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Your Turn / Re: Questions About 8 ELCA Seminaries
« on: January 22, 2014, 10:41:21 AM »
Tim notes: While y'all were "enjoying" your snow shoveling, I was debating between an 8 or 9 iron from 130-yards with a light breeze.

...and now we know where all the men have gone.... ;)

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Your Turn / Re: communing everyone
« on: January 21, 2014, 09:37:31 AM »
Don't forget that the 2013 ELCA Assembly authorized a review of the document "Use of the Means of Grace" to address just this discussion. See also this blog from the originator of this memorial:

http://www.elca.org/en/Living-Lutheran/Blogs/2013/08/~/link.aspx?_id=D96758D3EDDA43DFBF8D68C402621A70&_z=z

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Your Turn / Re: Questions About 8 ELCA Seminaries
« on: January 19, 2014, 07:33:43 AM »
The ELCA underwent a deep study of Theological Education (headed by Dr. Phyllis Anderson) in the early 1990s which concluded that 8 seminaries would not be viable in the future. There was a recommendation that "clusters" be formed and educational responsibilities be divided up among the entities. (a crude summary, but I remember it that way - I was on a seminary board at that time).

The reality, in my experience, was that the seminaries instead engaged in entrenchment and were seeking to stake out their territories, so to speak, in order to NOT be merged/purged out of existence. You don't hear much about the clusters anymore. I don't see that the recommendations bore too much fruit.

I thought there was a lot of common sense in the report and recommendations. But that is just MHO. I think Mr. Austin demonstrates similar common sense in his well-received thoughts, above.

I couldn't find the report online. I did find a document from ATS which summarizes the document and surveys what happened after it came to the 1993 assembly.

http://www.ats.edu/uploads/resources/publications-presentations/theological-education/2000-theological-education-v36-sup.pdf

Perhaps this will contribute to the discussion.

Donna

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Your Turn / Re: Questions About 8 ELCA Seminaries
« on: January 18, 2014, 04:32:54 PM »
Frankly, if the numbers in 2013 of ELCA + LCMC + NALC is greater than the ELCA in 2008, I'd be very happy. We are to grow the kingdom of God, not our denominations.


Indeed.
Neither the LCMC nor the NALC have published numbers, so it is hard to know. It is telling, though, that 2 denominations who like to shout about how they are about "making disciples" don't seem to have any way of tracking that.

Looks like the NALC is showing 130,000 members.
http://thenalc.org/about-us-2/

Welcome back Pr Donna!

Just in time for me to pull the plug once for all, as many others before me have done.

Don't go, Jeff!!! I was looking for someone who might agree with me that "making disciples"  might not be measured, primarily, in numbers and percentages...!

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Your Turn / Re: Questions About 8 ELCA Seminaries
« on: January 18, 2014, 09:54:59 AM »
Frankly, if the numbers in 2013 of ELCA + LCMC + NALC is greater than the ELCA in 2008, I'd be very happy. We are to grow the kingdom of God, not our denominations.


Indeed.
Neither the LCMC nor the NALC have published numbers, so it is hard to know. It is telling, though, that 2 denominations who like to shout about how they are about "making disciples" don't seem to have any way of tracking that.

Looks like the NALC is showing 130,000 members.
http://thenalc.org/about-us-2/

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