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This discussion is about adults in college.
3. Disagree. Hunker down where you are in the ELCA and keep on doing what you have been doing. Pay as little attention as possible to the ELCA and what is going on there. (This was the practice of many in the Preus and Post-Preusian era of the LCMS.)
I do not scoff at the idea that Dr. Taylor made a presentation to the bishops. I scoff at the suggestion that they should have taken all his criticisms and run with them. They heard him. End of story.
Wheaton at least up till recent times, took no public funding,,,, just like Bob Jones, so they could do as they pleased in terms of imposing their Southen Baptist / Evangelical standards ...
While I understand your idea and support it in theory, the real problem with this is the effect it would have on the other sports at the school who are not responsible for the wrong doing. Like it or not, football and basketball pay for all the other sports at the big schools. Gutting them like this would have a significant trickle down effect on the other sports-possibly even eliminating some of them, because there wouldn't be enough money in the school or athletic budget to support them in any meaningful way.
Robert Johnson writes:
Bad teachers are overpaid, but cannot be fired and they make just as much as good teachers.
I comment:
A vast overstatement. "Bad" teachers quite often do not get tenure (in systems where that is granted.) "Bad" teachers do get fired (or do not have their contracts renewed).
12 hours a day, plus 5 on saturday and sunday = 70 hours a week.
Sad news from Concordia Evangelical Lutheran, Ironville (Columbia) Lancaster County, PA:
First vote FAILED 87 yea / 88 nay, 49.7% to 50.3%. In terms of congregational divisiveness it doesn't get much worse.
Pr. David Heffner is a member of the Lower Susquehanna Synod Council.
Meanwhile, Bishop Spring is meeting with a neighboring congregation today; first vote set for later in March.
I agree that it's divisive. But when it's that close, I have to wonder why anyone called for a vote in the first place.
Reiner before he died said, "They sounded better in German."
And now (and this is the part that’s gonna get me sent to Reeducation Camp), here’s something else. Sunday morning worship services are about more than teaching theology – via the liturgy, the sermon, or the hymns. Sunday morning is also a time for people to actually, you know, worship. It is a time for people to express praise and love and gratitude and adoration – and frustration and lack of understanding and fear and trust-and-hope-nonetheless – to God, the Lover of our souls. If we are so hung up on using only hymns that are dissertation-ready because of their theological perfection and educational value, but that fail to actually touch people’s hearts, allow them to connect with God and express themselves, then we will end up with congregations either a) full of people who can “sign off” on the Nicene Creed but might never know what it feels like to say, “I love you, God,” or b) empty because everyone has gone to a place where they are actually allowed to worship and say what’s on their hearts.
When Lutherans examine thriving non-denominational churches, they overlook the fact that these function as self-styled community centers that coincidentally have a Sunday church service. People are hungry for fellowship. The line that separates fellowship and worship in those churches is blurry. It's not about the music. (Surprise!) People are drawn to a place where there is a sense of belonging: "A community of worshipers."
When Paul spoke, did he always speak for God like an OT Prophet or Prophetess? Is it possible that his association with the party of the Pharisees colored his pronouncements just as associations with the Democratic or Republican parties color theological positions in America? Should his words carry the same weight as those of Jesus? Which one is God?
What makes some uncomfortable, as Deaconess Schave, Pr. Yakimow (before it disappeared) and I have tried to point out, is the misuse of anecdotal evidence to prove a generalized point.
I was unaware that unconditional acceptance of the Holocaust was part of the Christian faith.
"And the ministry of other parts of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America" does not indicate the method of transmitting that support. Sending money directly to the local camp, college, or seminary fulfills its meaning.
