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Your Turn / Now that the 2020 Election is over....
« on: November 06, 2020, 11:17:55 AM »
The final results of the Election of 2020 may soon be known.  My suggestion is to put to bed the Forum topic on the 2020 Election and move on.  Remember...with malice toward none with charity to all.

There were some definite surprises.  What were some of these surprises?

Your Turn / Nuclear Family
« on: September 23, 2020, 11:32:29 AM »
Recently Pastors Engebretsen and Speckhard have made mention of "the nuclear family." I would be interested in reading comments about this topic.  What is meant by the term "the nuclear family"? Is  Is it a Biblical concept? Is the "nuclear family" a moral imperative?

Your Turn / White Fragility
« on: June 11, 2020, 11:22:26 AM »
My pastor has sent a profound and moving Pastoral Letter to the congregation.  He was born and raised in south Minneapolis.  He is as Minnesota and Lutheran as one could be.    He deeply feels the pain and sorrow which we all are experiencing.   He has made several reading suggestions and I list  one near the top of his list:  Robin Diangelo. "White Fragility   Why It's So Hard for White People  to Talk About Racism".  I ordered this book from the iTunes Store.

Your Turn / Unholy
« on: May 26, 2020, 09:07:14 AM »
Recommended reading.  "Unholy:  Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump". by Sarah Posner. Random House, 2020.  Available at the iTunes Store. 

Your Turn / When it's over...
« on: April 09, 2020, 12:05:03 PM »
It's too early to predict a time when the virus crisis will be over.  Whenever that time comes, there will be seen changes in the way that we live.  Since this venerable Forum deals with matters of faith and life, I wonder how  change will be seen here.  Will long standing trends be seen to continue or will they be seen to have ended?  Will the church grow or will it be seen to have diminished? Will there be connections between secular results and those in religious arenas?  Where can one seek to discover information on the subject.  For me, I see the communion of saints tied more tenaciously on the sources of the faith.

Your Turn / Ukraine, Russia and the Orthodox Church
« on: September 03, 2018, 10:05:25 AM »

The President of Ukraine wants to keep the church in his country free from the dominance of Russia and Vladiimir Putin.  It's a long story of politics and religion.

Your Turn / John McCain: an American hero is laid to rest
« on: September 01, 2018, 09:34:26 AM »
Senator McCain served his country in life and in death.  Watching the funeral proceedings with great interest. How sad that POTUS disrespected this hero.


Some people believe that the cause of religion has advanced under the Trump administration.  Others might disagree. 

VP Pence has said:  "We live in a time when traditional values, even religious conviction, are increasingly marginalized by a secular popular culture – a time when it's become acceptable, even fashionable, to malign religious belief. I still believe with all my heart that FAITH in America is rising."

Your Turn / Current POTUS said to be morally unfit for office.
« on: April 16, 2018, 06:22:19 AM »
Former FBI Director James Comey has said that Donald Trump is morally unfit to be President of the United States.  This opinion is by no means exclusive to him.  I will read his account and make up my own mind.

Your Turn / Donald Trump As the Messenger of God
« on: January 23, 2018, 08:25:38 AM »

Perhaps readers of this Forum will find something here to understand how Trump made it to the White House.

"The United States, he says, is being eroded from within by a “deep state” comprised of the “bureaucracy, the lobbyists, insiders, and even the intelligence agencies.” I presume that this doesn’t include gun lobbyists and insiders like Mike Huckabee, who wrote the introduction to God and Donald Trump. Because for Strang, the deep state seems to be synonymous with the Democratic party, which, he claims, engaged in wide-scale election fraud: “I’ve heard some experts suggest that if there had been no illegal voting in the 2016 election, Trump would also have won the popular vote.” These experts, alas, are never named, and unless Trump lost by 3 votes the data don’t really comply.

"These “demonic” schemes go right to the top: both President Obama and Hilary Clinton were “mentored” by radical sixties activist Saul Alinsky, who “taught that the historic framework of democracy in America must be destroyed.” Obama’s mentoring must have been particularly interesting, since Alinsky died in 1972, when the future president was eleven. More recently, there is the grave threat posed by “hard-left groups” like Black Lives Matter, which is “funded by Hungarian billionaire and former Nazi collaborator George Soros.”

"And what is their ultimate goal? The “one world order” perpetrated by that renowned lefty radical George H.W. Bush—a global government, I’m guessing, that dispenses abortions, pornography and same-sex marriage certificates like Pez."

Your Turn / And lead us not into temptation
« on: December 08, 2017, 08:01:55 AM »
This is what the BBC is reporting:

Pope Francis has called for a translation of a phrase about temptation in the Lord's Prayer to be changed.

The current wording that says "lead us not into temptation" is not a good translation, because God does not lead humans to sin, he says.

He suggests using "do not let us fall into temptation" instead, he told Italian TV on Wednesday night.

The Lord's Prayer is the best-known prayer in Christianity.

The pontiff said France's Roman Catholic Church was now using the new wording "do not let us fall into temptation" as an alternative, and something similar should be used worldwide .

"Do not let me fall into temptation because it is I who fall, it is not God who throws me into temptation and then sees how I fell," he told TV2000, an Italian Catholic TV channel.

"A father does not do that, a father helps you to get up immediately."

Since the beginning of his papacy, Pope Francis has not shied away from controversy and has tackled some issues head-on, Vatican observers say.

Your Turn / Why Trump?
« on: November 15, 2017, 02:18:15 PM »
Evangelicals voted overwhelmingly for Trump in last year's election.  Now Stephen Mansfield has written on this topic in his book "Choosing Donald Trump: God, Anger, Hope, and Why Christian Conservatives Supported Him"
Stephen Mansfield
Baker Books

"Just over a year ago, 81 percent of white, evangelical Christian voters supported a presidential candidate who could be the perfect avatar for everything they claim to oppose. Why?

"They did it mainly because they felt traumatized in the wake of the Obama years and terrified by the possibility of a Hillary Clinton presidency. You have to realize that, if you were a religious conservative in America, coming out of the Obama years you felt like the administration had bombarded your faith. There was a strident LGBT agenda, a strident pro-choice agenda, lawsuits against—for instance—the Green family of Hobby Lobby for not wanting to fund abortifacients in their employee insurance, and even small orders of nuns were sued.* In the culture of conservative evangelicalism, there was a feeling that there had been a war declared upon their tradition. And Clinton would be more of the same."

Does this writer accurately describe this support?  Do Trump voters still have the same thoughts on his election a year after the election?

Your Turn / Ordination
« on: November 02, 2017, 05:55:22 AM »
There is another thread on this Forum where Installation questions are raised.  Several comments are made about the proper liturgical colors for Installation.  I am wondering about the deeper question of Ordination itself.  What constitutes a proper understanding of Ordination?  Are there limitations to Ordination, such as gender, type of ministry, age?  Is Ordination the same, or different, among various Christian confessions?

Your Turn / Religion and Sports
« on: August 29, 2017, 08:10:33 AM »

As an usher for  major sports teams in Minneapolis, I found this essay to be of interest.  I see, in my experience, a similarity between the medieval idea of acquiring holy relics and the current preoccupation  with authentic sports objects.  A game-worn jersey, for example, by D.J. Dozier is quite valuable.  It seems to me that fans who wish to collect authentic game objects in an attempt to be closer to the game are like medieval believers who want to get closer to the divine.

The author writes:  "Practically speaking, there isn’t much of a dividing line between denominational religion and commercial sport, or (more figuratively) between the profanity of commerce and the sacredness of religious gathering. Evangelical groups give away bobblehead dolls of Biblical figures at Major League Baseball “Faith Nights.” UFC fighters proselytize in the octagon after bloodying their opponents."

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