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Your Turn / Re: Was Paul Aware of the Apostolic Council?
« on: November 22, 2022, 09:03:40 AM »
So can one who opposes certain policies of the ELCA continue to express their Christian faith as a member of an ELCA congregation?
   So long as their opposition is not on essential matters of salvation, I would hope so. (I also know that in the present climate, what I hope for is not always the case.)
   Accepting gay marriage is not an essential matters of salvation.
   It seems to me that rejecting gay marriage (or some other practices) is for some an essential matter of salvation. If the denomination allows it, they say they cannot be in that denomination. Furthermore, they must denounce that denomination and its members as non-Lutheran or non-Christian.
   I have always known LCMS congregations where I would be glad to participate or even be a member. But even if I did not insist on raising the female or gay pastor issue, or if I did raise those issues for discussion, I would be run out.
   As an internal juridical or fellowship matter, that’s one thing. As a judgment on my faith or a condemnation of the denomination I would join that accepts gay marriage, that is something quite different.
 

You seem to think there are not also those who would refuse to be part of a denomination that did NOT allow gay marriage.

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Your Turn / Re: Where the Crawdads Sing
« on: November 16, 2022, 10:02:16 AM »
but it doesn't surprise me that professing Christians are portrayed as hypocritical.  That's been standard fare for a long time.

Like since Biblical times?

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Your Turn / Re: Whatever happened to Molech?
« on: November 12, 2022, 11:18:04 AM »

All I see when find Fletch 1 is the summary that I've attached. I suspect that you can see more about your own profile that the rest of us can see.

Interesting. I can see more, but I assume it is because I'm the moderator.

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Your Turn / Re: CUW next president
« on: November 12, 2022, 06:48:53 AM »

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Forum Blogs / Constance (Buszin) Seddon, RIP
« on: November 03, 2022, 05:27:44 PM »
You may be interested in this sad news. Connie was an ALPB board member for many years and was particularly involved in producing the Lutheran Identity and Christian Sexual Morality tract series.

Constance Ruth Buszin Seddon
October 16, 1938-October 28, 2022
Constance “Connie” Seddon, asleep in Jesus after a long illness at the age of 84. Beloved daughter of Walter E. and Margaret A. Buszin, siblings Anne E. Gruenhagen, Barbara K. Meissner, and John M. Buszin, dear mother of Katherine S. Frattarola of Lake Peekskill, New York, Andrew J. Seddon (Christine) of Roswell, Georgia, and Peter L. Seddon (Elizabeth) of Weldon Spring, Missouri. She has seven grandchildren.
Connie was born on October 16, 1938, in Fort Wayne, Indiana. She was raised on the campus of Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri, where her father was a professor of Liturgics, Hymnology, and Church Music. She attended Lutheran High School in St. Louis, graduating in 1956. She continued her education at Washington University, St. Louis, graduating in 1961 with a degree in English Literature. A highlight of this period was visiting 10 different European countries via rail in 1959-1960, in addition to being a guest student at the University of Hamburg, Germany for the remainder of the year. She then pursued one year of graduate study at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis.
Connie married John W. Seddon, Jr. in 1963 and moved to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in that year while her husband was a graduate student at the University of Pennsylvania, studying Landscape Architecture and Urban Planning. The family moved to Westchester County, New York in 1967 where she would stay for 36 years. She raised her three children in the family home at 14 Oak Road in Briarcliff Manor as a single parent after divorce. The family attended the Lutheran Church of Our Redeemer in Chappaqua, New York. During this time in New York, Connie worked at IBM Corporation for 23 years where she was Production Editor of Corporate Technical Publications and eventually rose to Senior Staff Editor for the IBM Systems Journal.
She retired and returned to St. Louis in 2003, where she lived on Rosebury Avenue and devoted time to extensive volunteer work with the American Lutheran Publicity Bureau, Society of the Holy Trinity, Good Shepherd Institute (Concordia Theological Seminary, Ft. Wayne), Bach at the Sem (Concordia Seminary, St. Louis), and the Concordia Historical Institute (CHI, St. Louis). She received an Award of Commendation in 2020 from CHI for her research in the early history of the Concordia Publishing House Music Department. She also wrote three articles for the CHI Quarterlies: Three Generations of the Family Buszin, describing the lives of Theodor, Paul, and Walter Buszin.
In retirement, she also enjoyed extensive travel with her close friends Carole Lexa Schaefer and Marcia Koenig to Germany, France, Italy, England, and all over the United States. Connie also enjoyed spending time with her seven grandchildren and participating in their activities. Most importantly, she loved sharing her father’s message of the connection between theology and church music. She emphasized the importance of Christian Baptism to her family, often reminding them that what God ordains is always good. She will be greatly missed.

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Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: November 01, 2022, 06:53:33 AM »

Following the EUB - Methodist Episcopal merger there was an unofficial policy of appointing former EUB clergy to former ME congregations and vice-versa in an attempt to soften the edges of both; but mostly these appointments led to mutual frustration and short tenures.


You mean the EUB/Methodist merger (1968). The Methodist Church was the result of the Methodist Episcopal, Methodist Episcopal South, and Methodist Protestant Churches in 1939.

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Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: October 31, 2022, 06:59:25 AM »
It's actually kind of remarkable how many bishops look at it as, "Well, with the right pastor, we can bring those conservatives into the 21st century."

Another issue is that, once a UM pastor is "received in full connection," he/she is guaranteed an appointment (there are, as I recall, some very limited exceptions, but it's generally true). So a bishop has to find someplace for each pastor. This sometimes means that a pastor is appointed to absolutely the wrong congregation.

I know of a congregation, once thriving and healthy, fairly conservative historically. A pastor was appointed who was second career, just out of seminary, first appointment. She came just at the beginning of the pandemic and made some typical newly ordained pastor kinds of mistakes but in this situation where she had not been able to establish trust with the congregation. Then she "came out" and moved her same-sex partner into the parsonage. Congregation in shambles, pastor moved to an even more conservative (but much smaller, more rural) congregation.

Bishops, after all, are only ordinary people. Some are wise, some are foolish, and all have to play the hand they've been dealt.

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Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: October 30, 2022, 08:57:21 PM »
If leaving is too difficult, getting kicked out may be easier. Simply erase all signs of UNC membership and join the new denomination. What are they going to do about it if you stop showing up at UMC meetings and events and stop inviting any officials from the UMC to come to the church?

Well, that's where their polity comes into play. Pastors are appointed by the bishop, not called by the congregation. "What they're going to do" is remove the pastor and send a new one, which would quickly get very messy.

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Your Turn / Re: What's Happening among the Methodists?
« on: October 30, 2022, 08:52:31 PM »

It's a bit more confusing than that. I believe that at least a couple of general assemblies (I think that's what they call them,) the U.S. delegates have voted to approve homosexual clergy in relationships, thus changing the Book of Discipline. However, the general assembly encompasses Methodists around the world and those from other continents have disapproved such changes.

It's called the General Conference. If you don't know that or can't figure it out, perhaps it would be well for you to refrain from commenting.

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Your Turn / Re: Convention Delegate
« on: October 27, 2022, 02:20:59 PM »
We had a guy in the Sierra Pacific Synod who, in decades of assemblies, never went to the mic except to move the previous question. We called him "Previous Question Hanson."

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Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: October 24, 2022, 05:17:23 PM »
My wife and I just got booster #3 and a flue shot. Sore arms and a bit of a headache the next morning, but that was about it.

I would have thought the flue shot would be given in the ash.


I hate to inform you of this, but you thought wrong. (Perhaps because it was given by a pharmacist at a Walmart, rather than in a doctor's office. Who wants to pull down their pants at a Walmart?)

Clueless.

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Your Turn / Re: Coronavirus news
« on: October 24, 2022, 07:01:17 AM »
My wife and I just got booster #3 and a flue shot. Sore arms and a bit of a headache the next morning, but that was about it.

I would have thought the flue shot would be given in the ash.

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: October 17, 2022, 12:53:05 PM »
If you're wondering why yesterday saw no posts on this Forum, well, we all paused while the Queen of Norway was in the Twin Cities and visiting the Norwegian Lutheran Memorial Church, Mindekirken.
https://www.twincities.com/2022/10/16/queen-sonja-lauds-minnesota-churchs-century-of-norwegian-worship/

Respect, doncha know.

Peace,
Michael

And here I thought it was the Bills/Chiefs game.

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: October 15, 2022, 11:49:48 AM »
I thought of 2 more Dems I would support--Grover Cleveland and Henry (Scoop) Jackson.

There's a new biography of Cleveland out which has gotten good reviews. A Man of Iron: The Turbulent Life and Improbable Presidency of Grover Cleveland by Troy Senik. On my Christmas list.

Opening sentence: "H. L. Mencken could be a real pain in the ass."

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: October 14, 2022, 02:43:31 PM »
I think he would be ruled ineligible, though I guess there's nothing quite explicit in the constitution about having to be breathing.

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