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Messages - Charles Austin

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: Today at 09:37:42 AM »
The “wait-and-see” attitude is fine when it comes to what will eventually happen to The Ex. However, we cannot ignore the impact that his actions, words, and presence are having on the political scene. In that context, discussion about the legal and moral issues surrounding him is absolutely essential.

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Your Turn / Re: Kathryn Tanner books
« on: Yesterday at 06:19:14 PM »
Or maybe, Peter, as we search Scripture for care of the earth advice, for example, we find that it is there. And we apply what we find our current situation.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: Yesterday at 04:16:43 PM »
Peter:
According to the defense, Trump gave a standing order as POTUS that classified documents be declassified when taken to his home because he worked from there quite often, and the POTUS has the ultimate authority on such classifications.
Me:
No, he does not.

Peter:
By design, nobody in government can keep secrets from the Commander-in-Chief. These documents were kept secure by the Secret Service. So it is at least possible that from a legal perspective (I'm no expert, but neither are you) that your salivations over "top secret documents" will turn out to be yet another over-hyped yawner.
Me:
Legal experts are not yawning.

Peter:
You keep swallowing nothingburgers and get hungrier and hungrier for more. Now, if it turns out that Trump was hiding crucial national security info or allowing it to be compromised, that there is a story here.
Me:
The AG is concerned. Not a deal?

Peter:
Not denying the possibility that there is a wolf this time.
Me:
Oh.

Peter:
But Occam's Razor would suggest there isn't, and that should be any rational person's default assumption on matters of, "We've got the goods on Trump! He's going down!"
Me:
Not that hopeful, am I.  And Occam gave lousy shaves.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: Yesterday at 12:18:55 PM »
We know they found top-secret documents in his Florida home.
We know they weren’t supposed to be there.
We know the government asked for them back for over a year.
We know that some documents were returned and others weren’t.
We know that some of the documents go to the classification which is higher than top secret.
We know that some deal with national defense.
We know that The Ex lied about Obama and White House files.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 08:31:24 PM »
Terry Culler writes:
 but somehow it's all a function of the former president's narcissistic personality.

I muse:
Other aspects of his personality include greed, the desire to "be" worshipped and the almost obsessive engagement in shady deals designed to make him money. So we should worry when he or his minions toy around with national security secrets. "Just keep these things in the basement in Palm Beach. Who knows when they might become 'useful'?"
 

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 07:18:03 PM »
And now we know the type of documents sought and found and some, not all, of the laws that may have been violated.
Why would boxes and boxes of top secret documents be removed from the White House, partially returned and then not returned when asked to do so? And what would someone no longer in office want to do with them?

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2022 ELCA Churchwide Assembly / Re: Plenary 7 Friday morning
« on: August 12, 2022, 06:29:17 PM »
It is not hubris, it is simply inept language. (Unless, of course, you are looking for reasons to be snarky.) The statement should’ve read “in an attempt” to keep everyone safe. The “attempt“ was implied. Should’ve been said.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 01:12:13 PM »
Do you have examples in mind, Peter? The FBI investigated Ms. Clinton’s emails.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 12:22:23 PM »
Fortunately, you’re too partisan for jury duty.
But a true patriot would recognize that “their guy or gal” might do something wrong.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 12:05:13 PM »
Which ignores the point that the issue at hand is what is going on today not but may or may not have gone on in the past.
If the end of his term Biden walks off with a top-secret documents that he takes home to Delaware, I’m in favor of having his ass in jail too.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 11:28:08 AM »
I think it is generally understood that taking those boxes from the White House to his personal residence outside of office is already a criminal concern.

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: August 12, 2022, 09:46:34 AM »
Yes, Pastor Kirchner, yours is the fever dream of the Fox-viewing people.
Do you propose that the justice department not follow the law? Not seek out the national security threat? Not pursue the obvious flaunting of the presidential records act?
And does The Ex have such a control on the Republican Party that the law and order party is now sounding like the Weathermen of the 1960s?

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2022 ELCA Churchwide Assembly / Re: Plenary 6 Thursday afternoon
« on: August 12, 2022, 04:46:46 AM »
And, Deacon Shelley, I would wager that there are among your wrath-fleeing clergy and laity various views on subjects as theologically hot as the two natures of Christ and whence they came, marriage and sexuality that are not fully resolved or unified by ancient councils, liturgy or hymnody.

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2022 ELCA Churchwide Assembly / Re: Plenary 4 Wednesday afternoon
« on: August 10, 2022, 10:39:37 PM »
Good grief! The issue is who did we throw out not what they might have done.

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2022 ELCA Churchwide Assembly / Re: Plenary 3 Wednesday morning
« on: August 10, 2022, 11:29:47 AM »
“Doctrine“ in that phrase is not used in an ecclesiastical setting.

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