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Your Turn / Re: CUW next president
« on: November 20, 2022, 06:38:27 PM »
Jim, I'm a little confused....Prof. Schulz is now giving thanks for CUWAA's end of wokeism, though they are still calling Erik Ankerberg as their president and Schulz still remains suspended and under threat of termination. Why the change of heart? Was there a booth review to overturn the call on the field? (Watching football waiting for the Chiefs game to start.)

I don't understand Schulz' change of heart.  Edit: I see that the SWD is repudiating wokeism but in what fashion?


Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: November 19, 2022, 08:19:36 AM »
This is a relatively recent interview from Issues Etc. Todd interviews John Lomparis from the Institute on Religion and Democracy. It was a good, informative interview.


Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 15, 2022, 10:31:38 PM »
Non-Christians gonna non-Christian.

Surprised it took them this long to chase relevance.


Your Turn / Re: Concordia University Texas
« on: November 13, 2022, 08:44:43 PM »
They all seem well qualified. Good and varied experience in the world and with the church. But have some of them resigned since the recent announcement?


PS And where has that Packers team been all year?!?!

Your Turn / Re: Concordia University Texas
« on: November 13, 2022, 07:05:36 PM »
Rev. Likeness, when I was at CURF in the early 90s, synodical financial support was already a small amount. I can't imagine it has gotten any bigger.

One thing from the president's letter that caught my eye was that some of CTX's regents have resigned following CTX's decision to restructure their relationship with synod. That struck me as curious.


Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 07, 2022, 07:39:28 AM »
Those who deny the existence and impact of the extremists - not the occasional crazies, but the organized, on-the-campaign-trail folks - have, I believe, their heads in the sand. QAnon, election deniers, "Christian" nationalists, anti-Semites, white supremacists, are running for office and many are likely to win, unless (my hope) a massive massive turnout of progressive voters and smart women make the current polls irrelevant. Michael Flynn draws huge crowds and may have a role in a Republican administration. Ms. Greene, once stripped of her committee assignments, is back in favor. Kevin McCarthy would sell his soul and probably his mother's soul as well, for a seat of power.
Do folks here really - and I mean really - think the Democrats are equally populated with loonies?

Without a doubt

If I can gently take your blinders off Charles, Nancy Pelosi and Kevin McCarthy are exactly the same people and are members of the same party, or belong to the duopoly. The progressives are getting heckled for their warmongering and limited blank check for the US and NATO's proxy war vs. Russia. The non-Repulican party is the party of censorship and selling out to corporations and making sure that their disinformation is the only information carried by the media.

What does this have to do with Christian nationalism? I'm not entirely certain other than that Christian nationalism is mostly myth, mostly being 90%.


Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 01, 2022, 07:34:14 PM »
This is a 29 minute interview on Christian Nationalism. It was very good. I think Todd is an excellent interviewer with good questions. The guest is a professor at Southern Baptist Seminary. It was a good interview.


Your Turn / Re: Why our children and grandchildren don't go to church.
« on: November 01, 2022, 09:27:58 AM »
Pres. Benke, contact Tyler Arnold at Village in Ladue MO. He spoke on this topic in a fine fashion at the 2021 MO Dist pastor's conference.


Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: October 29, 2022, 01:55:51 PM »
You'll have to search the archives at to find an interview about the 2019 conference that called for an amicable divorce. One thing that surprised me, but then made sense, was that the conservative Methodists who were leaving wanted nothing to do with the existing schools/seminaries. This is the conversation I recall: "Wouldn't it be cheaper to take an existing school then start a new one?" "Yes, but we'd have to deal with the existing faculty too, many of whom are tenured. They'd stay and continue teaching what they have always taught and this new Methodist church would still be the old Methodist church."

It was an informative interview.


Your Turn / Re: CUW next president
« on: October 26, 2022, 06:56:05 PM »
The press release mentions that he is pursuing ordination into pastoral ministry. Would someone share the route he is taking? Is it SMP? Alternate Route?

Evan, I'm not sure which route, but I know it's not SMP. I believe he does some work at St. John, Wheaton IL. (This is like playing Seven Degrees of Erik Ankerberg.)


Your Turn / Re: CUW next president
« on: October 26, 2022, 03:12:07 PM »
Here's a bit about Dr. Ankerberg:

That's a good bio but it fails to mention his love of poetry, his euchre skills, and that he sang bass in the Kapelle at CURF. I believe he is a Bears fan too.

Jeremy (just trying to give a fuller picture of a wonderful man.)

Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: October 24, 2022, 06:28:48 PM »
My wife and I just got booster #3 and a flue shot. Sore arms and a bit of a headache the next morning, but that was about it.

I would have thought the flue shot would be given in the ash.

I hate to inform you of this, but you thought wrong. (Perhaps because it was given by a pharmacist at a Walmart, rather than in a doctor's office. Who wants to pull down their pants at a Walmart?)

Chim chiminee chim chim cheroo
There are none so dense as you.

Chim chiminee chim chim cheree
The flue is part of a house's chimney.

Jeremy, aka Bert

Your Turn / Re: Edmund Schlink's Ecumenical Dogmatics
« on: October 18, 2022, 03:31:42 PM »
Do either of you, Scott or Matt, have connections at CPH?  I was pointed to a new volume by someone unknown to me, Molly Lackey, who has written "Confession Jesus:  The Heart of Being a Lutheran."  Aspects of the book and its thematic remind me about old friend and golf buddy Don Matzat and his book (also, I think, for CPH) titled "Christ Identity."

Very timely, and from what I've seen, very Lutheran.  Then this morning I received a tweet link on my email to a discussion on another site basically pushing the book, CPH and Ms. Lackey under the bridge.  Reason?  A woman wrote the book; CPH published it; there is theological teaching in it.  Ergo wrong, wrong, wrong.  Of course, the bridge-pushers were LCMS clergy. 

Anyway, my aim is to check the book out, on a timely topic, and use it for teaching purposes, maybe in an adult class.  So if you (especially Scott) know folks at CPH, I'd like to reach out to them and to the author.

Dave Benke

The book you write about is the Book of the Month at Issues Etc. and was reviewed very favorably by them. The author was interviewed on one of the segments.


Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: October 14, 2022, 08:03:24 PM »
Lol! Gabbard would be worth considering. But I suppose right now I am hoping for Desantis to get the nomination.

And unfortunately I don't think there is a Democrat that would garner much interest from me.


Your Turn / Re: Real dollar amount reasonable clergy salary
« on: October 12, 2022, 07:08:47 PM »
The problem with adjustments for cost of living is that you’re still getting the value of the house you buy. Someone who takes a call to Martha’s Vineyard, “needs” a a half million dollar housing allowance and an exorbitant salary just to make ends meet, and then retires now has a giant bank account upon the sale of his house as well as a retirement income based on that high cost of living regardless of where he lives for the rest of his life.

But let’s set aside adjustments. Your buddy, again, sem grad with ten years experience, takes a call to a congregation in a town that happens to be perfectly average in terms of cost of living. The benefits are also average but there is no parsonage, so the salary plus housing allowance is the compensation. The congregation has, say 400 members with weekly attendance of 150 or so. The pastor has no doctorate, nor is the call to be senior of a pastoral staff. Tell me what you think is too low a salary and too high a salary in 2022.

40000 is too low, 60000 is too high.


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