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ALPB => Your Turn => Topic started by: GalRevRedux on July 02, 2020, 05:47:05 PM
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I tried to find the existing thread but could not. My apologies.
The Bee takes a jab at the ELCA:
https://babylonbee.com/news/elca-dropping-problematic-evangelic-lutheran-church-and-america-from-denomination-name (https://babylonbee.com/news/elca-dropping-problematic-evangelic-lutheran-church-and-america-from-denomination-name)
Donna
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Jabs ought to be funnier. I think I’ll write one.
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Thanks Donna for sharing this. The ELCA has definitely caved into the current culture
of our nation. They should certainly remove the name Lutheran from their endeavors.
The ELCA has made a mockery of God's institution of marriage by affirming homosexual
marriages of their own clergy..
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Ok, now we’re getting funny. ;)
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OK let's see.
Evangelical, definitely a trigger. There is a long history to this word but as we know positive history is no excuse for images that have been associated with with bad actions or attitudes. Evangelical has come to be associated with traditional, conservative, homophobic, misogynistic, predominately white (ipso facto racist) and cisgendered people. Current associations mean this part of the name really must go.
Lutheran, oh my no. Luther is an old, dead, white, cisgendered, European male. Could it get any worse? Well, he was also a known and blatant anti-Semitic racist. Although as forms of racism go, anti-Semitism is generally considered to of lesser concern and even indulged in by some current Democratic Congresspersons with only minor disapproval. Perhaps if they put out the story that they named their church after a famed civil rights leader they could sneak it through.
Church, well, maybe this could be kept but still problematic. Many groups identified as churches are notorious for using their supposed religious beliefs to justify discrimination against a number of oppressed groups. Does such an enlighted and socially conscious group want to have a name associated with such regressive and repressive groups?
in, a simple preposition, so probably not objectionable. It also provides the prefix for "inclusive." Although, "in" implies that there is an "out" which could be problematic for such an inclusively minded group. The jury is still out. Maybe another focus group could help.
America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
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Gosh Rev Fienen....
Writing as you have above may earn you job offers from NY Times and/or WaPo.
Given that you have on screen experience ministering to your flock may earn you a career behind the anchor desk of MSDNC and/or even the Communist News Network.
Please remain with your current call as a orthodox faithful pastor in the sea of heterodoxy.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
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Lutheran, oh my no. Luther is an old, dead, white, cisgendered, European male. Could it get any worse? Well, he was also a known and blatant anti-Semitic racist. Although as forms of racism go, anti-Semitism is generally considered to of lesser concern and even indulged in by some current Democratic Congresspersons with only minor disapproval. Perhaps if they put out the story that they named their church after a famed civil rights leader they could sneak it through.
Luther was also on the side of the police, as he encouraged the rulers of the German states to crush the Peasants Revolt. He was on the wrong side of history. Muntzerian would be a good alternative. Enthusiastic Muntzerian Church in America.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
One of these days those attempting to find fault with each and every historical figure will remember our Lord's admonition " He that is without sin may cast the first stone." Currently those attempting to rewrite history, ignore the faults and failings of their ilk while castigating those not of their own ilk.
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Pastor Fienen:
Nice try, but satire should be funny, not just bitter and angry. The bitterness and the anger is supposed to be masked in the humor and lightheartedness of the piece.
And the lightheartedness of satire has to reach beyond the conventional into the absurd. Consider Gulliver’s Travels, for example.
The Bee, So beloved by many in this modest forum, frequently fails in the basics of satire.
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Everybody's a critic.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
The ELCA has a chance to be ahead of the curve, for once. I'd bet that a majority of people on the ELCA Facebook page would be in favor of renaming the U.S. capitol, but probably not as enthusiastic about changing the name of the ELCA.
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We will not let these so-called evangelicals steal the word.
“Lutheran” is still a valid word, and we have officially, frequently and internationalLy repudiated end apologized for the anti-Semitic portions of Luthers writings.
“Church” is not yet a corrupted word
And “America” still a valid geographic description.
So, unfortunately for those who wanted to try, the ELCA’s name does not lend itself easily to parody or satire.
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We will not let these so-called evangelicals steal the word.
“Lutheran” is still a valid word, and we have officially, frequently and internationalLy repudiated end apologized for the anti-Semitic portions of Luthers writings.
“Church” is not yet a corrupted word
And “America” still a valid geographic description.
So, unfortunately for those who wanted to try, the ELCA’s name does not lend itself easily to parody or satire.
As I predicted.
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But I am not in favor of renaming the US Capitol.
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But I am not in favor of renaming the US Capitol.
Why not?
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The Bee announces the demise of McGruff the Crime Dog (https://babylonbee.com/news/mcgruff-the-crime-dog-put-down/) as part of this defund the police malarkey. Tragically some of the Bee’s satire is in danger of becoming reality.🥺
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But I am not in favor of renaming the US Capitol.
Why not?
Because it's the capital, not the capitol, that some want to rename.
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“Lutheran” is still a valid word, and we have officially, frequently and internationalLy repudiated end apologized for the anti-Semitic portions of Luthers writings.
You should consult with the former president of ELCA's Union Seminary concerning the value of heartfelt apologies and repudiations.
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But I am not in favor of renaming the US Capitol.
Why not?
Because it's the capital, not the capitol, that some want to rename.
Thank you for being the consummate wordsmith (https://www.grammarly.com/blog/capital-vs-capitol/) ... and for reminding us of basic linguistic principles.
May God continue to bless your retirement years.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
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I always liked seeing the DC license plates that had the slogan "Taxation without Representation" on them. That always made me smile and thought that was one small way to keep history alive.
The easiest way to clear things up regarding DC and representation is to just give the land back to Maryland. Everything that is federal can remain under federal control and the US Park Police or Capitol Police can be expanded to watch over the federal office buildings, White House, Cabinet office buildings, etc. The residential and commercial and industrial areas can go back to Maryland. Nothing will really change. Maryland is already controlled by Montgomery, Prince George's, Baltimore, and Arundel counties. DC is surrounded by Montgomery and PG counties. Maryland would add at least one or two more representatives, so the people would have their representation on the federal level. Eleanor Holmes Norton would be able to cast meaningful votes.
Jeremy
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Up thread the word “ilk” was used, and as sometimes happens I fixate on a word and will repeat it for most of the day.
Ilk.
Peter (Can’t get enough of ilk and elk doesn’t do it) Garrison
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I always liked seeing the DC license plates that had the slogan "Taxation without Representation" on them. That always made me smile and thought that was one small way to keep history alive.
The easiest way to clear things up regarding DC and representation is to just give the land back to Maryland. Everything that is federal can remain under federal control and the US Park Police or Capitol Police can be expanded to watch over the federal office buildings, White House, Cabinet office buildings, etc. The residential and commercial and industrial areas can go back to Maryland. Nothing will really change. Maryland is already controlled by Montgomery, Prince George's, Baltimore, and Arundel counties. DC is surrounded by Montgomery and PG counties. Maryland would add at least one or two more representatives, so the people would have their representation on the federal level. Eleanor Holmes Norton would be able to cast meaningful votes.
Jeremy
That sounds to me like the best idea.
Peace,
Michael
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But I am not in favor of renaming the US Capitol.
Why not?
Because it's the capital, not the capitol, that some want to rename.
Oh, I see. Thank you..
So he may be in favor of renaming the capital.
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No, I am not. But I am in favor of double checking everything when I dictate my response into this forum.
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No, I am not. But I am in favor of double checking everything when I dictate my response into this forum.
I think the gentleman was checking my spelling.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
Along the same lines, many designs of the New Mexico license plates have "USA" on them.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
Along the same lines, many designs of the New Mexico license plates have "USA" on them.
Yeah ... what a surprise that the citizens of New Mexico are proud to be citizens of the USA.
Most USA citizens are!
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
Along the same lines, many designs of the New Mexico license plates have "USA" on them.
Yeah ... what a surprise that the citizens of New Mexico are proud to be citizens of the USA.
Most USA citizens are!
The "USA" is put there because too many people from other states don't realize that New Mexico is part of the USA and not part of Mexico. One friend talked about arguing with someone on the phone in Florida who insisted that she needed a passport to travel there from New Mexico.
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Then there is the confusion between Washington, DC and that other Washington in the Pacific Northwest.
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
Along the same lines, many designs of the New Mexico license plates have "USA" on them.
Yeah ... what a surprise that the citizens of New Mexico are proud to be citizens of the USA.
Most USA citizens are!
That's why we need the border patrol and border controls, otherwise too many people would escape the horrors of life in the USA for the glories of life in Mexico and countries south.
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"United Church of the Holy Gentrification" is available....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzkJDyJjLBg
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America, just got to go. It has been demonstrated that America has a long history of racism, misogyny, homophobia, and oppression of the people who were here when the Europeans arrived. All in all, is there really anything great about America?
Don't forget that America is named after an Italian navigator. Not Columbus, thank goodness, but still an Italian interloper.
Our nation’s capital is named after both Washington and Columbus. Oh my.
An amusing/sad aside:
For a time, DC's drivers licenses were headed "District of Columbia." Unfortunately, a small but persistent cadre of TSA agents and others did not know what the District of Columbia was. They thought that the DC licenses came from some foreign land. To eliminate the resulting problems, the DC government changed its drivers licenses to say "Washington, DC." That episode strikes me as both amusing and pathetic.
Along the same lines, many designs of the New Mexico license plates have "USA" on them.
Yeah ... what a surprise that the citizens of New Mexico are proud to be citizens of the USA.
Most USA citizens are!
The "USA" is put there because too many people from other states don't realize that New Mexico is part of the USA and not part of Mexico. One friend talked about arguing with someone on the phone in Florida who insisted that she needed a passport to travel there from New Mexico.
Sounds like a symptom of an educational system deficiency. It seems my nephews learned states and capitals in elementary school ... middle school at the latest.
I may not remember every state capital, but most of them ... but then I’ve slept since then.😷
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Then there is the confusion between Washington, DC and that other Washington in the Pacific Northwest.
That’s simple ... it’s context or a simple question ... Washington state or DC?
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"United Church of the Holy Gentrification" is available....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzkJDyJjLBg
Oh, my. That hits too close to home. I wish they hadn't made the pastor a woman, but otherwise, its right on the money.
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PS - Don't get the bit where Prince talks about Wesley Crusher.
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PS - Don't get the bit where Prince talks about Wesley Crusher.
....Ouch.
***EDIT*** Now, THAT is some high-quality satire.
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“Lutheran” is still a valid word, and we have officially, frequently and internationalLy repudiated end apologized for the anti-Semitic portions of Luthers writings.
You should consult with the former president of ELCA's Union Seminary concerning the value of heartfelt apologies and repudiations.
That's "United Seminary." "Union Seminary" is in NY, and has no affiliation with the ELCA.
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Sorry, my mistake. Charles should talk to the former president of the United Seminary about how far a sincere apology and repudiation will get you.
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Then there is the confusion between Washington, DC and that other Washington in the Pacific Northwest.
When the spouse and I lived on Capitol Hill we both obtained local driver's licenses, but retained out state versions using our parent's addresses. DC is the one place where you can have a license based on your domicile while retaining your residence elsewhere - a function of legislators and their staff working and living in DC. I always just said I lived in DC and left out the Washington bit.
As per the Babylon Bee, their satire is often brilliantly accurate.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/nation-that-kills-3000-babies-a-day-feels-morally-superior-to-slaveowners-from-200-years-ago
I'll just wait for the obligatory comments about bitterness and anger...
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Then there is the confusion between Washington, DC and that other Washington in the Pacific Northwest.
When the spouse and I lived on Capitol Hill we both obtained local driver's licenses, but retained out state versions using our parent's addresses. DC is the one place where you can have a license based on your domicile while retaining your residence elsewhere - a function of legislators and their staff working and living in DC. I always just said I lived in DC and left out the Washington bit.
As per the Babylon Bee, their satire is often brilliantly accurate.
I may be mistaken. But in the Real ID era, I don't think that you can do this any longer. It's definitely the case that DC only issues Real-ID compliant licenses (except to those ineligible for social security numbers or are in the country without legal status). And federal law prohibits holding more than one Real-ID compliant drivers license or id care.
(Depending on the states involved, you still might be able to hold multiple licenses. However, this will be true only if (i) no more than one of the licenses is Real-ID compliant and (ii) the issuing state(s) of the non-Real-ID license(s) permit you to hold multiple licenses simultaneously.)
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This actually isn't the Babylon Bee. It's CNN self-satirizing. The Babylon Bee likely is upset at CNN for climbing onto the Bee's turf!
In arguing in favor or removing statues, Don Lemon said "Jesus Christ, if that's who you believe, if that's who you believe in, admittedly was not perfect when he was here on earth." Link (https://youtu.be/21Sbaiu89S0?t=93)
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Babylon Bee takes a jab at guess who, Joe Biden. https://babylonbee.com/news/grampa-simpson-to-be-voiced-by-joe-biden (https://babylonbee.com/news/grampa-simpson-to-be-voiced-by-joe-biden) I will confess to being culturally illiterate and not watching The Simpsons. I presume that the character of Grampa Simpson is the stereotypic semi-senile old man. One point of the humor is the current obsession with cultural appropriation, that characters should only be played by actors who are very similar. OK. But I have a problem with making senility a source of humor. I also have a issue with senility as Biden humor. In a way it has become too easy. It has also such a one note riff. Instead of actually bringing humor. Just call Biden senile and the humor is assumed. Trump humor has gone the same way. Its like comedians who substitute talking dirty for actually being funny. Mention Biden being incoherent and the humor is assumed, it's too easy and not really funny.
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Now this is Satire!
https://youtu.be/6kOesPt7iBY
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This actually isn't the Babylon Bee. It's CNN self-satirizing. The Babylon Bee likely is upset at CNN for climbing onto the Bee's turf!
In arguing in favor or removing statues, Don Lemon said "Jesus Christ, if that's who you believe, if that's who you believe in, admittedly was not perfect when he was here on earth." Link (https://youtu.be/21Sbaiu89S0?t=93)
Jesus must be rolling over in his grave. 🤪
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Just when I thought that we would now be safe from being stung by the Babylon Bee because reality was dishing up better satire than they ever could, here are some real zingers.
If the Washington Redskins could woke up, who's next?
https://babylonbee.com/news/chicago-white-sox-finally-drop-offensive-white-from-name (https://babylonbee.com/news/chicago-white-sox-finally-drop-offensive-white-from-name)
I've been thinking this for some time. Let's continue to fight to make people safe to make their choices!
https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-warn-murders-will-just-occur-in-back-alleys-if-murder-outlawed (https://babylonbee.com/news/experts-warn-murders-will-just-occur-in-back-alleys-if-murder-outlawed)
As we consider whether or how to go back to church.
https://babylonbee.com/news/10-tips-for-staying-safe-at-church-during-the-pandemic (https://babylonbee.com/news/10-tips-for-staying-safe-at-church-during-the-pandemic)
And, why not, it's Indiana Jones.
https://babylonbee.com/news/famed-archaeology-professor-resigns-after-several-photos-surface-of-him-in-nazi-uniforms (https://babylonbee.com/news/famed-archaeology-professor-resigns-after-several-photos-surface-of-him-in-nazi-uniforms)
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How about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oaaP68i4s.
Dave Benke
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Thanks for that, Dave. The words and fervor with which they were spoken say it all.
I guess I'm "cognitively there" too. This morning I remembered cream, coffee, butter, toast, plate. And then - twice and one hour apart! - phone, rug, wife, tv, shoes! Can you imagine!
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Thanks for that, Dave. The words and fervor with which they were spoken say it all.
I guess I'm "cognitively there" too. This morning I remembered cream, coffee, butter, toast, plate. And then - twice and one hour apart! - phone, rug, wife, tv, shoes! Can you imagine!
The cat is feeling quite neglected...
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Thanks for that, Dave. The words and fervor with which they were spoken say it all.
I guess I'm "cognitively there" too. This morning I remembered cream, coffee, butter, toast, plate. And then - twice and one hour apart! - phone, rug, wife, tv, shoes! Can you imagine!
The cat is feeling quite neglected...
One thing I would go for is a round of golf with El Presidente. We're pretty much the same age, and my understanding is that he actually can still play to a handicap of around 10 from the men's tees. He does have a course about fifteen minutes away which I haven't played - a bit on the pricey side even with senior discount. I've taken and passed - yes, aced - that test for the past five years, so maybe we can share anecdotes about how golfers would line up five items in a row: ball, ball, ball, ball, ball.
Keep your eye on the ball, dummy.
Dave Benke
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Biden Campaign Says He Is So Close To A VP Pick He Can Smell Her
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-campaign-says-he-is-so-close-to-a-vp-pick-he-can-smell-her?fbclid=IwAR0HTiJ1sg6z1Hx5BFto7HdjIenJnfrvjSoPeWROwAcoc6EhNWakIPvvoUo
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How about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8oaaP68i4s.
Dave Benke
Since Sarah Cooper has been on Tik-Tok, there was a thought that he wanted Tik-Tok off the planet because she's on their planet. However,
a) Microsoft is now in the mix for Tik-Tok, so back to America
b) It turns out many pro-Trump people really like the Sarah Cooper Trump lip-synchs, because.....they're funny. Her playing him and at the same time her playing some other role reacting to him being played by her is just funny on the face of it (since there is only one face).
Who would have thought that being funny might mean anything any more? Here's one from back in June - https://twitter.com/sarahcpr/status/1271650828785455104.
Dave Benke
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The Babylon Bee’s account of the entrapment of Nancy Pelosi at the hair stylist ...
https://babylonbee.com/news/new-tapes-show-salon-owner-luring-in-unsuspecting-pelosi-with-her-favorite-ice-cream (https://babylonbee.com/news/new-tapes-show-salon-owner-luring-in-unsuspecting-pelosi-with-her-favorite-ice-cream)
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Alas, this isn't satire, but it is hilarious. You have to read the article and realize it is true.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/10/20/facebook-demonetizes-babylon-bee-saying-acb-monty-python-joke-incites-violence-n1072750
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Move over, Bee, to make room for the Mennonite Daily Bonnet.
https://dailybonnet.com/new-edition-of-martyrs-mirror-to-include-section-on-minor-inconveniences-facing-the-modern-north-american-church/
;D
Peace,
Michael
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We will not let these so-called evangelicals steal the word.
“Lutheran” is still a valid word, and we have officially, frequently and internationalLy repudiated end apologized for the anti-Semitic portions of Luthers writings.
“Church” is not yet a corrupted word
And “America” still a valid geographic description.
So, unfortunately for those who wanted to try, the ELCA’s name does not lend itself easily to parody or satire.
Why was there more than one apology? Was there not forgiveness the first time? And was the ELCA apologising for its own sins, or on behalf of Luther?
I am wary of repeated apologies, as the current midnset of society is there is no forgiveness, only "perpetual confession".
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I not only enjoy the Bee, but it's off-shoot, NottheBee, which gives us real stories that sound like satire. For example, San Francisco is preparing to pass an ordinance outlawing smoking of tobacco in apartments, but not the smoking of weed. I know it's San Francisco, but could anything be more ridiculous than this?
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"Men Demand Reparations From Women Due To Eve Eating The Apple"
"At publishing time, men had withdrawn their request since women pointed out that if Adam had been there to lead his wife as the head of the household, Satan probably wouldn't have been able to trick her."
https://babylonbee.com/news/men-demand-reparations-from-women-due-to-eve-eating-the-apple
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"Men Demand Reparations From Women Due To Eve Eating The Apple"
"At publishing time, men had withdrawn their request since women pointed out that if Adam had been there to lead his wife as the head of the household, Satan probably wouldn't have been able to trick her."
https://babylonbee.com/news/men-demand-reparations-from-women-due-to-eve-eating-the-apple
Nice to see the Babylon Bee catching up to this forum! ;)
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"Men Demand Reparations From Women Due To Eve Eating The Apple"
"At publishing time, men had withdrawn their request since women pointed out that if Adam had been there to lead his wife as the head of the household, Satan probably wouldn't have been able to trick her."
https://babylonbee.com/news/men-demand-reparations-from-women-due-to-eve-eating-the-apple
Nice to see the Babylon Bee catching up to this forum! ;)
Nice - that clinking sound is the irony bumping into our forum furniture. 8)
Dave Benke
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"Pelosi Thanks Millions Of Babies For Sacrificing Their Lives For Women's Rights"
https://babylonbee.com/news/nancy-pelosi-thanks-george-floyd-for-sacrificing-his-life-for-democrat-fundraising
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"Entire Water Polo Team Drowns Kneeling For National Anthem"
https://babylonbee.com/news/entire-water-polo-team-drowns-kneeling-for-national-anthem
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Kyle Rittenhouse Asked To Step Outside And Defend The Courthouse While Verdict Is Being Read
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Just about as humorous as The Bee.
Harry Potter: Holiday Magic: The Official Advent Calendar Calendar
https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Holiday-Official-Calendar/dp/1647224098?tag=cnet-buy-button-20&ascsubtag=f25708029b8e4fd7b44c210893c6afd4%7Cc9c05d8d-d3b4-4001-9b73-91c6becc418e%7Cdtp
At least the Advent calendar with 24 beers that I saw at Costco Liquor has a Lutheranesque theme: beer. ;)
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Just about as humorous as The Bee.
Harry Potter: Holiday Magic: The Official Advent Calendar Calendar
https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Holiday-Official-Calendar/dp/1647224098?tag=cnet-buy-button-20&ascsubtag=f25708029b8e4fd7b44c210893c6afd4%7Cc9c05d8d-d3b4-4001-9b73-91c6becc418e%7Cdtp (https://www.amazon.com/Harry-Potter-Holiday-Official-Calendar/dp/1647224098?tag=cnet-buy-button-20&ascsubtag=f25708029b8e4fd7b44c210893c6afd4%7Cc9c05d8d-d3b4-4001-9b73-91c6becc418e%7Cdtp)
At least the Advent calendar with 24 beers that I saw at Costco Liquor has a Lutheranesque theme: beer. ;)
If you look down the Amazon page, you could also get a Star Wars Advent Calendar, a Nightmare Before Christmas, etc.
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"'Advent' is a decidedly NON-secular word. But there's nothing that increases excitement like a good countdown (just ask astronauts). I like to go with the traditional chocolate calendar but you can definitely get a little fancier. LEGO has a pretty sweet Star Wars calendar (which I know about because of my friend Nicole Bernard who took the picture above) and if you are still occupying your shopping (AS YOU SHOULD BE), Etsy has about a bazillion handmade advent calendars to choose from, like this one which is secular AND cute."
"The 12 Days of Secular Humanist Christmas"
https://www.kqed.org/arts/77801/the_12_days_of_secular_humanist_christmas
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From the Secular Humanist Advent Calendar article:
6. A Menorah
As a one-quarter Jew, I took up the tradition of lighting a menorah in college. I also go to the equal-opportunity menorah lighting ceremonies at work, which take place every single day of Hanukah. When you are celebrating SHC, it's important to be inclusive and to take all opportunities you can to leave your desk. Also, I think candles are fun and related to the whole Christmas lights/darkness in winter/pagan thing. I also love trying to chant the prayers and I always feel like people think I am part of something cool when they think I am Jewish, kind of like I am one of those kids back in high school with a huge family and five super hot older brothers.
My sister has a Christmas centerpiece that is a minimalist Christmas tree with a single candle on each branch - or so she thought. The first time she had it out my brother walked in and said "Nice Menorah." I walked in sometime later and said "Nice Menorah."