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Your Turn / Re: Protecting Our Children
« on: July 08, 2020, 06:16:30 PM »
I was once told that some Catholics who studied why pedophiles want to become priests and they found it wasn't because that is where the children were. Actually they felt guilty about their pedophilic tenancies and wanted to make up for it by becoming a priest. After becoming priests they slip up.

Although Lutherans aren't saddled with a system of indulgences and merits, I remember one Lutheran pastor discussing the degrees of glory in much the same way and how churchworkers would be rewarded with a higher degree of glory because of the sacrifices made to serve in the ministry. This is rarely talked about directly. It is more reflected in little things here and there.

If we got rid of degrees of glory and took away some of the specialness when talking about churchly things and especially when advertising for seminaries maybe the pedophiles wouldn't feel like ministry is a good way to make up for it.

Still another problem is that with reporting increasing in recent years it is possible to lose sight of what is "really" abuse. In some communities the number of CPS reports are so high now that the number of in-home visits and investigations by social workers are around or even slightly higher than the total number of children divided by 18. So "every" child is abused or neglected--and this breeds contempt for the law. When CPS becomes the common enemy that "every" parent is worried about, then the taboo against reporting someone close becomes a factor. Anyone who reports becomes an enemy to all. I don't have a good answer for this, but it may be part of the problem in some places.

Related to the above issue is that many children taken from their parents like for a 72 hour hold or for longer end up being placed with a mixed group of other detained children and a decent percentage of them end up abused by the other children in the system. This makes people see CPS as an enabler of pedophilia rather than the solution to it.

Another factor is mobbing. Because mobbing is unregulated and not transparent it is a good way to get rid of someone raising questions about their openly sexually deviant behavior. I have witnessed this directly. Plus the US Department of Justice says that attacking is one of the five common defenses pedophiles use--

The whole shameless approach from Bolz-Weber and other trendy people is exceedingly dangerous. Part of how some predators work is that they test the waters to see how people respond. They tell off-color jokes and see who laughs or to see if no one objects. The taboo against small things must be retained so that we will all see and notice when something is wrong and not be calloused.

Another more distant factor similar to having strong boundaries about off-color behavior is alcohol. A certain percentage of pedophiles are on alcohol when doing their abusing or have habitual problems with it or other substances and I suspect the same is true of clerical pedophiles. People laugh stuff off that occurs under the influence when they shouldn't be condoning it.

Also some of the different denominations don't talk to each other enough when pastors that get kicked out of one denomination try to join another one. The pastor who groomed me lied about how he had been forced out of the ministry in his previous denomination. Had I known it was for I would have never decided to be alone with him.

Also sometimes children are motivated by getting people to feel guilty when they haven't done anything wrong. Then the youth make up for it by doing wrong things. This makes it easy for them to transgress with the abuser; it is from stereotype threat. In general people can watch for this pattern in preaching or elsewhere so it does not become commonplace and accepted. Related to this is too much talking about circumcision; especially advocating that is is a good thing to do today or that children not circumcised should be. I know it sounds strange for gentiles to do this but some people are strange about it.

Your Turn / Re: Protecting Our Children
« on: July 07, 2020, 12:03:47 AM »
the problem I was thinking of is that the methods I use identify the predatory types but are also sure to include false positives

Your Turn / Re: Protecting Our Children
« on: July 06, 2020, 10:37:35 PM »
To be more on topic; after a pastor tried to groom me as his romantic target it caused me to not trust pastoral authority so much, especially with children. It is easy
 for a carnal minded person to feign interest in churchly matters and discerning who is doing this is tricky. Years later I learned some ways to spot them though, but I am afraid to discuss them here because I expect it would anger people.

Your Turn / Re: Protecting Our Children
« on: July 06, 2020, 10:31:07 PM »
Due to this one of the most used (and linked to) Lutheran websites on the tubes is going to expire this Thursday on 2020-07-09 01:39:23 UTC. Are you planning on taking it under your wing, or will it be gone for good?

Hi, I am looking for volunteers willing to code the Luther Timeline and Letters databases into Schema ( ). Google crawlers are capable of recognizing the hierarchy used by Schema and is feed it into Knowledge Graphs. If someone asks Google "What did Luther do in 1517?" questions answerable from the databases could then appear under the "People also ask" section: such as "When was the Heidelberg Disputation?"

The databases are currently underused. Because they are unusually complete, I believe this will take quite a bit of work. Respond to this thread if you are interested in contributing.

The databases:

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