Hope you can make it. The line-up is exceptional. Morerod isn't that well known in the US, but is an excellent and incisive scholar.
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Quote from: readselerttoo on October 25, 2012, 09:39:12 AMQuote from: Charles_Austin on October 25, 2012, 06:49:23 AM
And the Joint Document on Justification, quoted just upstream, shows that today's Vatican does not have the same view of the doctrine of justification as did the Vatican of Luther's time.
Note these words (emphasis added):
"The teaching of the Lutheran churches presented in this Declaration does not fall under the condemnations from the Council of Trent. The condemnations in the Lutheran Confessions do not apply to the teaching of the Roman Catholic Church presented in this Declaration."
And remember that the current bishop of Rome was the one who "rescued" that joint declaration when it was being criticized by other key people in Rome.
I do note the words above. However, they can be read that the condemnations at Trent were not discussed surrounding JDDJ
and therefore the issue is still open for discussion. In other words not all of what was a bone of contention between the confessors and those who responded with the confutation was discussed leading up to JDDJ. The wording of the section quoted above simply does not make a full agreement possible between Lutherans and Roman Catholics regarding the fullness of justification by faith.
Quote from: Michael Slusser on December 28, 2010, 01:55:14 PMThat the Holy Innocents are redeemed, despite the absence of baptism or anything that might plausibly be called a desire for baptism, plays a role in the text from the Catholic "International Theological Commission" on the possible salvation of unbaptized infants (well worth reading; it can be found here: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html) As Fr Slusser notes (hi, Mike!), an analogy is particularly drawn with the fate of aborted infants.
For an excellent sermon on this feast (by Pastor Scott Yakimow): http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=2573.msg133439#msg133439