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ALPB => Your Turn => Topic started by: Harvey_Mozolak on June 16, 2018, 07:50:10 AM

Title: Scripture, pure reason and why not another?
Post by: Harvey_Mozolak on June 16, 2018, 07:50:10 AM
ML, of course is quoted as witnessing that he will stand firm unless convinced by Scripture (yes!), plain reason (OK, not sure what was meant by that German or Latin at the time) (note that he does not reference the BoC because, well, you know why) ....

seriously, Scripture, plain reason and why not something slightly along the lines of feeling, gut reaction, his Christian heart?  Certainly he was not putting plain reason on the same level as pure reason, so why not the other part of corrupt human nature... the ordinary compassion of the human heart?

now on the other side of the statement is what he had to be convinced of... the authority of Pope and Councils that erred...  and I know Lutherans tend to look down on Schw"armer.... but the  "enthusiasts, sentimentalists or dreamers" so called, is that less descriptive and more a put down name, not necessarily including anything to do with a plain compassionate nature?
Title: Re: Scripture, pure reason and why not another?
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on June 16, 2018, 11:37:12 PM

Perhaps this comment about "plain sense" helps define "right reason".

Mark Allan Powell writes:

Lutherans say that Scripture is to be interpreted in line with its "plain sense." This means that passages are to be understood in the sense that would have seemed obvious to their original readers. They are not to be taken out of context or twisted to be read in a sense that never would have occurred to their original readers.

This comes straight from the teaching of Martin Luther and, when he talked about this, he had something specific in mind. It was popular in his day for interpreters to come up with creative ways of understanding the Bible that never would have been intended by the author. This was done by finding "secret meaning" in the Bible that no one had ever noticed before. The more creative the better! (Opening the Book of Faith, "How Can Lutheran Insights Open Up the Bible?" p. 37)