Seriously? That's what you ask me after this?
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Quote from: Dave Benke on October 10, 2019, 06:54:49 PM100% agree. No lesson plan is as important as actually answering questions, even if it takes you off track 2 minutes into the lesson. This isn't a race. There's no final exam at the end of the quarter.
Agreed for the most part, especially about the central Gospel message and the importance of being a teaching Church for children, youth and families.
Several provisos - one, the responsibility to teach the faith is a given; the effectiveness of the teaching is not only based, however, on the lesson - it's based on the relationship with the teacher(s), which must be one of trust, and as a followup, on the relationships going on in the communion of saints of all ages. And both the lesson and how it's taught and the relationships mentioned are functions of the Holy Spirit as articulated in the Third Article of the Apostles' Creed and its meaning as written by Martin Luther. It's not in other words pro forma presentation.
Secondly, at least where I am and probably where Pastor Ed is, the audience/student body comes in with a wide variety of interest and religious background. We taught a "hymn" as a way to encourage "holding fast" to Jesus with the faith that has been given to you - kids aged 5-12. Here's the hymn (not, at least at this time, in LSB): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU. We put it on the screen and then went through the various stories and the point of the stories. Every child was riveted to that hymn and those stories, and they all picked up the primary relationship of trust in Jesus.
Quote from: Brian Stoffregen on November 06, 2018, 07:33:18 PM
How do you distinguish Gospel from taking a particular moral stand on self-harm, dating abuse, suicide, addiction, sexuality, etc. Would your position on those issues be any different than a Mormon or Orthodox Jew or Muslim?
Quote from: Dave Benke on November 06, 2018, 02:34:09 PM
Thanks for these words, Sandra. I take them as encouragement to keep on keeping on. I'm in a predominantly Caribbean Basin culture congregation. In that setting, there's a high degree of pretense that things be done according to the rubrics received back on the island(s) - the only parable is the ant and the grasshopper. Don't be that grasshopper! Be the industrious ant!! Absolutely what you say - "law upon law." What troubles me is that the adults have plenty of problems of their own and with their own offspring, but focus instead on pointing the finger; guess what, the young adults and youth vote with their feet.
So those young adults whom we train and work with to minister with the youth and children promote as they can a more listening and encouraging attitude, not abrogating inherently Christian values, but without the judgmentalist banging . And they have to be OK with the language even as we explore a different "higher things" linguistics.
Quote from: Dave Benke on November 02, 2018, 02:42:57 PM
This is on the money, Don, in terms of Christian theology. I will admit that dealing with realities of today's young adults and belief systems is a challenge for me. My nature is to find points of attachment for conversation and lead to what we call the "mysteries". What it seems to me is being propounded is a network of personal theologies/philosophies that has points of convergence on issues of importance (to that person or group), without an underlying objective theological framework. And I think "objective" is not allowed in those settings, because what was deemed objective - the writings of Scripture, the documents of the faith through the centuries as driven down to doctrine - is now deemed not to be or have been objective all along, but rather the organization of facts by whichever person or group was in power. So community is durable on whichever issues connect people, but pro tem at best in terms of underlying objective truth or doctrine.
Kurt Marquart (not somebody I am probably viewed as quoting!) used to argue at length about "biblicism," that is, a raw objectifying Scripture without the lens of the confessions and the Church through the ages. It's that larger body of data and decisions made in community that most of us on this forum take as "objective." How to connect that with the kids I know who wrestle with this incredible data-heavy, informationally overloaded bunch of stuff that comes at them and boiling it down to Jesus is a challenge, and one that the Church must be up to by God's grace.
Quote from: mariemeyer on January 20, 2018, 05:21:34 PM
As I have stated in the past, there is reason to review how the LCMS defines the husband/wife relationship and applies it to man and woman. The problem may not be in how abusive husbands misuse or misinterpret Scripture, but the lack of clarity on LCMS writings on marriage. The question is whether or not submission, self-sacrificial love and servanthood are mutual in marriage and in the relationship between man and woman in the Church?