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Your Turn / Re: Election 2020
« on: May 21, 2020, 02:42:06 PM »
I'm still curious from our Democratic friends what the presumptive candidate Joe Biden has to offer that should cause any of us to reconsider and vote for him.  I don't hear much about him or from him, although I realize the national election is still over 5 months away.  There has been some concern about his abilities.  Unfortunately his all too frequent verbal stumbling, which has long characterized him in one way or another, has served to insert some question regarding his fitness for the office. Do those who support Biden feel that he is fully up to the task?

I bet he'd threaten to take you outside and kick your a__ for asking such a horsesh__ question. :)

If you all are not following the Twitter account "President Joe Biden (So-Called)," you should be.

https://twitter.com/biden4pres

I know the Twitter account is not actually Joe Biden.  But are the tweets actual quotes of Biden?

No.

And what makes it hilarious is this -- they could be, and it would be hard for you to know the difference.
The Biden Insult Bot is also rather amusing.

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Your Turn / Re: ELCA prays to "Mother God"
« on: May 06, 2020, 09:51:49 PM »
I object to addressing God as "Mother," but as usual I don't see the issue as first and foremost whether we can or not. Rather, why would anyone choose to? I object to the desire behind the call for an alternate to "Father" more than I object to whatever alternative people come up with. Why not have God's Word shape our understanding of God, our selves, our neighbors, and the world rather than starting from our own elf-understanding and imposing that on God?

Wait, wait, wait -- "elf-understanding"?  Now they want to make God into an elf?!??  :)
Doesn't everyone? Be honest...


I blame the Scandinavians.  ;) 8)
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Your Turn / Re: Election 2020
« on: May 06, 2020, 11:46:55 AM »
Regardless of who is on the ballot, we will only have the choice of flawed human beings.  We ae always voting for the lesser of two evils.

He's running again.  "Vote for the Greatest Evil: Cthulhu for President."

"What really fuels change are the sacrifices we make of people like you. We don’t have to accept a system that drowns out your voice. We can obliterate it. Join us."

Steven- I  am surprised you did not go for the real candidate of change: Morgoth Bauglir. Make Middle Earth Dark Again!

And let us certainly not forget SMOD.

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Your Turn / Re: Life in Quarantine: One man's reflections
« on: May 02, 2020, 10:43:28 AM »
Pastor Engebretson's travails in video production were on my mind as I composed my post up stream. Without a congregational website  (at not listed on Synod's website) how do you make the video to your flock?

What I have been doing is uploading the video of the service to Vimeo. I think that you could also do it to YouTube, I'm not up on all the video streaming services or the relative merits of YouTube vs. Vimeo. From Vimeo I can get links that anyone can use to access the video. I then copied those links into an email that I sent out to all members that I have emails for. (I use the BCC function for the email addresses, that way people who receive the email cannot see everyone else's email address. Privacy)


I've also set up a congregational web site that I also post the links on.

We have no website as of yet, but we do have a (rarely used until now) Facebook page. I've been using a bit of a shotgun approach: video is posted on Facebook and YouTube and goes "live" on Sunday at 9:30 AM. Order of service is posted as images on Facebook and emailed to those we know about. A few paper copies are also available at the church for folks to pick up if they drop off their offering toward the end of the week. 

I live in a very small town in a very rural part of the Northern Plains, but we have a great telephone coop that upgraded to "fiber to the premises" about 5 years ago, so internet speed is great here. They are also the local TV provider, and have offered to air a replay of our service each week on the community channel. It's scheduled at the same time as our service, just delayed one week. We started that last Sunday, and the response from our shut-ins (who have received audio CDs each week for many years) and those who have no internet access (who have been receiving the CDs during The Time of the Virus) has been incredible. We will certainly be continuing this when things go "back to normal."

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Your Turn / Re: Online Communion: NALC Bishop Selbo Weighs In
« on: April 08, 2020, 11:56:21 AM »
Wondering out loud here:   I wonder what the churches did during the years of the 1918 pandemic, the Spanish flu?  Any anecdotal evidence recorded anywhere that anyone knows about and would share?

Perhaps this has been addressed on another thread.

Ah, the disadvantage of no longer serving a congregation that was around in that time with the communions recorded in the parish register.  I do know, though, that Communion was offered (in that Iowa Synod congregation) only 4-5 times a year.  Lutherans certainly wouldn't have been in a dither after 3 weeks.

Pax, Steven+
I just took a quick look at the parish register for my Iowa Synod-rooted congregation. It appears that Holy Communion was only offered one time in 1918--on the First Sunday in Advent. I'm not sure if there was any overlap there with the German language ban by the state. The usual practice was quarterly.

There were certainly quite a number of influenza related deaths listed, but the diphtheria epidemic of 1897-1898 had a greater impact on the local lore. It still comes up on occasion in the collective cultural memory of my long-remembering Germans from Russia. A walk through the cemeteries where the country churches of the parish once sat testifies to the impact...lots of tiny headstones.

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Your Turn / Re: The Lutheran Urge To Merge In The 1960's
« on: March 18, 2020, 04:17:21 PM »
Oh, yes, Norwegians and Danes converse.  The Norwegians got their liturgy and many of their hymns from Denmark.  In fact, some of the most popular Norwegian hymns are really Danish.  Hans Brorson, who wrote "Behold a Host Arrayed in White," was a Dane.
One of my teachers used to quip that old Norwegians don't realize they're dead until they hear the organist start playing "Behold a Host."  :)

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Your Turn / Re: Ecclesial Rebooting?
« on: January 23, 2020, 05:23:01 PM »
Years ago an ALC congregation near me voted to disband and then to reorganize. That was the easiest way they found to remove a required provision in their old constitution that was not amendable. I don't remember the exact details, but I think it had something to do with relocating and the construction of a new building.

And then there was the LCMS church that wanted to get rid of their pastor but had no grounds.  They tried to buy him off with a severance package but he would not go for it; he had this idea of the divine call, you see.  So, on the advice of district officials, they disbanded and then re-chartered a brand new church.  Same location.  Same officers.  Same building.  Just, now, they called a different pastor.  I believe this one ended up in court.

How did it turn out?

Dave Benke

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mn-court-of-appeals/1184799.html
Interestingly, it appears that the congregation that was attempted to be disbanded (Shepherd of the Valley, Hastings, MN) is one mentioned recently in another thread: "reDo Fitness Church."

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Your Turn / Re: Impeachment Hearings
« on: January 16, 2020, 05:06:46 PM »
To repeat what I've said from the beginning of this bruhaha, the only question that matters is whether or not an investigation into the Bidens was properly predicated.  The public information we have known since 2015 is absolutely enough to open an investigation.  I'm glad to see that it was (and perhaps still is) finally being pursued.

Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) posted the following on Twitter this morning:

Quote from: @ScottAdamsSays
Here's how the impeachment trial should go:
1. Was there a legitimate US interest in investigating Burisma and the Bidens? (Answer: yes)
2. Vote

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I always liked that Scott.
His morning Twitter/Periscope videos are quite often interesting. He brings an unique point of view to the table, particularly in matters relating to persuasion. I bought his little book "Win Bigly" on a whim when the Kindle version was cheap; he explains some aspects of the Trump phenomenon (and how he predicted the outcome of the election early on) quite impressively.

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Your Turn / Re: Impeachment Hearings
« on: January 16, 2020, 02:52:43 PM »
To repeat what I've said from the beginning of this bruhaha, the only question that matters is whether or not an investigation into the Bidens was properly predicated.  The public information we have known since 2015 is absolutely enough to open an investigation.  I'm glad to see that it was (and perhaps still is) finally being pursued.

Scott Adams (of Dilbert fame) posted the following on Twitter this morning:

Quote from: @ScottAdamsSays
Here's how the impeachment trial should go:
1. Was there a legitimate US interest in investigating Burisma and the Bidens? (Answer: yes)
2. Vote

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Your Turn / Re: Church Shooting
« on: January 02, 2020, 02:50:49 PM »

You are a fool. 

And with that exchange can we finally get the obnoxious, rude and abusive . . .  He is a jerk and little else.

The sad thing is, calling people a fool or a jerk is actually, well, obnoxious, rude and abusive. You both might to make a New Year's resolution to speak more civilly.

While I accept the correction, and appreciate it, I do wish you’d go back and take a look at the posts from Pastor Austin I was responding to.
You are a gentleman, Mr. Garner. Thank you for sticking it out around here.

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Your Turn / Re: Impeachment Hearings
« on: December 05, 2019, 11:12:28 AM »
Peter, Pastor Fienen, Steven, and Mr. Garner continue to focus on this humble correspondent and what they assume to be my attitude and alleged failings rather than on the issue at hand. They must be graduates of the Trump School Of Responding To Criticism.
The hearings: “A hoax! A witch hunt!”
The Democrats: “they don’t love our country!”
Committee chairman Schiff: “Crazy! A maniac!”
Staff members: “Do not testify! Say nothing!”
I will have a statement later.

You have shown no willingness to discuss the matter at hand.  You demand concession to your view.

What is there to discuss except that your attitude toward the matter at hand is precisely the problem?
Our role is to acquiesce and acknowledge the wisdom of our betters, of course. Join the Long March or be on the Wrong Side of History. It always boils down to der Wille zur Macht. Always. 

I, too, appreciate your earlier responses.

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Your Turn / Re: "Blue" Christmas Service resources?
« on: November 22, 2019, 05:03:13 PM »

Our local funeral home has held one of these services each year.  The funeral director asks each church/pastor in town, in turn, to officiate (not at the same service, but to lead the service that particular year).  It has been very well-received by the community.  It was my turn several years ago and was glad to do it.  Several members who had lost loved ones that year were present, and they expressed their appreciation for the service as that first Christmas without their loved one was hard -- often, harder than they had imagined it would be.  It has served as yet another way that the community bonds together, as they share their grief.  Perhaps this is more important and obvious in small communities, like ours.

As to Rev. Austin's crass comments:

1) We only have one funeral home in town, so he doesn't really have to worry about competition.  In fact, there are times when I suppose he would actually welcome another funeral home in the community, since he is too busy.

2) The director has served in this community for something like 40 years (yes, he is getting up there but he can't retire as there is no one to take his place -- he has tried!).  If anyone in town is connected and in the know about "future customers", it is Jim.  He has buried generations of the same families.  They know him, they trust him, they appreciate him.

3) I could not ask for a more deferential and respectful treatment than I have received from this funeral home.  Far from overstepping, the staff always takes great pains to ensure that things are done as the officiating pastor directs.

This is almost word-for-word my experience here on the prairie, in a town that's not really on the way to anywhere (anymore at least), 75 miles from the nearest McDonald's or Walmart.

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Eureka!  You have found it!  My first call was to a small, isolated dual parish (nearest Walmart or McDonald's was "only" 60 miles for me!) but the sense of community was outstanding.  Something that I think those who serve their whole ministry in large urban settings maybe cannot fully understand or appreciate.  God bless you and your service to His saints there!!!
Thanks, Pr. Bohler!  I both appreciate and enjoy serving here a great deal.

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Your Turn / Re: Can Someone Wrong about a Teaching Still Be Christian?
« on: November 22, 2019, 03:17:38 PM »
Asking for a friend...

Does serving as a Forum Online moderator automatically disqualify a person from participating in/contributing to/taking issue with an argument presented in a discussion?  Is there some sort of ontological change that's supposed happen upon one's ordination to moderation?  An "online ordination," I guess you'd call it...  ;)   

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Your Turn / Re: "Blue" Christmas Service resources?
« on: November 22, 2019, 03:00:22 PM »

Our local funeral home has held one of these services each year.  The funeral director asks each church/pastor in town, in turn, to officiate (not at the same service, but to lead the service that particular year).  It has been very well-received by the community.  It was my turn several years ago and was glad to do it.  Several members who had lost loved ones that year were present, and they expressed their appreciation for the service as that first Christmas without their loved one was hard -- often, harder than they had imagined it would be.  It has served as yet another way that the community bonds together, as they share their grief.  Perhaps this is more important and obvious in small communities, like ours.

As to Rev. Austin's crass comments:

1) We only have one funeral home in town, so he doesn't really have to worry about competition.  In fact, there are times when I suppose he would actually welcome another funeral home in the community, since he is too busy.

2) The director has served in this community for something like 40 years (yes, he is getting up there but he can't retire as there is no one to take his place -- he has tried!).  If anyone in town is connected and in the know about "future customers", it is Jim.  He has buried generations of the same families.  They know him, they trust him, they appreciate him.

3) I could not ask for a more deferential and respectful treatment than I have received from this funeral home.  Far from overstepping, the staff always takes great pains to ensure that things are done as the officiating pastor directs.

This is almost word-for-word my experience here on the prairie, in a town that's not really on the way to anywhere (anymore at least), 75 miles from the nearest McDonald's or Walmart.

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Your Turn / Re: Impeachment Hearings
« on: November 16, 2019, 06:58:47 PM »
☆  Nekulturnish behavior.
ISWYDT.  8)
Well done.  :D :D
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