allow the legal process to proceed ... instead insisting that the legal process be circumvented to achieve their personal/political goals.

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Your Turn / Re: The Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical Books
« on: November 22, 2020, 03:43:28 PM »
Luther's understanding of the Book of James changed over time. What you are citing comes from the early 1520s. It does not represent Luther's mature use of the book. Luther's Works, vol. 35 provides both the earlier and later statements from Luther. The introduction to the Book of James in The Lutheran Study Bible tracks the change over Luther's life.

Not having Luther’s Works,  Rev Rahn’s question seems a bit contradictory ...
I'd like some proof outside the Lutheran Study Bible which indicates Luther changing his idea about the Epistle of James being anything but antilegomena.
It seems that The Lutheran Study Bible (CPH edition) is simply reflecting material from Luther’s Works ... if so, isn’t any skepticism really with the contents of Luther’s Works ... and not with TLSB?

Because, as I quoted from Luther's Works in an earlier post, his opinion doesn't seemed to have changed. Straw in the barn serves a good purpose; but it doesn't bring salvation. Thus was his opinion about James.
It’s apparent as to your beliefs and agenda differ from most ... confessing that a scriptural marriage does not include a requirement for monogamy raises great doubt with any of your subsequent pronouncements ... please allow Rev Rahn elaborate as it is quite apparent that his confession has little resemblance to yours. 
 

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Your Turn / Re: The Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical Books
« on: November 22, 2020, 03:23:28 PM »
Luther's understanding of the Book of James changed over time. What you are citing comes from the early 1520s. It does not represent Luther's mature use of the book. Luther's Works, vol. 35 provides both the earlier and later statements from Luther. The introduction to the Book of James in The Lutheran Study Bible tracks the change over Luther's life.

Not having Luther’s Works,  Rev Rahn’s question seems a bit contradictory ...
I'd like some proof outside the Lutheran Study Bible which indicates Luther changing his idea about the Epistle of James being anything but antilegomena.
It seems that The Lutheran Study Bible (CPH edition) is simply reflecting material from Luther’s Works ... if so, isn’t any skepticism really with the contents of Luther’s Works ... and not with TLSB?

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 22, 2020, 02:52:13 PM »
No it is not an overstatement.
Respectfully, Rev. Fienen, myself and many Americans do believe fraud exists in some of the election results ... why the fear of allowing litigation to proceed?

Yes .. many respect that you believe that fraud accusations are overstatements .. please respect those who differ with you.

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 22, 2020, 12:11:00 PM »
Q. Why can experts in one state reject voting equipment on multiple occasions that others would even consider putting into use?
A. Because there are many reasons to choose one type of equipment over another. Choosing another system does not mean "rejecting" other systems because they are flawed. Dominion has been used for years in numerous states without any difficulties. They are used in states that went heavily for Trump. (Source: Washington Post, 11/20)

The following should give cause for pause for all ...
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Specifically, the examiner reports raise concerns about whether the Democracy Suite 5.5-A system is suitable for its intended purpose; operates efficiently and accurately; and is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation.”
In elections ... the appearance of being beyond reproach is as important as the count of votes ... if the count is correct ... but there is doubt ... does confidence exist in the vote count?

Q: How can anyone have confidence in election results when questionable voting systems are used?
A: There are risks, as there are with any machine anywhere, but this year cyber-security experts and election administrators this year have said that there is no evidence that the machines have been compromised in November's voting. Dominion has replied, sometimes on its website, to all questions. Much of the hysteria declared by Trump and his allies, including erroneous (but often repeated) allegations that the company has ties to Venezuela, has been proven false. Cyber-security experts, including those appointed by the President, have not found flaws in the vote counting. The president and his lawyer, without giving any evidence, rejects their conclusions.
Dominion responding without independent vetting of their claims is nothing more than the fox guarding the hen house.

The State of Texas has absolutely nothing to gain from what they wrote ... Dominion on the other hand has everything to gain by what they write ... trust but verify ... there has been no independent verification of Dominions claims.

Q: Thankfully the head of the GSA is above the fray ... cool headed awaiting reliable election results.
A: This is a relatively minor matter, but worth a quick look.
Emily Murphy has been in her job for less than three years. The GSA has always made transition funds available to the President-Elect shortly after the voting and well before all results were "certified."  Two days ago, senior members of the House of Representatives said they may ask Murphy to testify before them on why she refuses to release the funds, contending "there is no legal basis" for withholding transition funds.
And it is also interesting that a month before the election, Trump issued an executive order giving his lawyers a "higher step on the ladder" of GSA decision-making and transition matters; and just a week before the election, Trump moved a White House lawyer into the position of GSA Counsel.

How was transition handled in 2000?  Unless funding was released to both Bush and Gore during the litigation process, there is no precedent to expect funding at this time.  By the way, senior members of the House of Representatives is hardly a neutral non biased group of people ..they are acting at the behest to their political party and persuasion.

Q: Is Murphy "Cool-headed? Awaiting reliable election results?"
A: No. "Reliable election results" exist, showing Biden wins. She is a Trump flunky doing his bidding without regard to law and precedent, as part of his "scorched earth" policy, causing as much damage as possible before he leaves (or is ushered out) of the White House.
As evident by on going legal proceedings, election results are in question ... there is no harm in letting these inquiries run their course ... they either will prove the validity of the election results .. or confirm that there is reasonable doubt in the results now presented.

Again ... the union survived and in many ways the voting process was improved following the 2000 vote and litigation process ... if nothing changes here but addressing the doubt about Dominion voting systems and standardizing when ballots are counted, the country as a whole will be better off.

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Your Turn / Re: The Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical Books
« on: November 22, 2020, 12:15:12 AM »
I tend to view James like Proverbs; books of common sense for God's people.
Yup ... kind of like the other 64 canonical Books of The Bible ... and as Luther says ..
Quote from: Rev. Dr. Martin Luther
Martin Luther’s German translation did include these books in between the Old Testament and the New Testament, with this important note: “Apocrypha: These books are not held equal to the Sacred Scriptures, and yet are useful and good for reading.”

A big difference between the ‘66’ and all the other non canonical ones .. as Rev. Engelbrech so truthfully posted ..,
I view the Book of James as the inspired and inerrant Word of God, thanking Him for it.
Simply wishing Rev Stoffregen’s confession were so clear, concise, and Biblical.

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 21, 2020, 11:50:14 PM »
Pennsylvania lawmakers criticizing Dominion Voting Systems after it backs out of hearing

Quote from: 69 WFMZ News
Pennsylvania Representative Seth Grove did not mince words in Harrisburg Friday after a roundtable discussion with Dominion Voting Systems was canceled overnight. Dominion says it is under litigation and can not answer questions at this time.

"Today I am saddened to report to the taxpayers of Pennsylvania and the 1.3 million voters who used Dominion voting that Dominion has hung you out to dry and slapped you in your faces," Grove said.

Dominion Voting Systems first came under fire shortly after the election. President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani has attempted to say the software Dominion uses has ties to Venezuela, and there were glitches in the software that might have switched votes.

GOP lawmakers say software and transparency were two big topics they were hoping to touch on.

Pennsylvania GOP moves on legislature election audit; committee chair says Dominion is 'hiding'
Quote from: J. D. Prose, USA Today
York County Republican state Rep. Seth Grove, the acting chairman of the House State Government Committee, on Friday defended his push for a legislative audit of the general election and questioned why a voting systems supplier pulled out of its appearance before his committee.

“My job is to figure out what happened and how we do it better,” Grove told the USA TODAY Network following a press conference in Harrisburg during which he called out Dominion Voting Systems officials for canceling an appearance before the State Government Committee.

“If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding from us?” Grove said during the press conference.

Dominion voting systems a no show at Pennsylvania hearing today A 5 minute interview on concerns with Dominion voting systems in Pennsylvania ... Dominion backed out of appearing before PA law makers ... because of “pending litigation.”

Pennsylvania Law makers have no idea who owns and runs the company.

Again, remember The State of Texas on multiple occasions over the years, prior to Election Day, refused to certified Dominion voting systems for use in the state.

Texas Rejected Use of Dominion Voting System Software Due to Efficiency Issues

Quote from: The Texan
Evaluations show Texas officials had concerns about Dominion Voting Systems product's efficiency and reliability when they rejected their use in January of this year.

Texas has three times rejected use of ballot counting software from the company Dominion Voting Systems (DVS), according to a report from the Secretary of State’s (SOS) office dated January of this year.

The report of review for the latest software, “Democracy Suite 5.5-A,” by Deputy Secretary of State Jose Esparza states, “Specifically, the examiner reports raise concerns about whether the Democracy Suite 5.5-A system is suitable for its intended purpose; operates efficiently and accurately; and is safe from fraudulent or unauthorized manipulation.”

Quote from: Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton
Attorney General Ken Paxton, whose office was involved in the decision to reject the software, said on a radio show this week, “We have not approved these voting systems based on repeated software and hardware issues. It was determined they were not accurate and that they failed — they had a vulnerability to fraud and unauthorized manipulation.”

But each of the Secretary of State’s three reports — conducted in August of 2012, January of 2019, and October of 2019 — indicate potential security issues were, at most, a secondary concern.

Fifty years ago ... on the way to the moon the phrase ‘Houston, We have a problem’ was spoken beginning a life or death effort to save three astronauts...

Today the phrase ‘America needs confidence in its voting process’ should ring equally loud ...

Why can experts in one state reject voting equipment on multiple occasions that others would even consider putting into use? 

How can anyone have confidence in election results when questionable voting systems are used?

Thankfully the head of the GSA is above the fray ... cool headed awaiting reliable election results.

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 20, 2020, 05:17:39 PM »
Yes, There Was Election Fraud. The Question Is How Much
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Was the fraud just at the fringes? Or was there fraud on the rampant scale former Illinois governor and convicted corruption connoisseur Rod Blagojevich suggested on Friday?

One has to wonder about Transition Spectacle media event we are witnessing daily on the MSM news-proclamations ... snippets of Biden attempting to be relevant in front a Jumbotron.  Never in US history has a supposed presidential transition been turned into a media event.

Not only has the State of Texas found irregularities in the Dominion votings systems on multiple occasions prior to the 2020 election cycle, but PBS prior to Election Day reported on Dominion system anomalies ... strangely today crickets 🦗 ... they are ignoring their reporting on this flaky voting equipment.

Meanwhile some of the most credible evidence of election irregularities is coming to light evidenced by the MSM working overtime ... not to report the news about these irregularities ... but boldly telling us what we are to think about evidence meant for a unbiased court to render a decision on.

Just as in 2000, the validity of the voting procedure will have its day in court. The union survived in 2000… The union will survive in 2020!

If not anything else perhaps there is enough question about Dominion voting equipment that it will be looked at extremely closely before it is ever used in a fair and balanced United States election again.

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 20, 2020, 09:36:53 AM »
I also recall similar warnings about the dangers of moving our embassy to Jerusalem.  I have not seen any of those apocalyptic predictions come true.

Marshall Hahn
Numerous presidents have indicated that the US Embassy in Israel should be in Jerusalem ... President Trump kept his campaign promise to finally locate the US Embassy in Jerusalem.

Thankfully the intimidating posturing if enemies of the Jewish government apparently have more bark than bite 🐕🤓
We live by faith and not by sight, we just have to have faith that those disastrous effects of Trump are/will happen.
That’s odd ... where was anyone blaming President Trump for any disastrous effects??

It was a very great plus for him to fulfill the promises of numerous previous administrations.

Perhaps the tragedy is that the peace accords reached among various enemy states over the past year or so has been white washed by the progressive media campaign.

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Your Turn / Re: Life in Quarantine: One man's reflections
« on: November 19, 2020, 08:11:17 PM »
Definitely worth a read: https://concordiatheology.org/2018/11/jeff-gibbs-the-myth-of-righteous-anger/

Jeff Gibbs, "The Myth of Righteous Anger: What the Bible Says About Human Anger".
Anger ... especially unrighteous anger can be worse than cancer .. eating away at one’s heart ... damaging the heart and soul far more disastrously than cancer eats away at the body.

Anger often results from focusing on one’s self and problems rather than focusing on our Loving God and the salvation won for us through the birth, life, suffering, death and resurrection of Jesus, the Christ.

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Your Turn / Re: Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 19, 2020, 07:57:36 PM »
I also recall similar warnings about the dangers of moving our embassy to Jerusalem.  I have not seen any of those apocalyptic predictions come true.

Marshall Hahn
Numerous presidents have indicated that the US Embassy in Israel should be in Jerusalem ... President Trump kept his campaign promise to finally locate the US Embassy in Jerusalem.

Thankfully the intimidating posturing of the enemies of the Jewish government apparently have more bark than bite 🐕🤓

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