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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 24, 2022, 03:13:51 PM »
Ok, life everlasting. With a gracious God in eternity.
Life on this earth? Not so everlasting, for us as individuals or for humans as a species.

What makes you think that a new earth will not be here? What makes you think that we'll be some sort of a new "species"?


'Cause it says that the first heaven and earth passes away.

Tha’s nonresponsive, Brian. I said “new” earth, which assumes that the old has passed away.

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 24, 2022, 10:06:47 AM »
Maybe we won’t be at all.

So much for The Creed!  :o

So, now God is not only  not in control. God is a liar?   ::)

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 24, 2022, 09:25:25 AM »
Ok, life everlasting. With a gracious God in eternity.
Life on this earth? Not so everlasting, for us as individuals or for humans as a species.

What makes you think that a new earth will not be here? What makes you think that we'll be some sort of a new "species"?

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 24, 2022, 08:41:56 AM »
This is all Lutheranism 101, Charles. It seems that you've gotten so caught up riding your woke hobby horses that you've lost focus.

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 23, 2022, 09:11:44 PM »
Pastor Kirchner:
It must be a frightening world for one who thinks that God is not in control, manifested by:…

Me:
You don’t believe we have the capability to destroy the world, and that our sins might be leading us to do so? And do you believe that we are guaranteed that our species will continue forever and ever? I don’t. We might be a failed experiment. And perhaps God created a more perfect earth somewhere far beyond the range of our telescopes.

What I believe is that God is ultimately in control. We certainly can impact the environment, and we do, but we are not the “be-all and end-all” of what happens here on earth. God is, and his plan will triumph.

Yes, we have a responsibility. We are called to be good stewards of His creation.  We don't shrug our shoulders and say it doesn’t matter what we do to earth because God is in control. That would be similar to Brian theology. But, the world will end exactly when God intends. You err in your "could be" speculation that denies that certainty.

"Therefore we will not fear though the earth gives way,  though the mountains be moved into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam, though the mountains tremble at its swelling...

'Be still, and know that I am God. I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth!' The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress."

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 23, 2022, 07:06:30 PM »
Perhaps, Peter et al., this time the sky is falling. But you won’t believe it because the diagnosis comes from people you don’t like.

It must be a frightening world for one who thinks that God is not in control, manifested by:

It is us, And we could be bringing an end to the world quicker than God intended.

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 23, 2022, 12:17:42 PM »
And we could be bringing an end to the world quicker than God intended.

 :o

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 21, 2022, 12:20:23 PM »
Pastor Fienen:
In what way does the Lutheran Church Charities, the organization providing the K-9 Comfort Dogs, appear to not be specifically or solely LCMS?  Why do you consider that good?
Me:
There is nothing on their website saying they are a Missouri Synod organization. They are one of your RSOs. I found a reference to them, I think, in one ELCA congregation.
I would consider it good if Missouri Synod people and non-Missouri Synod people were cooperating in providing these interesting animals. I have known a few “service dogs“ over the years, and I found them fine critters.
Missouri Synod people have a long history of working cooperatively with other people in humanitarian efforts. My own small congregation organized and manages a food distribution program in conjunction with Feeding America and other local (non-Lutheran) churches that distributes about 50 lbs. of food each month to around a hundred families in our area.
We stopped doing our own little food bank in order to cooperate with NW Indiana food bank, which goes to a different church in the region each day but has the infrastructure in place to keep track of clients and do quality control and publicity.
In previous churches the local church cooperated with other churches in the area with a community food bank. We do not have the facilities to store and distribute food so we participate in the Feeding America mobile food pantry program. We get a truck load of food on a specified day each month, divide it up and distribute it to families who drive up for the food and at the end of the distribution give any food left over to another food pantry in the area. There are a variety of ways to host a food pantry program. Blessings on your efforts.


So, feeding the hungry is an activity where the LCMS can be seen as united with other folks, but when it is worshiping our God, they don't want to be seen as being united with other Christians. OK. Got it.

I deny your premise. Your God is not the Christian God because the Jesus you identify is not the Christian Jesus.

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 21, 2022, 08:16:21 AM »
Charles,

Are you okay? Your posts the last few days are making no sense. They are simply inane.

I apologize for ridiculing you, because I think your oppositional attitude is out of control.

Seriously, maybe take a break?

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 20, 2022, 10:49:19 PM »
And thank you for making light of the deaths of at least five people and the wounding and many others. Your first response was to project your own hostility toward someone you don’t like and an institution you don’t like.
We are a nation. What is preached in Texas (or even in Minnesota) can easily affect Colorado or where you live.
People died. But they did give you a chance to post your usual complaints.

https://m.facebook.com/k9comfort/photos/a.10150200660138010/10160877406818010/?type=3&av=638755788&eav=Afa-Zk35MEp5xDGZcNn6DqYQOFDEZ-wEB06MvoTNMPWeuKOisdTjFXZOjd2M_RjnDek&source=48&refid=52&__tn__=EH-R&paipv=0

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 20, 2022, 06:24:51 PM »
How has what you call “this evil” affected you? You may readily deliver the unrepentant “them” to Lucifer, but precisely how has their [same sex] marriage “befallen” you?

Now, though, you're in lockstep with John Donne.   ::)

We are a nation. What is preached in Texas (or even in Minnesota) can easily affect Colorado or where you live.
People died. But they did give you a chance to post your usual complaints.

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Your Turn / Re: THERE IS NO CLIMATE EMERGENCY
« on: November 20, 2022, 06:12:02 PM »
 ;D. Charles, I'm actually starting to enjoy your posts. You are hilarious!

I have an idea! Why not change the term "global warming" to the more ambiguous "climate change"? Then you'll guess that it will be more difficult to show your error.

Oh, wait...right. Never mind.  ;)

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: November 19, 2022, 10:25:43 AM »
Thank you! 

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Your Turn / Re: Roe v. Wade overturned?
« on: November 19, 2022, 09:22:50 AM »
An anti-abortion mover-and-shaker, now a converted, "enlightened" progressive, alleges a double-hearsay allegation that all the other parties absolutely deny.

"gaps" "strongly suggest"  <yawn>  Must he a slow news cycle for conservatives and libs with "Who cares?" stories.   
 ::)

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/drew-barrymore-done-everything-in-bedroom

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Your Turn / Re: Christian Nationalism? No
« on: November 18, 2022, 06:25:34 PM »
The issue never wa equal rights, it was the definition of marriage.

Uh oh! Here comes Brian!

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