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Your Turn / Re: The Benedict Option
« on: September 04, 2021, 11:07:20 AM »
I found it a to be a worthwhile read, and his newest release "Live Not By Lies" is good as well. It reads quicker than "The Benedict Option," mostly, I think, because of the biographical content of the folks he interviewed. Lots to think about.

It also spurred me on to tackle MacIntyre's "After Virtue" which was incredibly insightful, but not bedtime reading.
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I would be concerned about where your bishop gets his information.

I think that he assumed she had either resigned or been removed.  As I mentioned, when I questioned his assumption that she was no longer on the roster, he checked and let me know he had been mistaken.  He was genuinely surprised.

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Normally, a pastor is given three years to secure another Call before they are removed from the roster by their synod council.

That's true, but it is not automatic.  My understanding is the the synod council has to renew that status each year.  At least that is what happened in the case of Pastor Rebecca Heber some years ago.  Although she had not been on leave for over three years, the synod council decided to drop her from the roster anyway because she was too critical of the ELCA.

Compare that to Nadia Bolz-Weber, who had openly violated the ELCA's Definitions and Guidelines for Discipline.  Not only was she not disciplined, her on leave status was upheld until she could receive a new call.  It seems like favored and unequal treatment to me.


Due to an interpretation of ELCA policy (and possibly constitution/bylaws) by Secretary Boerger, the synod bishop has more power than they used to with regard to roster status, on a couple of levels.


First, the ruling was that the synod council can only act upon roster matters that are brought to it. The rule book says that the bishop must recommend on-leave status or renewal/extension. So if he/she doesn’t do that, the person is off the roster. No appeal possible. And to get back on the roster, they would need to have approval from the bishop of the synod where they were last rostered. So that’s an almost certain dead-end.


Second, the interpretation was made that “any status the synod council gives, it can take away.” So a person granted retired or disability status, in addition to on-leave, can be removed by a majority vote. Again, no appeal is possible. I’ve witnessed this happen first-hand.


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*Edited to remove formatting glitches

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Your Turn / Re: President Harrison to Japan Lutheran Church
« on: August 10, 2021, 06:15:26 PM »
Randy Bosch:
What percentage of Christian traditions in the world ordain only men?  What percentage of the total headcount of Christians celebrates ordaining women to priesthood/pastoral office?
Me:
I think one would have to say that the vast majority Churches ordain men only. But, as is often said here, we don’t determine such things simply by majority vote.
Agreed. You need two thirds.


Heh. Tough, but fair.


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Your Turn / Re: Fillmore County, MN
« on: July 03, 2021, 04:33:59 PM »
For some reason, this just keeps coming to mind over and over and over...

https://youtu.be/A030wZ8kjyQ?t=10

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Your Turn / Re: Confirmation Verses
« on: May 19, 2021, 10:59:59 AM »
I always pick the verses (the tyrant must be in our GenX blood, Mark  ;) ). If you have a copy of Nesper's Biblical Texts, that can be a good source of ideas. If you don't have Nesper, I think CTSFW is still selling a spiral-bound reprint. It's been out of print for eons and to my knowledge, no one else has compiled such a useful resource.

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Your Turn / Re: LifeStiteNews and Project Veritas
« on: February 12, 2021, 11:01:43 AM »
Should platforms such as Twitter who are not publishers be considered like public accommodations?

Or, since they control the infrastructure, public utilities?

From a recent essay by Victor Davis Hanson entitled "Our Animal Farm":
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A new Orwellian phrase is “free speech is not free reach”—as leftists become the intellectual inheritors of the racists of the open-housing fights of the 1950s and 1960. The old racist boilerplate of apartment owners and realtors was “You can live anywhere you want, just not here.” The new hate mantra of Silicon Valley cartels is, “You can tweet or socially post anywhere you like—if you can manage to find a place.”

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Your Turn / Re: Nominees for Concordia Seminary President Announced
« on: February 12, 2021, 10:48:13 AM »
Interesting demographics, and the same would be true, I guess, for Don's part of the world.  What then is the percentage of Lutherans in Jamestown?  Must be pretty high.  My guess is that "ELCA" means "former ALC" in that part of the world, and maybe designated by heritage - Scandinavian, as opposed to the more German LCMS. 

Interestingly, "former ALC" in this region (I'm about 90 miles SW of Jamestown) is a pretty mixed bag. There are lots of "old ALC" (1930) congregations in these parts, many of which were founded in the 1880s-1890s by Iowa Synod missionaries to German immigrants. This is the land of Germans from Russia, especially to the west and SW of where Tom serves. Same plainspoken personality, different dialect and vocabulary. Absolutely love it here.

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(proudly serving in "Eureka, home of kuchen," South Dakota's state dessert).  8)

Double crumb?

Dave Benke
For the Germans from Russia, "kuchen" means round and custard with a light cinnamon-sugar sprinkle topping (see attached). Many variations, of course. But you can't have a funeral luncheon or any serious "lunch" without them. Rhubarb, prune, and plain ol' cream are my favorite.

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Your Turn / Re: Nominees for Concordia Seminary President Announced
« on: February 11, 2021, 11:13:59 AM »
Interesting demographics, and the same would be true, I guess, for Don's part of the world.  What then is the percentage of Lutherans in Jamestown?  Must be pretty high.  My guess is that "ELCA" means "former ALC" in that part of the world, and maybe designated by heritage - Scandinavian, as opposed to the more German LCMS. 

Interestingly, "former ALC" in this region (I'm about 90 miles SW of Jamestown) is a pretty mixed bag. There are lots of "old ALC" (1930) congregations in these parts, many of which were founded in the 1880s-1890s by Iowa Synod missionaries to German immigrants. This is the land of Germans from Russia, especially to the west and SW of where Tom serves. Same plainspoken personality, different dialect and vocabulary. Absolutely love it here.

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(proudly serving in "Eureka, home of kuchen," South Dakota's state dessert).  8)

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Your Turn / Re: Civil unrest and Christian witness
« on: January 07, 2021, 09:50:49 PM »
Does moderator Peter Speckhard have authority to limit or remove Charles Austin's posts?

I regard Pr. Speckhard's posts as an expression of his political views.. In not a few instances they do not reflect mine.  The same is true for some of his theological posts. 

In many instances I agree with Charles.  At other times I have a slightly different take.  For the most part I think he represents the give and take which ALPB Founders intended for conversation among fellow Lutherans.

Marie Meyer


If Peter doesn't have the authority to limit or remove Charles Austin's posts (or any poster's posts!) then there is absolutely no point in having a moderator.


Exactly. Peter and Richard both do a great job at a thankless task.


Seriously, folks, let’s not go down this road. This place, such as it has been lately, is one of the few worthwhile places on the interwebs. Let them call balls and strikes as they see fit. PM them if you disagree with their calls if you must. But let’s not make this place one more tribal enclave. Please. This rural, rather isolated pastor begs you.


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Your Turn / Re: Not about the election...
« on: December 17, 2020, 05:29:31 PM »
   To again borrow Macbeth's words, their idiot-told tales are, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Then ignore them. Please. Seriously. Ignore them.
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Your Turn / Re: Judge Amy Barrett Confirmation Hearings
« on: October 27, 2020, 01:52:13 PM »
Don't feed trolls. You'll thank yourself later.

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Your Turn / Re: Judge Amy Barrett Confirmation Hearings
« on: October 13, 2020, 10:59:55 PM »
The nominee has only been in her current position for three years.  Other nominees have had more experience.   I am not suggesting that she is not intelligent, I am saying that her experience is thin.   Look it up for yourself. Don't take my word for it.

How many years was Justice Kagan on the Court of Appeals before her nomination?  What other courts had she served on?

See also: Abe Fortas.

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Your Turn / Re: Election 2020
« on: September 15, 2020, 11:57:55 AM »
I think I said before that if the Republicans dumped Trump and nominated someone else, I would even consider voting for that person just to reward  them for their common sense.

I have a difficult time believing this, based on your history here.

I can believe he would consider it and then decide not to vote for that candidate.

I'm certain Pr. Austin is a big fan of Mitt Romney's now that he voted to convict President Trump in the Senate trial.  And yet I am just as certain that he did not vote for Romney in 2012.

This is hitting every nail on every head.

Strange New Respect is just a catchphrase for Democratic gaslighting.  "Why can't this guy be more like Romney?"  Meanwhile in 2012 the same folks were accusing (or excusing the guy accusing) Romney of wanting to re-enslave black Americans.
And quite similar to Dreher's Law of Merited Impossibility: "Oh, that will never, ever happen! But when it does, you bigots will deserve it."

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Your Turn / Re: Social Gospel
« on: August 05, 2020, 10:39:00 PM »
Brian, I already know that your cat's breath smells like cat food. You don't need to keep posting it.


Bonus points for invoking Ralph Wiggum.  ;D

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