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Your Turn / Re: Changing Lifestyles Of American Adults
« on: Yesterday at 10:40:43 AM »
Terry W Culler writes:
Is it possible that the relatively low percentage of people living together without formal marriage reflects something else--the narcissism that seems so common among younger people who have grown up with the isolating force of modern tech?

I comment:
I believe it is possible that the generation younger than mine simply concluded that the lifestyle we consider “traditional marriage,“ was not working very well, lost its divine mandate, created a tremendous amount of hypocrisy and pain, existed primarily for social and monetary reasons, and had a too narrow definition of sexuality. A good number of those concluding  this were members of our congregations, believing Christians, and, as they rejected the idea of a six-day creation, rejected some other aspects of the type of Christianity they have been taught, made their decisions about how they should live as Christians.

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: Yesterday at 10:32:01 AM »
The move against Dr. Fauci began when, despite his diplomacy and attempt to keep out of the fray, it became evident that he was not on the side of The Ex with regard to the response to the pandemic. He did not look up with adoring eyes when the then president was speaking, and it became evident in his interviews, that he did not fully agree with what was being said from that august podium.
Then the attacks on him and his advice and even his standing in the job he had held for decades began.
And BTW, every medical doctor is not equal to every other medical doctor. Some medical doctors, it is possible, may not to be considered equal to the nurses that work alongside of them.
Lineup careers, reputations in the field of immunology and virology, standings in the larger community of medical science and then decide who you want to trust. You got somebody better than Dr. Fauci? Let me see their CV. Let me see to what extent their views are slanted by political or social alignments.
And I’ll say it one more time. Science evolves. If a scientist says one thing in April and then has a different take on the matter in November, it is because new things have been learned between April and November. It is not that they lied in April.

Your Turn / Re: Islamophobia
« on: Yesterday at 12:48:35 AM »
Maybe I wasn't clear on the whole of the matter. I personally, me, myself, believe that Nadia Murad should speak anywhere she wants to speak and I have no doubt she has many invitations. Good.
But I also understand why a school board or local area might decide she is not an appropriate speaker for that crowd.
But the update says she may speak to the Toronto students, so perhaps Fox news was too eager to find another example of "cancel culture."

Your Turn / Re: Changing Lifestyles Of American Adults
« on: Yesterday at 12:04:16 AM »
Dana Lockhart, in my last 15-18 active years of parish ministry, I don't think I had one couple come seeking marriage who were not already living together. Or, in conversations about their life and activities, it was at least clear that they were taking vacations together in what we would consider romantic locations. I've asked other pastors in this modest forum about their experiences with such couples, but have not received any answers or explanations. Maybe they never encounter such couples. But I doubt it.

Your Turn / Re: Islamophobia
« on: November 28, 2021, 11:58:43 PM »
Missed it again, Pastor Kirchner.
Let me be more clear.
What the woman experienced under Islamic extremism was unjust, terrible and an abomination.
What prisoners at Guantanamo was let us stipulate, just, not as bad as being tortured and raped and not an abomination.
STILL, neither the woman nor the prisoners of the US are likely to speak in an objective way about who gave them those experiences nor are they likely to have a balanced view of the belief and/or governmental system under which they had those experiences.
Good grief, we have to strain hard here for some common sense!

Your Turn / Re: Islamophobia
« on: November 28, 2021, 09:39:10 PM »
I am not making a case for the equivalency of the two situations. I’m only saying that someone who comes out of either of those experiences is not likely to speak kindly or a balanced way of the perpetrator, whether or not that balance is merited.

Your Turn / Re: Islamophobia
« on: November 28, 2021, 09:14:20 PM »
Pastor Kirchner:
… perhaps her presentation addresses Islam in general.

….and perhaps the last guy released from Guantanamo is giving speeches addressing American Justice “in general.”

Your Turn / Re: Islamophobia
« on: November 28, 2021, 06:19:42 PM »
Does it occur to anyone that a speaker who has been personally and severely victimized, tortured, and raped by Islamic extremists might not be the best speaker for a gathering of school students, for some of whom this might be their first experience with Islam? Students should learn about Islam in general not at its worst.

Your Turn / Re: Changing Lifestyles Of American Adults
« on: November 28, 2021, 03:00:31 PM »
I just thought that more than 9% of the adults of that age group would be cohabiting.

Your Turn / Re: Changing Lifestyles Of American Adults
« on: November 28, 2021, 01:30:33 PM »
I am surprised that the cohabiting statistics are so low.

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: November 27, 2021, 12:41:56 PM »
Understanding this humble correspondent is not the purpose of this forum. Stick to the issues.

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: November 27, 2021, 12:27:48 PM »
My governor did not order a halt to elective surgeries. Hospital management did that.
My complaint has to do with the fact that it is the unvaccinated people, now sick, who taking up the hospital rooms, including post-op and ICU. . Ppostponing my elective surgery is difficult, painful and may mean I have to be in a wheelchair for a time but it is not life threatening. some other things for other people could be much more difficult.
But in the grand scheme of things, what we small few think here about the situation doesn’t mean very much

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: November 27, 2021, 10:34:54 AM »
Again, Peter, if it turns out this is not a dangerous situation, what is being done is difficult but not a catastrophe. On the other hand, if what is being done turns out to be the smartest, safest thing to do,  it would limit the spread of the virus and everybody wins.
BTW, and folks do not like to hear me say this, but better that action than what was done by your guy, now The Ex, at the beginning of the pandemic, which was, in effect, nothing.

Your Turn / Re: Fear Is Deadlier Than Viruses
« on: November 27, 2021, 09:04:21 AM »
Mr. Garner, you do understand that we are likely to speak differently when we are talking to an individual, trying to persuade him to accept the vaccination? I was so gentle with one distant relative who was refusing the vaccination that I hardly recognized myself in the conversation. What finally convinced this person? They planned a trip to Iceland, and proof of vaccination was required.
And Peter seems to make a great leap,, probably the great leap of all great leaps. He thinks that if there is a mandates to get vaccinated pretty soon that will be mandates on what to eat for breakfast. It’s the old domino theory again.
P.S. I have been an avid skier, in the French and Swiss Alps, on East Coast bullet-proof ice, and in the Rockies. Tens of thousands of us get hurt. I never did, despite my foolishness in trying to keep up with my European friends. Do our broken bones, torn ACL’s, and Occasional death constitute a public health crisis? I don’t think so.
But refusing vaccinations…

P.S. “The Naked Elitist” would be a good book title.

Your Turn / Re: Fear Is Deadlier Than Viruses
« on: November 27, 2021, 08:51:52 AM »
Can someone restate for us, perhaps again, the reason for these attempts to justify refusing vaccinations and to minimize the effects of the pandemic, and to cast doubt on the efficacy of the vaccines and the other efforts to mitigate the effects of the disease? Why is that being done?
Vaccines are indeed mandated for many many things in our country. Presumably those mandates have been tested in the courts.
What is different now?
What basic human rights are at stake? What about our experts makes them so subject to suspicion?
P. S. I can understand why some minorities might be skeptical of the vaccines. They have reasons in their history.

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