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Messages - Norman Teigen

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Here is an interesting workshop on Bach's Cantata 86 which is consistent with this thread.  'Truly, truly I say to you, whatever you ask of the Father, in My name, so will it be given to you.'   (Ich will doch wohl Rosen Gretchen....)   "I will yet indeed pluck roses, even if they prick me with thorn.   For I have confidence That my prayers and my pleading go straight to the heart of God, because he gave me His word (Weil es mir sein Wort verspricht.). The beautiful concluding chorale contains the thought that "Hope awaits the right time, which God's word has promised...He knows well when would be best, and uses no cruel tricks on us;  therefore we should trust him.  (Des solln wir ihm vertrauen.)

If you cannot take time for the lesson go to:

Beweis dein Macht, Herr Jesu Christ,
Der du Herr aller Herren bist
(Reveal your strength, Lord Jesus Christ,
You who are Lord of Lords)
Beschirm dein arme Christenheit.
Dass sie dich lob in Ewigkeit.
(protect your poor Christianity,
so that it praises You in eternity.)

I am reminded of a profound prayer for the church from the work of J.S. Bach.  His cantata for Easter 2 (BWV 6) is based on the interaction between Christ and the disciples on the Road to Emmaus.  "Stay with us, for evening falls, and the day has declined." The German text is"Bleib  bei uns, denn  es  will Abend werden, und Der Tag hat such geneiget."  The imagery of the deepening day is broadened to a consideration of the Last Times.   The prayer is that "Your divine Word, the bright light, let it not be extinguished among us."  "In dieser letzt'n  betrubten Zeit/ Verleih uns, Herr, Bestandigkeit, (In these last troubled times/grant us Lord, perseverance). Dass wir dein Wort und Sakrament/ Rein b'halted bis an Unser End.  (that we may preserve Your word and sacrament pure until our end.)

Your Turn / Re: Chauvin Trial and verdict
« on: May 02, 2021, 07:21:34 AM »
From the Washington Post:   "If there was a sense of relief after a jury convicted former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin of the murder of George Floyd, it was short-lived. Seems like every day in this country, there is another new ó usually Black ó person brutalized by police; another new video showing disturbing and dehumanizing actions by those who have sworn to protect and serve. The legitimacy of policing is being challenged in ways never seen before, and that underscores the urgency of reform. Not only will it better safeguard the public, but it also will help the majority of officers who do their jobs lawfully and conscientiously.
"Much of the work to be done must be done at the local and state levels. But Congress needs to do its part: In his address Wednesday night, President Biden called on Congress to pass a police reform bill no later than May 25, which will mark the one year since the death of Floyd. The House for the second time passed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act in March, mostly along party lines, but it remains stalled in the Senate, where "Republicans favor a competing plan by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) that is narrower in scope.

Your Turn / Re: Chauvin Trial and verdict
« on: April 27, 2021, 01:35:05 PM »

There is a legal doctrine which is worthy of consideration in this context.  These issues deal with the problem of  'split second decisions.'

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: April 25, 2021, 09:40:16 AM »
Well, Pastor E., I am not in a position to advice or even suggest.  I respect your office and your position.  If another member of my church would ask my opinion, I would suggest vaccinations and masking.   From a medical information perspective, it 'pays' or it 'works' to vaccinate and wear a mask.  From a Lutheran-Christian perspective I would advise the reluctant to think of her neighbor, to serve him in love.

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: April 25, 2021, 07:14:06 AM »
Resistance to vaccinations and the wearing of masks might be labeled as  therapeutic nihilism. It'd hard to overcome.

Your Turn / Re: Chauvin Trial and verdict
« on: April 21, 2021, 01:11:49 PM »
The Mississippi River is a geographic thread that ties together Dred Scott and George Floyd.  In St. Louis, the United States Supreme Court said that Dred Scott was not a legal person, that as a black man he wasn't entitled to the full protection of law. In Minneapolis,  the Chauvin v. State of Minnesota trial  affirmed that a black man did have importance, that black lives do matter, that George Floyd, as a human being, mattered.

Your Turn / Chauvin Trial and verdict
« on: April 20, 2021, 05:32:57 PM »
KYRIE ELEISON.  What does it mean?  There are issues here. Lord have mercy.

Your Turn / Re: America is a Pagan Nation - Now What?
« on: April 19, 2021, 07:24:59 PM »
I would propose that what is now happening in Minneapolis will have a profound effect on the American culture.  This will also have an effect on American religion.

Your Turn / Re: Diet of Worms Anniversary-1521
« on: April 13, 2021, 08:25:23 PM »
Luther appealed to conscience at the Diet of Worms.  Professor Heiko Oberman discusses the matter of conscience for the Reformer.    "Appealing to conscience was common medieval practice; appealing to a 'free' conscience that had liberated itself from all bonds would never have occurred to Luther.  Nor did he regard 'conscience'  identical with the inescapable voice of God in man.  Conscience  is neither neutral nor autonomous: hotly contested by God and the Devil, it is not the autonomous center of man's personality, it is always guided and is free only once God has freed and 'captured' it.  What is new in Luther is the notion of absolute obedience to the Scripture against any authorities; be they popes or councils.  The way Luther dislodges the Christian conscience  from its individual, immediate proximity to God and integrates it into the obligation to heed reasonable world and historical experience is innovative.  Faith is not founded on reason:  God's omnipotence transcends reason and the cross of Christ contradicts it.  Actions, on the other hand, must be able to stand the test of reason and experience because their sole objective is service to one's neighbor, there no room here for justification or self-sanctfiication.  Luther liberated the Christian conscience, liberated it from papal decree and canon law.   But he also took it captive through the Word of God and imposed on it  the responsibility to render service to the world."   Heiko  Oberman, 'Luther. Man Between God and the Devil'; Yale University Press, 1989.  p. 204

Your Turn / Re: Diet of Worms Anniversary-1521
« on: April 11, 2021, 06:32:07 AM »
There are many resources available for studying the Diet of Worms, Luther and Conscience. I have chosen to start here:

What did 'conscience' mean to Luther?  What did ''Religion' mean to Luther? What did 'conscience' mean to the Roman Catholic Church?  What did 'conscience' mean to the other Reformers?  Is there a secular understanding of 'conscience' apart from religious considerations?  Asking for a friend.

Your Turn / Diet of Worms Anniversary-1521
« on: April 10, 2021, 05:27:51 AM »
 Luther arrives in Worms on April 16. I will be brushing up on my church history this week.  Any thoughts?  Special reading recommendations would be appreciated.

Your Turn / Re: Equality Act
« on: March 21, 2021, 09:11:33 AM »
I have read President Harrison on this subject and followed his reading suggestion on the LCMS discussion by the Commission on Theology and Church Relations.  Now I am reading the ELCA 2017 Statement on Human Rights.

The subject is worthy of serious discussion.  The two Lutheran church bodies view the subject in different ways. This is a delicate matter for those of us who have family members in different Lutheran churches.  How do we deal with each other in love when we have different institutional affiliations?

Your Turn / Re: Seminary Education
« on: March 09, 2021, 11:45:42 AM »
As a pew sitter I must acknowledge how the times are changing.  Pastor Austin wrote this:  "Pastors prepared for greater service in the world will be teaching members how the gospel enables everyone to reach out and engage in the needs of the world, not just their own spiritual lives. This is a different image than the view that the pastor is primarily the spiritual leader of a congregation.

"New pastors, trained for this kind of outreach, may meet resistance in congregations that see the leaderís role as primarily providing care within the church walls. Those new pastors will need to have the leadership skills to handle opposition.

"But itís vital to the spiritual health of congregations and the whole ELCA, said one participant, that churches focus on missions and ministries that extend beyond the walls of individual congregations.

"Said another respondent: 'I believe we are being called to create ways in which seekers/nones/the lapsed can gain an experience of the living God. I believe we are being called to find new ways to create genuine community.' "

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