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Your Turn / Re: Why is the forum broken?
« on: October 24, 2015, 07:31:12 PM »
totally broken in Safari and Chrome (on Mac OS X (10.10.4)

Your Turn / Re: A Church Torn Apart
« on: October 05, 2015, 06:44:29 PM »
Actually, I think that any pastor who "handles" congregational money is foolish. I never do. I do not sign checks; I have no access to savings accounts, I do not count offerings, I do not handle money. I have access to a small, confidential "pastor's discretionary fund," but the amount is not large and if I use it I report it to the treasurer and the council president.
I do this for two reasons, maybe three.
1. I am not good at accounting and numbers.
2. Handling a congregation's finances is a fine job for a lay person.
3. If you never handle money, you can never be accused of mishandling money.

Excellent advice- should be taught as part of official seminary curriculum.
This is officially taught in our seminary (American Lutheran Theological Seminary)

Your Turn / Re: The Most Influential Seminary Professor?
« on: May 22, 2015, 06:41:47 PM »
For me, Jonathan Grothe, superb exegete. But I also had the pleasure of serving a vacancy with him for 2 years (my 4th year and STM). Learned about how a man can be a scholar and a faithful, humble pastor.

Others: Lou Brighton, Won Jong Ji, Erich Kiehl, and David Daniels.

Your Turn / Re: Non-parish activities
« on: April 18, 2015, 06:01:14 PM »
guitar playing (for 53 years)

reading (history, mystery/crime/detective, mathematics, theological books, yes even for fun)

computer work, keeping up with latest advances in some areas of computer technology

walking, when time allows

Your Turn / Re: Responsive Passion According to St. Mark
« on: March 25, 2015, 01:54:35 PM »
What I'D like to see are some sermons on Matthew 27:51Ė53...
I have preached on that text a couple times over the past decade.

Your Turn / Re: Bible Studies at My Church
« on: January 20, 2015, 01:24:47 AM »
Within 2 years of beginning pastoral service I found that using prepared studies didnít work for me.

For Sunday morning Bible study, we study books of the Bible, usually a one page outline of the book to introduce the book. Then it is discussion of the text (often leading to extended discussion of specific topics). But it sometimes takes us a while. We started in September 2011 in Matthew. We are currently in Matthew 24. This is the one class I also allow any question on any topic at the beginning of class. Sometimes the questions require 1-2 Sundays before we can move on.

I was one of the 70 pastors who introduced LifeLight back in 1989. One piece that was missing was an overview of the OT and NT. So, I designed two studies in 1990, Survey of the OT and Survey of the NT, each 12 weeks in length to follow the LifeLight patten. I have taught them in several congregations several times since 1990 and also allowed other pastors to use them as well.

I produced an extended study of Exodus in the mid 1990s, which I have taught three times (the class takes 40 weeks).

For Adult Instruction, I prepared a study of the Catechism, called Basics of the Christian Faith, but did so as a Bible study (listing only references, not the text of the references). The goal is two fold: they have to read/study the Bible, and it gives them some familiarity with using it. In many cases we have people coming into the church who have never read the Bible, donít know what chapter and verse numbers are, donít know the content, etc. Thus, they learn the content of the Bible (and hence Small Catechism) and they learn to use the Bible. Typically the class is 1Ĺ hours, and lasts ~26 weeks. In one church for 7 straight years we were taking in an average of 17 new members every year. About week 18, the people are asking what they can study next. Usually we introduce them to the Surveys of the OT and NT.

I encourage members to take the class with newcomers, thus building in assimilation through Bible study and interactions. And as they grow, mature, they come with new questions about the faith that five years earlier they had not considered.

In one congregation at the seven year mark we had 200 out of 250 in weekly Bible study.

Your Turn / Re: On Mourning and Grief
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:38 AM »

Aye, you can anticipate and prepare for the holidays and the birthdays and the anniversary of death, but you can't prepare for the song playing on the store Muzak or the scent that smell's like mom's cooking or a million other things.
I didn't express any emotion when my father died. But four months later I was driving on the interstate and a country song came on the radio that instantly brought my father to mind. I was crying so hard I had to pull over to the side of the interstate (no exits for miles) because I could not see the road through the tears. Took me a while to deal with that.

Your Turn / Re: On Mourning and Grief
« on: January 13, 2015, 12:09:22 PM »

We have two adopted sons from Korea.  One is still with us and very much a part of the family while the other had a parentectomy in the mid-90s.  We haven't seen the missing son for nearly a quarter of a century.

We are fortunate to be members of a lively Christian community of faith.
We seem to have walked a similar path.

Our two sons are from Korea (they are brothers), that we adopted when they were 8 and 6 years old (in 1978). The older one never became part of our family emotionally, and he is the missing one. It was a very lonely time from 1980 to 1998. The younger son has been a wonderful part of our family, and he and DIL have five children.

Your Turn / Re: On Mourning and Grief
« on: January 13, 2015, 02:11:01 AM »
For pastoral care, a basic guide is Pastoral Care under the Cross, by Richard Eyer (CPH).

For personal care, I found Hearing Jesus Speak into Your Sorrow by Nancy Guthrie.

Depending on the loss, it may never come to closure. We have only seen our older son once in the last 17 years (7 years ago). We don't know whether he is alive or dead. We began having trouble with him in 1980, and life deteriorated dramatically with prison, psychiatric hospitals, and several near death experiences until he went missing in 1998. Closure is not in our vocabulary. Day-by-day dependence on God's mercy is our only lifeline. Nancy Guthrie (and husband David) had two children die at six months, three years apart. Compelling story, she spoke at our Pastors' Conference in 2010.

May God grant You His blessings, love, care, and support in this process.

Your Turn / Re: vestment/parament help
« on: November 27, 2014, 02:27:53 PM »
Don't tell them you are color blind unless you are. Be honest about the challenge of the two colors, work through it with the congregation. But don't lie. They will appreciate your honesty and awkwardness in the situation.

Your Turn / Re: How to Talk about Suicide
« on: September 26, 2014, 10:28:37 AM »
That is a problem in this remote region. In the 2012-2013 school year with a HS (gr. 9-12) population of 300, there were four suicides.

Your Turn / Re: Church Is More Informal, Study Finds
« on: September 13, 2014, 05:58:40 PM »
I remember in 1963 a new ski resort opened about 15 miles from town. One Sunday morning (at early service) two women came in wearing ski pants and ski parkas. Many people were dumbfounded that they were so disrespectful of the worship service. I was a teenager and an usher that Sunday. My thought was: Hey, they drove 15 miles in mostly snow, with temps below zero. Looks like they dressed appropriately. But in 1963, we teenagers were not permitted to speak to the criticizers (i.e. adults) to challenge their judgmental attitudes.

Except for absolute requirements (meaning less than once/year), I do not wear ties. Not comfortable and not really my. The only who is disappointed is my wife: she loves ties (so I wear one rarely to please her).

Your Turn / Re: Frivolous thread: Guitars
« on: September 13, 2014, 04:33:14 PM »
Very nice, David. I'm not really jealous, really I'm not. Lord, forgive my jealousy!  ;D

Your Turn / Re: Concordia Seminary, St. Louis Has 175th Anniversary
« on: August 29, 2014, 12:01:52 PM »
When I served in the Navy, my last duty station was at Dam Neck, in Virginia Beach(1979-1982). In the congregation was an older couple (in their 80ís). He was a retired lawyer and her father was Charles Zeller Klauder, the architect for CSL in 1926. I left in 1982 to attend CLS.

I began reading fiction at the age of 49. Now 16 years later, I continue to enjoy fiction, but can't read at the pace I had a few years ago.

I have read most of P. D. James' books, excellent writer. More recently I have enjoyed Jacqueline Winspear, the series of books about Maise Dobbs, a nurse from the frontlines of WWI to detective assistant, to detective in in London. Winspear does an excellent job of bringing home the horrors of war and the long term effects. And her character development is very good.

A few others I have enjoyed, deal with legal fiction and crime (not the graphic stuff): Lisa Scottoline, Karin Slaughter, Elizabeth Lowell, R. J. Pineiro, Iris Johansen, Steve Martini, Elizabeth George.

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