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Your Turn / Re: Calm
« on: Today at 06:55:33 PM »
In 2001, the LCMS had 2,554,088 Baptized Members
In 2021, the LCMS had 1,807,408 Baptized Members

That is a loss of about 747,000 Baptized Members in 20 years.

Bottom Line:  Fewer members make less noise and it is now calmer.

Your Turn / Re: Juneteenth
« on: June 20, 2022, 09:45:40 AM »
It is a thrilling sight to see the ticker tape parade route through
the Canyon of Heroes in New York City.  It is along Broadway
from Bowling Green to City Hall Park.  This has been a majestic
tribute to the New York Yankees who have won 27 World Series
and been honored with this parade. At the end of the parade the
mayor gives the Yankees the key to the city.

Your Turn / Re: Juneteenth
« on: June 18, 2022, 12:16:32 PM »
I once heard a LCMS pastor begin his sermon:

Today is a preacher's dilemma. It is Mother's Day, Pentecost Sunday,
and Armed Forces Remembrance Day.  However, I think that I work
them all into this sermon.

These words were spoken by my vicarage supervisor in 1967.

Your Turn / Re: Christian life, Church, and Mission
« on: June 18, 2022, 09:25:06 AM »
Bishop Benke's mention of Turmvereins jogged my boyhood memories.
I was born and raised in Davenport, Iowa which had 3 Turner Halls for
fitness and gymnastic centers.  They were located in 1888 in Central
Davenport, in 1891 in East Davenport and in 1892 in Northwest Davenport.

In the 1950's our family home in East Davenport was about 3 to 4 blocks
from a Turner Hall.  The German aspect was not present but I remember
going there to play volleyball, basketball, and bounce on the trampoline.
Next to the Turner Hall was Lindsay Park with swings, seesaws, tennis
courts and a lighted softball diamond for fast-pitch softball leagues.
They had bleachers on the first base and third base sidelines. The entire
25 acre park overlooked the majestic Mississippi River

Bottom Line:
By the 1960's the Turner Hall had become a social place for men to play cards,
drink beer and watch men wrestling matches in a roped ring with a referee.
It eventually closed and was resurrected as a Village Theatre for plays and
concerts in 2012.

Your Turn / Re: Succession, Calls, and Vetting of Would-be Pastors
« on: June 17, 2022, 10:34:54 AM »
The changing demographics of LCMS seminarians has given us fewer men
who are sons of pastors.  Today, we have  more men who are sons of laymen.
This could be a fresh wind blowing across the LCMS.  We have less chance of
a negative attitude from seminarians who were raised in a parsonage.  Some
of my classmates felt the pressure to perform because their father was a
well-known LCMS pastor. 

I had the son of Dr. Oswald Hoffmann in my homiletics  class at Concordia
Seminary, St. Louis.  He felt there was no way to compete against his father's
reputation.  He ended up spending his career as a teacher at a Lutheran High
School.  I had three other classmates who had influential fathers in the LCMS
and they ended up dropping out of the system.

In my dorm room at Concordia High School, Milwaukee we had 6 students
and only 2 of us were sons of a layman.  We were 9th and 10th graders.
I was the son of a layman and the only one out of those six who became
a parish pastor.  The family business concept never entered my mind as
I went through the LCMS System.

Your Turn / Re: Succession, Calls, and Vetting of Would-be Pastors
« on: June 16, 2022, 11:03:19 AM »
The examination & vetting of LCMS seminary students as candidates
for ordination is an important topic.  Currently, there are two things
that are needed: 1) A certificate that one is qualified for ordination to
the holy office of the word and sacraments  2) a diploma with the degree
of Master of Divinity.  Both of these documents are issued by the faculty
of the seminary.

How involved the faculty is concerning the certificate of qualification for
ordination can vary from decade to decade.  When Concordia Seminary,
St. Louis had 150 candidates for the call process it was probably less intensive
than when they have only 50 candidates for a call.

Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: June 15, 2022, 09:00:55 PM »
In my lifetime, the U.S.Supreme Court made abortion and homosexual marriage legal.
Yet, according to the morality of God's 10 commandments they are not morally right.
To murder a human life in the mother's womb is murder.  Unless, marriage is between
a man and a woman, it is an abomination to the Lord as well as adultery.  Adultery
can be defined as being unfaithful to God's purpose for sexual relationships.

Your Turn / Re: Succession, Calls, and Vetting of Would-be Pastors
« on: June 14, 2022, 12:05:10 PM »
Some Mega-Churches hand over the head-pastor position to the son
of the founder:

Robert Schuller gave his position to his son Robert Jr. and eventually
The Crystal Cathedral went bankrupt.

Joel Osteen took over his father's church when he died & the rest is history.

Jimmy Swaggart has given his son Donnie the position of head pastor as
he eases into retirement.

John Hagee is also grooming his son Matthew to replace him as he eases
into retirement at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas

These Mega-Churches listed above have seen their church as a family business
which the son inherits.  This is not a good model to follow.

Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: June 12, 2022, 04:36:26 PM »
Thanks Don for sharing the contents of the collection of essays edited by Pless.

Here are 3 theologians listed who greatly influenced Lutheranism in the 20th Century
by some of the books they wrote:

Anders Nygren...."Agape & Eros" and Commentary on Romans
Edmund Schlink..."Theology of the Lutheran Confessions" and "The Doctrine of Baptism"
Hermann Sasse...."We Confess Trilogy: Jesus Christ, The Church, This is My Body"

Your Turn / Re: cur alii prae aliis
« on: June 10, 2022, 07:27:47 PM »
@Brian......There was a study released in the LCMS in the 1980's
about the direct correlation between an 8th grade youth confirmand
and their parish involvement during their high school years.

It was reported that the key component was both of the parents
being actively involved in the congregation. This included weekly
worship, adult Bible class, serving on various parish boards and
committees. This is most certainly true as I have witnessed active
high school youth in our parish. The parents set a good example
and their children are willing to follow them.

Your Turn / Re: In Memoriam: Horace D. Hummel
« on: June 02, 2022, 02:08:05 PM »
Three of Dr. Horace Hummel's books are in my library.

"The Word Becoming Flesh" Old Testament Introduction, CPH, 1979
Concordia Commentary: Ezkekiel 1-20, and Ezkekiel 21-48, CPH, 2005

Hummel was one of the best O.T. scholars in the LCMS and did an excellent
job of sharing his love for God's Word with seminarians & parish pastors.

Your Turn / Re: VBS
« on: May 31, 2022, 01:39:03 PM »
In our suburban community we held VBS during the first week of August.
In June, many kids are tired of school and want to relax.  In July, many
families were on vacation as Caterpillar Inc. shut down for two weeks.
In August the mothers were anxious to get their children back in the routine
for getting up and going to school.

We held VBS in the mornings from 9am to 11:30am Monday thru Friday.
Our parish had plenty of women available to teach the classes, help with
crafts, music, and recreation.  Most of our staff consisted of public school
teachers who had the summer off.

Bottom Line: VBS is still an outstanding opportunity for evangelism in the
community to  reach out to the unchurched.


Your Turn / Re: Pelosi barred from taking communion
« on: May 20, 2022, 09:12:04 PM »
Catechism Of The Catholic Church, 1994.

Abortion:  2271..."Since the first century the Church has affirmed the moral
evil of every procured abortion.  This teaching has not changed and remains
unchangeable. Direct abortion, that is to say, abortion willed either as an end
or a means, is gravely contrary to the moral law. (5th Commandment)

2274..."Since it must be treated from conception as a person, the embryo
must be defended in its integrity, cared for. healed, as far as possible, like
any other human being."

In the article "The Death and Life of Italian Families"

1975.....New Family Law: abolished marital authority, suppressed the duty of
children to honor their parents, abolished adultery as grounds for separation.
1978.....Abortion became legal
2009.....Liberalization of RU 486 Abortion pill
2015.....Liberalization of the morning after pill for abortion
2016.....Homosexual unions became legal
2017.....Quick divorce became legal

Currently the Italian government is debating a law which would give legal protection
to gender identity even if not corresponding to biological sexual identity as the person
completes the transition.

Your Turn / Re: Prayer service for Concordia University-Wisconsin
« on: May 20, 2022, 10:08:48 AM »
Rev. Dr. Jamison Hardy is one of the three finalists:

He got his BA from Concordia University Wisconsin in 1996.
and his MDiv from Concordia Seminary, Ft. Wayne.  In 2021
he received the Distinguished Alumnus Award from CUW.
Since 2015 he has been President of the LCMS English District
as well as a parish pastor in Michigan.

Dr. Erik Ankerberg is one of the three finalists"
He is currently the Provost at Concordia University Chicago

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