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Your Turn / The Other Shoe Drops in England
« on: Today at 06:11:42 AM »
https://www.christiantoday.com/article/nhs.gender.clinic.facing.lawsuit.by.former.patients.for.medical.negligence/139053.htm

Culture proves once again that it has an accelerator and a break. We'll see how hard it applies the break. There was a student at OSU who had her body altered only to discover that she still struggled with identity and mental health. Lord, have mercy. Grant wisdom with patience.

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"She calls on one of the "prayer team" who reads a prayer from an iphone which doesn't address in any way the issue before the assembly, obviously written ahead of time, with a bunch of stuff about Mother Earth and Father Sky and dancing. Ugh. Can no one pray spontaneously?"

The earthodox skyrch at prayer? What would be in the spontaneous prayer?

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Your Turn / Re: Culture Wars at a Library
« on: August 08, 2022, 05:06:13 PM »
Since the thread is about libraries and their collection standards, I offer the following link:

https://libguides.ala.org/Standards

It states that the American Library Association no longer offers national standards. It offers guidelines for local libraries to collect in view of community standards.

Here is an article on the topic of book banning:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/books/2022/06/29/banned-books-explained/7772046001/

Now, an obvious target of banning would be white supremacy publications, such as Mein Kampf, and that would be broadly supported.

What about Charles Murray's The Bell Curve, which is widely protested?

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/the-real-problem-with-charles-murray-and-the-bell-curve/

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Luther's Sacristy Prayer (Pastoral Care Companion, p. xviii) pleads:

O Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, shepherd and bishop of our souls, send Your Holy Spirit that He may work with me to will and to do through Your divine strength according to Your good pleasure. Amen.

This petition is similar in thought to the one in the Great Litany.

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Your Turn / Re: Culture Wars at a Library
« on: August 07, 2022, 07:32:47 AM »
The article linked at the top of this page asserts: "Within a few months after Neely was hired, McMahon said, a patron whom she did not name — though others familiar with the matter, including Neely, have identified this person as the pastor’s wife — checked out several children’s books and refused to return them for a prolonged period of time." 

That's a lie.

Rolph, I noticed that the article mentioned a Lutheran Pastor Stephen Preus. Is he kin?

As I read the article, I wondered whether the events represented a divided board that stood behind the policies and the hiring. For example, given the tensions, hiring someone known to start a drag queen reading program seemed destined to raise tension rather than defuse.

Stephen Preus is my son.   

May the Lord bless and guide his service during such challenges.

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Your Turn / Re: Culture Wars at a Library
« on: August 06, 2022, 02:18:50 PM »
The article linked at the top of this page asserts: "Within a few months after Neely was hired, McMahon said, a patron whom she did not name — though others familiar with the matter, including Neely, have identified this person as the pastor’s wife — checked out several children’s books and refused to return them for a prolonged period of time." 

That's a lie.

Rolph, I noticed that the article mentioned a Lutheran Pastor Stephen Preus. Is he kin?

As I read the article, I wondered whether the events represented a divided board that stood behind the policies and the hiring. For example, given the tensions, hiring someone known to start a drag queen reading program seemed destined to raise tension rather than defuse.

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Your Turn / Re: Requiescat in pace J.A.O Preus III
« on: August 05, 2022, 07:29:50 PM »
Praise and thanks be to the Lord for his service and sound teaching. I appreciated him as a professor, noting this: often a student would ask a question; he would listen, then reply, "What's your real question?" to draw the student's thoughts out more clearly and get to a proper answer. Very helpful technique.

I also recall discussion of Chemnitz's Two Nature's in Christ. A great learning opportunity.

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Your Turn / Culture Wars at a Library
« on: August 05, 2022, 09:25:35 AM »
This was an interesting article about cultural challenges in a small community.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/small-town-library-shut-say-culture-wars-closed-rcna39816

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Your Turn / Re: Update On Vacant LCMS Parishes
« on: August 04, 2022, 06:50:58 AM »
The reference is to Justin Martyr, First Apology, para. 65. He wrote it in the mid-second century. It is one of the earliest descriptions of communion practice.

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Then bread and a cup of water and mixed wine are brought to the president of the brethren and he, taking them, sends up praise and glory to the Father of the universe through the name of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and offers thanksgiving at some length that we have been deemed worthy to receive these things from him. When he has finished the prayers and the thanksgiving, the whole congregation present assents, saying, "Amen." "Amen" in the Hebrew language means, "So be it." When the president has given thanks and the whole congregation has assented, those whom we call deacons give to each of those present a portion of the consecrated bread and wine and water, and they take it to the absent.

In the coming years, as the number of clergy declines, many congregations will have to rethink what they do and why. I visited with someone this week who described an NALC congregation on the westside, currently vacant and having thirty or so in attendance. I've heard of another church on that side of the city in a similar situation. Perhaps they can share a pastor.

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Your Turn / Re: Update On Vacant LCMS Parishes
« on: August 03, 2022, 07:16:06 PM »
Taking communion to the sick goes back at least to the second century. I believe it is Justin Martyr who mentions the practice. The presiding minister consecrated the elements at the divine service and oversaw their distribution.  After service, deacons took the Sacrament to the homebound, if memory serves.

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In looking at the 2019 Book of Common Prayer, it seems to me that the parallel line is in the preceding petition:

The current edition of the Book of Common Prayer was published in 1979.

There are textual differences between the 1544 version of the Great Litany and the current BCP version. I also noticed that the version in Luther's Works 53 is different from those in Lutheran hymnals. I'm wondering how the text was sourced in both the Lutheran and Anglican traditions, since both seem to have changed over time. Perhaps the Liturgical Movement caused both to update their texts.

In any event, the translation "Your Word" in the Lutheran hymnals seems misleading, making one think of Scripture rather than preaching/proclamation.

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Here is the parallel petition in the 1544 BCP:

That it maye please the to gyve all thy people increase of grace, to here mekelye thy worde, and to receive it with pure affection, and to brynge forth the fruites of the spirit:

http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/Litany1544/Litany_1544.htm

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I found a German Lutheran version online. For context I include the preceding petition, and provide a translation:

"Treue Arbeiter in Deine Ernte senden,
Deinen Geist und Kraft zum Worte geben"

"Send true/loyal workers into Your harvest, Give Your Spirit and power to the word/message"

Based on this version and context, the Word is not Holy Scripture but the proclamation of the workers. This would be more consistent with Luther's understanding of proclamation, which is different from Holy Scripture, which he viewed as effective of itself (Isaiah 55:12). The preacher speaks for God and may rightly pray for His Spirit. Cf. Luther's version of the prayer/hymn, Come, Holy Spirit, God and Lord!

Here's where I found the text:
https://hymnary.org/hymn/EG1911/32

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