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Title: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 11, 2015, 04:17:08 PM
Sorry that I cannot find v. 1.0 to resurrect. So, a new season, a new thread.

Here is the great news. On Sept 5, my Concordia University Chicago Cougars take the field at 1:30. At 7:30. my Notre Dame Fighting Irish take the field. What a day that will be!

And here is more great news: Showtime will chronicle the entire Notre Dame season.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/13417056/show-program-chronicle-notre-dame-fighting-irish-season
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: David Garner on August 11, 2015, 04:18:23 PM
I'm looking REAL forward to my Atlanta Falcons this season.  Between drafting Vic Beasley and getting Dan Quinn as the new head coach, I think this team is ready to make some noise.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 11, 2015, 04:35:55 PM
For the first time in 99 years, Notre Dame will not play
a Big Ten team.  The Fighting Irish now have a deal to
play teams from the ACC.  As they continue their trend
to schedule cupcakes the Notre Dame football team may
even schedule the Concordia University Cougars from
Chicago.  President Dr. Gard is willing to travel to South
Bend to make this game happen.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 11, 2015, 06:26:08 PM
But you are looking forward to watching the Notre Dame Football season chronicle, right Pastor Likeness? And all the games (which, by the way, are all nationally televised).

So much good news to improve your life!!!!! :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott8 on August 11, 2015, 08:09:21 PM
But you are looking forward to watching the Notre Dame Football season chronicle, right Pastor Likeness? And all the games (which, by the way, are all nationally televised).

So much good news to improve your life!!!!! :)

The ACC isn't bad.  It is quite cute in football.  Enjoy the second tier!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 11, 2015, 09:48:18 PM
But you are looking forward to watching the Notre Dame Football season chronicle, right Pastor Likeness? And all the games (which, by the way, are all nationally televised).

So much good news to improve your life!!!!! :)

The ACC isn't bad.  It is quite cute in football.  Enjoy the second tier!

I will still cheer for my favorite Big 10 team, the blue and yellow of Meatchicken. Of course, this is especially so when they play the Tattoos.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jim Butler on August 11, 2015, 10:54:05 PM
Football, the sport that combines two of the worst things in America: violence interrupted by committee meetings.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on August 11, 2015, 11:10:28 PM
Go. Bucks.

Did I type that right? The glare of the National Championship trophy makes it hard to see the keyboard.

Jeremy

And hail to the Redskins. They'll likely stink but that's the way the ball bounces.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dan_Biles on August 11, 2015, 11:38:29 PM
Football, the sport that combines two of the worst things in America: violence interrupted by committee meetings.

Original quote by George Will
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 12, 2015, 09:19:16 AM
Jeremy might be interested about a new book on the
 104,944 seat stadium at Ohio State University.
It is entitled:  "Under The Bleachers" by Seymour Butts.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on August 12, 2015, 09:26:16 AM
Jeremy might be interested about a new book on the
 104,944 seat stadium at Ohio State University.
It is entitled:  "Under The Bleachers" by Seymour Butts.

Pastor Likeness, why are you poking fun at a stadium built by Lutherans?

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jim Butler on August 12, 2015, 09:33:03 AM
Football, the sport that combines two of the worst things in America: violence interrupted by committee meetings.

Original quote by George Will

I knew I'd read that somewhere, but couldn't remember the reference. Thanks, Dan. Like George Will, I am a fan of baseball. That is the perfect sport.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Kurt Weinelt on August 12, 2015, 10:01:04 AM
And hail to the Redskins. They'll likely stink but that's the way the ball bounces.

True, but they'll probably beat the Cowboys at least once anyway!  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on August 12, 2015, 10:56:33 AM
And hail to the Redskins. They'll likely stink but that's the way the ball bounces.

True, but they'll probably beat the Cowboys at least once anyway!  ;)

That would be tremendous!  The NFL is better when the Cowboys-Redskins games are meaningful.  I miss Landry v. Gibbs.  And the Hogs.  And Riggins, Theismann, Monk, Dexter Manley...  Where have you gone Babe Laufenberg?

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Terry W Culler on August 12, 2015, 11:40:05 AM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on August 12, 2015, 11:50:55 AM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Amen to that!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 12, 2015, 02:39:41 PM
Since the year 2000, the Patriots have won 4 Super Bowls,
the Ravens have won 2, the Steelers have won 2, and the
Giants have won 2.   The Rams, Bucs, Colts, Saints, Packers,
and Seattle have won 1.

Bottom Line: The Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins
are soooooo 20th Century.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on August 12, 2015, 03:48:49 PM
I do enjoy a good match of handegg.

In truth, I appreciate American Football largely because of the strategy involved, as well as the fact that it's possible for lower seeded teams to become champions in a way that other popular sports don't have. 

I also enjoyed this (SFW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steverem on August 12, 2015, 05:33:15 PM
I do enjoy a good match of handegg.

In truth, I appreciate American Football largely because of the strategy involved, as well as the fact that it's possible for lower seeded teams to become champions in a way that other popular sports don't have. 

I also enjoyed this (SFW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0

I, for one, am happy that football season is here.  There's nothing like watching Messi weave his way through flat-footed defenders; precise finishing by the likes of Kane, Costa, and Ibrahimovic; and brilliant saves by Courtois, Cech, and Neuer.  Can't wait to see legendary of venues like Stamford Bridge, Anfield, Camp Nou, and White Hart Lane once again filled with passionate (and hopefully not violent) fans.

We are talking about the same football, right? 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 12, 2015, 06:06:26 PM
In college football, all eyes turn to Columbus, Ohio and the
defending National Champs, the Ohio State Buckeyes.  They
are favored to return to the Championship game this season
with Coach Urban Meyer.   He has more talented players than
any other team in America.  May the Big Ten Conference again
shine brightly on the gridiron.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on August 12, 2015, 06:42:35 PM
I do enjoy a good match of handegg.

In truth, I appreciate American Football largely because of the strategy involved, as well as the fact that it's possible for lower seeded teams to become champions in a way that other popular sports don't have. 

I also enjoyed this (SFW)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmXacL0Uny0

I, for one, am happy that football season is here.  There's nothing like watching Messi weave his way through flat-footed defenders; precise finishing by the likes of Kane, Costa, and Ibrahimovic; and brilliant saves by Courtois, Cech, and Neuer.  Can't wait to see legendary of venues like Stamford Bridge, Anfield, Camp Nou, and White Hart Lane once again filled with passionate (and hopefully not violent) fans.

We are talking about the same football, right?

I got a hefty giggle. 

If it wasn't for the flopping, and heavy corruption of FIFA, I'd probably follow it more.  I do think it's interesting how globally people still associate football with soccer to where google and youtube will show mixed results.  Maybe eventually American football will call itself something else.  I still prefer handegg. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 12, 2015, 07:56:29 PM
I do agree that O$U has a nice little program going. But all eyes on the Buckeye$? Perhaps to check out the tattoos. And basically in the State of Ohio.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on August 12, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
In college football, all eyes turn to Columbus, Ohio and the
defending National Champs, the Ohio State Buckeyes.  They
are favored to return to the Championship game this season
with Coach Urban Meyer.   He has more talented players than
any other team in America.  May the Big Ten Conference again
shine brightly on the gridiron.

OH yeah!  (See what I did there?)  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott8 on August 12, 2015, 09:23:53 PM
In college football, all eyes turn to Columbus, Ohio and the
defending National Champs, the Ohio State Buckeyes.  They
are favored to return to the Championship game this season
with Coach Urban Meyer.   He has more talented players than
any other team in America.  May the Big Ten Conference again
shine brightly on the gridiron.

OH yeah!  (See what I did there?)  ;)

Yeah, I did.  You stopped to avoid a misspelling (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7OC0YbG2fek/R4TITbpyRZI/AAAAAAAAEqQ/_-qKlWr0MUE/s1600-h/OOHI.jpg).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 13, 2015, 05:03:09 PM
The Notre Dame Football team has not been the undisputed
National Champs since 1988.   They went 12-0 under Coach
Lou Holtz.   For the past 27 years the Fighting Irish have been
wannabes on the national stage of college football.

Since the Lou Holtz era, we have seen coaches Bob Davie,
Tyrone Willingham, and Charlie Weis run out of South Bend
The all-time post season Bowl Record of Notre Dame is
17 wins and 17 losses.  May Knute Rockne the Norwegian
Lutheran who was their greatest coach continue to rest in peace.
 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 13, 2015, 09:29:11 PM
The Notre Dame Football team has not been the undisputed
National Champs since 1988.   They went 12-0 under Coach
Lou Holtz.   For the past 27 years the Fighting Irish have been
wannabes on the national stage of college football.

Since the Lou Holtz era, we have seen coaches Bob Davie,
Tyrone Willingham, and Charlie Weis run out of South Bend
The all-time post season Bowl Record of Notre Dame is
17 wins and 17 losses.  May Knute Rockne the Norwegian
Lutheran who was their greatest coach continue to rest in peace.

Heathen!  :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 19, 2015, 08:44:02 PM
Congratulations to the Meatchicken Wolverines. They are ranked in the top 20 (tied for #19)!

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/the-most-arrested-college-football-teams-in-america-081815
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on August 19, 2015, 09:29:45 PM
These are interesting

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/which-nfl-team-has-had-the-most-arrests-over-the-last-five-years-133357974.html

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 19, 2015, 09:38:08 PM
 On a sad note I remember the death of a 20 year old student
at Notre Dame in October of 2010.  He was in video tower
filming a practice in the football stadium.  The National Weather
Service had issued a wind advisory which was ignored by ND.
The gust of a 52 MPH wind took his life.

The State of Indiana issued 7 safety violations against Notre Dame
and fined them.  Coach Brian Kelley was in charge of the practice
session.  This death could have been prevented. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 20, 2015, 04:05:54 PM
It was that great theologian Tim Beckman  who said,
"It is not whether you win or lose the game,
but how you place the blame."

Mr. Beckman has the been the head football coach
at Illinois for the past 3 years and compiled a record
of 12 wins and 25 losses.  This includes 4 wins  and
20 losses in the Big Ten Conference.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 20, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
On a sad note I remember the death of a 20 year old student
at Notre Dame in October of 2010.  He was in video tower
filming a practice in the football stadium.  The National Weather
Service had issued a wind advisory which was ignored by ND.
The gust of a 52 MPH wind took his life.

The State of Indiana issued 7 safety violations against Notre Dame
and fined them.  Coach Brian Kelley was in charge of the practice
session.  This death could have been prevented.

Keeping up with the latest news, Pastor? :D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on August 23, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
It was the famous sportswriter Grantland Rice who wrote:

"For when the One Great Scorer comes
To mark against your name,
He writes...not that you won or lost...
But how you played the Game."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on August 23, 2015, 03:05:07 PM
It was the famous sportswriter Grantland Rice who wrote:

"For when the One Great Scorer comes
To mark against your name,
He writes...not that you won or lost...
But how you played the Game."
I can imagine that he might have difficulty getting that past a Lutheran editor.  :D

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on August 29, 2015, 11:12:35 AM
http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/08/army-too-busy-to-play-navy/
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 01, 2015, 03:41:15 PM
The college football season kicks off this week and defending
national champion Ohio State is ranked #1 in preseason polls.

The Buckeyes have two consensus preseason All-Americans on
both offense and defense.   Running Back Ezekiel Elliott and
 Offensive Lineman Taylor Decker plus Defensive Linemen Joey
Bosa and Adolphus Washington.   It is indeed rare for one college
to have 4 First Team All-American selections.  Ohio State also has
3 Second Team All-American picks.

Bottom Line:   The Big Ten Conference is happy to have Ohio
State as one of its teams.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on September 01, 2015, 04:38:00 PM
You are so right, Pastor Likeness. 

I am gearing up for a BIG football weekend.  On Thursday, I hope to watch the Browns not lose too horribly to the Bears.  On Saturday, I intend to experience my first Cougar football game (of Concordia-Chicago fame) live and in-person plus ending the Labor Day weekend by watching my beloved Buckeyes play on Monday night.

Now if only the weather would cooperate and be fall-like!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on September 01, 2015, 05:20:49 PM
See you at the Cougar game. You and your beloved are welcome to watch the ND-Texas game on my new big-screen TV in the evening. I promise to have Lutheran beverages.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dan Fienen on September 04, 2015, 12:04:49 PM
Noting the suspension of Tom Brady being thrown out, does that mean that now the Offensive Quarterback now sets the inflation level for the football?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 04, 2015, 12:25:20 PM
The freedom of Tom Brady means that the New England
Patriots have their quarterback for the start of the season.
The decision by Judge Richard Berman means that NFL
Commissioner Roger Goodell is losing the faith of NFL
owners to make good judgments
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on September 09, 2015, 06:18:08 PM
Will the Notre Dame/Michigan rivalry come back? Hopeful news here:

http://notredame.247sports.com/Bolt/Kelly-on-Notre-Dame-Michigan-series-I-think-its-trending-up-39295321
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott8 on September 09, 2015, 06:26:31 PM
Will the Notre Dame/Michigan rivalry come back? Hopeful news here:

http://notredame.247sports.com/Bolt/Kelly-on-Notre-Dame-Michigan-series-I-think-its-trending-up-39295321

Wahoo!

To mix references to particular allegiances up a bit...
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on September 10, 2015, 12:17:35 AM
Just heard in a commercial:

"[Fantasy football site] has definitely changed my Sunday! Made it a lot more interesting!"

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 28, 2015, 02:51:01 PM
The latest AP College Football Poll has 5 Big Ten teams ranked.
#1.   Ohio State  4-0
#2.   Michigan St.4-0
#16  Northwestern  4-0
#19  Wisconsin  3-1
#22  Michigan  3-1

The non-conference schedule is completed in Big Ten and now
the conference games begin.  This is where it gets interesting
as these ranked teams start playing against each other.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 15, 2015, 04:10:19 PM
What has happened to the once mighty Packers?  I have not been able to see the last three games.  And I am glad (that I have not seen them)!  Not since 1991 have the Lions won in Wisconsin -- and they play there every year.  24 years.  1-7 beats 6-2.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 15, 2015, 04:40:10 PM
Exciting ending though.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on November 15, 2015, 07:44:04 PM
What has happened to the once mighty Packers?  I have not been able to see the last three games. 

There's the problem, Steve!

So, who's in first in the NFC North?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on November 16, 2015, 10:52:35 AM
I blame it on the new McDonalds commercial with Mike Ditka dressed in a Packer sweater.  Ever since it first aired, the Pack has been losing.

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 16, 2015, 11:04:13 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen:   Next Sunday, the Green Bay Packers
will visit the Minnesota Vikings at 3:25 pm.  This should help
clear up who is the top team in the NFC North.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on November 16, 2015, 11:09:10 AM
Come on, Dave. Give us a week to be number one. I'm sure it won't last.  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on November 21, 2015, 09:41:36 PM
Michigan State fans are happy tonight http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-footbl/msu-m-footbl-body.html
"Michael Geiger kicked a 41-yard field goal as time expired and No. 9 Michigan State, playing without injured quarterback Connor Cook, beat No. 2 Ohio State 17-14 Saturday to snap the Buckeyes' 23-game winning streak."

Peace,
Michael

This Forum is getting a bit too serious: I had to go to p. 2 to find the football thread.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on November 22, 2015, 04:45:29 AM
In other football news:   Iowa wins the Big Ten West division.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 22, 2015, 10:12:17 AM
The Iowa Hawkeyes football team is living the dream this season.
They have an 11-0 record and will probably play Michigan State
in the Big Ten Championship Game on Dec. 5.   Next order of
business is to beat Nebraska this Friday.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 22, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
Most important is the news that makes even the angels of heaven rejoice: Notre Dame is now 10-1 and potentially headed to the playoffs.

NB: This is one of my favorite threads since a certain humble correspondent has no interest in football and never posts here.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Harvey_Mozolak on November 22, 2015, 07:36:03 PM
and so you had to bring him in yourself, sort of an illegal block....

worth a 15 yard penalty against you, IMO.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 22, 2015, 07:43:05 PM
Well, I was able to watch today's Packer game.  And they won.  They only lose when I can't watch, so I think the Packers need to make sure I am able to watch every week. :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on November 22, 2015, 08:43:13 PM
Well, I was able to watch today's Packer game.  And they won.  They only lose when I can't watch, so I think the Packers need to make sure I am able to watch every week. :)

What'd I tell you!  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 26, 2015, 10:27:27 PM
Bart Starr.  What a treat to see him at Brett Favre's jersey retirement ceremony.  For a kid growing up in Green Bay in the 1960's, he is it.  Always will be.  A great quarterback but perhaps an even better man.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on November 27, 2015, 01:23:49 PM
Yup, I guess he was seen Wed night at a Perkins in GB. No pretentiousness in that guy!

So, why did you change the channel during the game?   ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 27, 2015, 08:21:37 PM
I didn't.  The streak is over.  So, Eddie Lacy averaged over 6/carry (yes, he fumbled in the first half but still showed better hands than virtually all the Packer receivers!).  James Starks had better than 5.5/carry.  Aaron Rodgers and the passing offense have been terrible for over a month.  Yet when push comes to shove at the end of the game, for the last two drives, with the ball and the chance to win -- almost 5 minutes to go the first time; almost 3 minutes the second -- the Packers abandon the rushing game entirely.  Don't even have someone in the backfield for play action.  Or to catch a pass (they had almost as many receiving yards as the receiving corps). I guess the Packer coaches wanted to get more awful receivers on the field to drop the ball, or run the wrong route, or be missing by another errant throw from Rodgers.   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 29, 2015, 11:48:48 AM
With a record of 10-2, the Notre Dame football team can
relax now.   They will not have the anxiety of being in the
playoffs for a national championship.  May they enjoy their
Bowl game wherever it is.

Yes, the Angels in heaven rejoice over those who were lost
and are now found in the Kingdom of God.  The Fighting Irish
are still losers as far as the National Football Championship is
concerned this season.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 30, 2015, 09:43:15 AM
The four teams that will probably be in the college football
national playoffs this season:

Clemson, Alabama, Oklahoma and the winner of the
Iowa/Michigan State game.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on December 03, 2015, 11:49:33 PM
Wow!  What an ending.  I was just about to post "another loss for GB" and then .... WOW!!!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peter_speckhard on December 04, 2015, 12:21:17 AM
Indeed. What a glorious ending to an otherwise miserable evening.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on December 04, 2015, 05:32:45 AM
Detroit was given a fake mask penalty which allowed the Bushers to win.  It was, shall we say, very cheesy.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 06, 2015, 01:53:15 PM
The schedule for the national college football playoffs are set:

#1 Clemson vs  #4 Oklahoma

#2 Alabama vs  #3 Michigan State

May the  Big 10 under Michigan St. win the National Title again
this season like Ohio State did last year.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: readselerttoo on December 06, 2015, 02:00:16 PM
The schedule for the national college football playoffs are set:

#1 Clemson vs  #4 Oklahoma

#2 Alabama vs  #3 Michigan State

May the  Big 10 under Michigan St. win the National Title again
this season like Ohio State did last year.


I'm anticipating that Michigan State will win the national title.  MSU is my dad's alma mater!  Go Spartans!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 06, 2015, 07:34:17 PM
Two Big 10 New Year's Day Bowl Games:

#5 Iowa vs #6 Stanford in the Rose Bowl

#7 Ohio State vs #8 Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl

May the Big 10 win these Bowl games to bring joy to
our Conference and happiness to our fans.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Randy Bosch on December 06, 2015, 07:49:51 PM
Two Big 10 New Year's Day Bowl Games:

#5 Iowa vs #6 Stanford in the Rose Bowl

#7 Ohio State vs #8 Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl

May the Big 10 win these Bowl games to bring joy to
our Conference and happiness to our fans.

You must mean "my" as in "your"...
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on December 06, 2015, 08:59:32 PM
Packers re-take first place in the NFC North!  Of course, Mr. Teigen probably thinks it was the referees that cost the Vikings the game today too. :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on December 06, 2015, 10:27:33 PM
Two Big 10 New Year's Day Bowl Games:

#5 Iowa vs #6 Stanford in the Rose Bowl

#7 Ohio State vs #8 Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl

May the Big 10 win these Bowl games to bring joy to
our Conference and happiness to our fans.

True, that would bring joy to Big 10 fans. But a ND win over O$U will  bring joy to all creation.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 06, 2015, 10:43:17 PM
I am an Iowan by birth and a Hawkeye fan by the grace of God.
To see the Rose Bowl game in person in 1986 was a once in a
lifetime thrill.  Hawkeye fans are looking forward to playing
in the Granddaddy of All Bowl games as they play Stanford.

In 1986, Iowa played UCLA with Heisman Trophy runner-up
 Hawkeye quarterback Chuck Long.   This year's team has no
All-American candidates, but the 12-1 Hawkeyes are #1 in the
hearts of Iowans.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Fletch on December 07, 2015, 07:24:03 AM
Go Eagles!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on December 14, 2015, 09:28:38 AM
Packers re-take first place in the NFC North!  Of course, Mr. Teigen probably thinks it was the referees that cost the Vikings the game today too. :)

Now you can say that the Packers have re-taken first place.  ;-)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on December 14, 2015, 11:27:04 AM
Packers re-take first place in the NFC North!  Of course, Mr. Teigen probably thinks it was the referees that cost the Vikings the game today too. :)

Now you can say that the Packers have re-taken first place.  ;-)

 I missed the game yesterday as I was at the installation of Thief River Falls/Warren's new pastor.  As soon as the service was over, our district president (a proud Wisconsinite) and another pastor (also a Packer fan) had their phones out to check the score: it was GB 14, Dallas 0, at halftime.  A little whoop went up in the narthex from about half the pastors there.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on January 01, 2016, 04:34:15 PM
Anyone one to volunteer to console Dr. Gard?  Pastoral care may be in order.  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on January 01, 2016, 05:18:12 PM
Anyone one to volunteer to console Dr. Gard?  Pastoral care may be in order.  ;)

It was awful.  But my 2016 prediction is that the Fighting Irish will be back next year - healthy and in top form!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on January 01, 2016, 05:45:05 PM
Anyone one to volunteer to console Dr. Gard?  Pastoral care may be in order.  ;)

It was a difficult experience. Tragically, two ND starters were late for meetings and were suspended for the game - but that is how ND does things. Congratulations of Mr. Elliot's 4 rushing touchdowns. Hopefully he can also avoid his upcoming court appearance. :)

O$U does have an excellent team.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Satis Est on January 01, 2016, 11:20:48 PM
   Ugly is the only word for the Rose Bowl.

   But I am looking forward to the Championship Game on January 11.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 02, 2016, 08:10:30 AM
Looks like it was a day for blow outs with Iowa getting trounced too.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 02, 2016, 05:05:18 PM
Somewhere on this thread, Dr. Gard said that the angels in heaven
would be rejoicing if Notre Dame beat Ohio State on New Year's Day.
In his divine wisdom, God decided to give his holy angels a break when
the Buckeyes beat the Fighting Irish.

Bottom Line:  Notre Dame has a new policy of not scheduling Big Ten
Football teams for their regular season.  However, Notre Dame has no say
on who they will play in a Bowl game.  Congratulations to Ohio State
for giving the Heavenly Angels a day off.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 03, 2016, 11:38:04 PM
Wow! Talk about a heart-stopper!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 03, 2016, 11:44:38 PM
Don't see the Pack making it past next weekend.  Congratulations to the Vikes! 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 03, 2016, 11:50:27 PM
No, Pack.  No!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 04, 2016, 07:32:00 AM
Don't see the Pack making it past next weekend. 

As if the Vikings will?   ::)  What a Seattle-Arizona bloodbath.

But a first division title since 2009 is nice. At the start of the season it would have been hard to expect a winning season much less a title.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 04, 2016, 11:50:06 AM
I lived in Minnesota for 5 winters during the reign of the
Purple People Eaters under Coach Bud Grant.  They played
their home game outdoors and he refused to allow any
heating  machines on the Viking bench.   The fans were
dressed in their snowmobile outfits and a had a flask  of
Jack Daniels in their pocket.

The Minnesota Vikings finishing in 1st place in their division
gives them home field advantage in their first playoff game.
However, Seattle will be ready to take the Vikings on.  It
should be a good game.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on January 11, 2016, 01:46:01 PM
In further developments in professional football, the Cincinnati Bungles lost their playoff game. I truly wish I could revel in the fact that the Steelers won, but in this case, the Steelers emerged as victors because the Bungles shot themselves in the foot, metaphorically speaking. Still, a victory is a victory, even if this one had a Burfict ending.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: David Garner on January 11, 2016, 01:48:02 PM
As a Falcons fan, I can only take moderate solace that Blair Walsh made the 2nd worst choke in Vikings playoff history.  Gary Anderson, a great kicker in his own right, missed the one that ended up sending the Falcons to their only Super Bowl.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James S. Rustad on January 11, 2016, 02:00:30 PM
Hmmm...  Vikings lost and Packers won.  Guess I know two prognosticators not to listen to.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 12, 2016, 09:47:53 PM
Today, the Final Associated Press Poll for the 2015-16 College Football
season was released.   Three teams from the Big Ten Conference were
ranked in the top 10:  Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on January 12, 2016, 11:49:28 PM
Today, the Final Associated Press Poll for the 2015-16 College Football
season was released.   Three teams from the Big Ten Conference were
ranked in the top 10:  Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa.

That means 11 teams from the Big Ten Conference were not ranked in the AP's top 10.

zip+
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on January 13, 2016, 12:14:52 AM
Today, the Final Associated Press Poll for the 2015-16 College Football
season was released.   Three teams from the Big Ten Conference were
ranked in the top 10:  Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa.

That means 11 teams from the Big Ten Conference were not ranked in the AP's top 10.

zip+


Even after many years in the midwest, you still suffer from an unfortunate attachment to the Pac-8/10/12. 


I'm sure that we all can join in congratulating Stanford for finishing third, behind only Alabama and Clemson.  But Stanford is joined in the top 25 by only two other Pac-12 teams -- Utah (17th) and Oregon (19th).  By very stark contrast, the Big Ten placed six teams among the top 25 -- Voldemort State (4th), Michigan St. (6th), Iowa (9th), Michigan (12th), Wisconsin (21st), and Northwestern (23rd).  That means that nine Pac-12 teams were not ranked in the AP's top 25.  Only eight Big Ten teams suffered this fate. 


And by the way, ESPN is projecting Michigan to start next season ranked 3rd, right behind Clemson and Alabama. 

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 13, 2016, 11:31:07 AM
In the spirit of Christian charity, we salute the Big Ten for its accomplishments
on the gridiron during the 2015-16 season.  Those who live in the heartland of
America applaud the efforts of Ohio State, Michigan State and Iowa as residents
in the AP Poll Top Ten.  Those who live in Middle America as exiles from the
West Coast  humbly accept our condolences for your lack of empathy for our love
of the Big Ten.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 16, 2016, 11:53:35 PM
Wow!  What an exciting game, GB loses to AZ in overtime with spectacular play after spectacular play.  For as poorly as GB played so many times this year, I felt they gave all they could tonight.  If I were Coach McCarthy I would be VERY proud of my team tonight.  Wait, I am an owner -- I AM proud of my team tonight!  Now I cheer for AZ.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 18, 2016, 03:51:22 PM
As the members of our parishes prepare to host Super Bowl Parties,
we acknowledge the Final Four participants:

Carolina faces Arizona in the NFC Title game on Jan. 24
Denver opposes New England in the AFC Title game on Jan. 24

On February 7th the NFL will celebrate Super Bowl Sunday
Look for a New England versus Carolina matchup featuring
QB's Tom Brady and Cam Newton
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 18, 2016, 11:42:19 PM
I'll go with Carolina only because they've got DE Jered Allen, though injured. What a great guy!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 26, 2016, 04:01:09 PM
As we prepare our hearts and minds for Super Bowl #50,
we pause to look at the quarterbacks of the two contenders.

The Carolina Panthers have Cam Newton the 26 year old at
the helm.  He can pass the football for TD's and he can run
for TD's.  The guy is a dual threat.

The Denver Broncos have Peyton Manning the 39 year old
veteran QB.  He can still throw short passes, however he
is not a threat to run with the ball anymore.

Newton is 13 years younger than Peyton and in the prime of
his pro football career. Manning could be playing in the last
game of his career with a sentimental bon voyage.

Bottom Line:  Carolina Panthers are the favorites to win.


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 04, 2016, 02:03:04 PM
Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

Denver Broncos or Carolina Panthers?  Some of your parish members
will be holding Super Bowl parties.  Others will be eating your youth
group's Super Bowl sandwiches, pizza or soups.  This is an American
Holiday and church worship attendance will take a hit across this nation.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 04, 2016, 03:01:06 PM
Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

Denver Broncos or Carolina Panthers?  Some of your parish members
will be holding Super Bowl parties.  Others will be eating your youth
group's Super Bowl sandwiches, pizza or soups.  This is an American
Holiday and church worship attendance will take a hit across this nation.

I want the Steelers to win. That is absolutely, totally, and completely impossible since they aren't playing in the game, but that doesn't change what I want. What I want is what I want, even if what I want ain't never gonna happen.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on February 04, 2016, 03:15:43 PM
Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

Denver Broncos or Carolina Panthers?  Some of your parish members
will be holding Super Bowl parties.  Others will be eating your youth
group's Super Bowl sandwiches, pizza or soups.  This is an American
Holiday and church worship attendance will take a hit across this nation.

I want the Steelers to win. That is absolutely, totally, and completely impossible since they aren't playing in the game, but that doesn't change what I want. What I want is what I want, even if what I want ain't never gonna happen.
Not this year, George. And I'm afraid Ben Roethlisberger will wear out before we get to the Superbowl again.

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on February 04, 2016, 03:20:00 PM
North Carolina - Greg Olsen is a Wayne NJ local - played for Wayne Hills for 4 years under his dad's coaching.

And wishing the Monsters of the Midway were playing .
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on February 04, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
Go Lions!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on February 04, 2016, 05:38:36 PM
Carolina Panthers.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Fletch on February 04, 2016, 06:52:34 PM
Broncos for the SB (Peyton Manning is a competent gentleman).  I liked the Panthers somewhat until Cam started spouting off (Cam Newton is a competent showboater - it's all about me type which for me is a huge turnoff).   I would rather have had the Steelers, the Eagles, or the Seahawks, or for that matter, ANYONE other than the Patriots.   ;)

... F
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on February 04, 2016, 06:57:06 PM
Go Lions!

I prefer college football over professional leagues such as the SEC. Speaking of which, Michigan had a good day yesterday!  Rashan Gary!

As for the Lions, they hibernate begining in January. It's a law of nature.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 04, 2016, 07:58:24 PM
Without a doubt, college football is more interesting and exciting.
The NFL is all about money for the players, team owners, and stadium
owners.  Look how the Baltimore Colts bolted to Indiana.   Look how the
St. Louis Cardinals bolted to Arizona.  Look how the L.A. Rams bolted
to St. Louis 20 years ago.  And now the St. Louis Rams have decided to
go back to L.A.  How many times will taxpayers foot the bill for a new
team and stadium and then get jilted?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: John Mundinger on February 05, 2016, 08:29:44 AM
Without a doubt, college football is more interesting and exciting.
The NFL is all about money for the players, team owners, and stadium
owners.  Look how the Baltimore Colts bolted to Indiana.   Look how the
St. Louis Cardinals bolted to Arizona.  Look how the L.A. Rams bolted
to St. Louis 20 years ago.  And now the St. Louis Rams have decided to
go back to L.A.  How many times will taxpayers foot the bill for a new
team and stadium and then get jilted?

I agree with you, Pr. Likeness.  However, it couldn't be all about the money without a market, i.e. consumers.  And taxpayers foot many of the bills because those same taxpayers elect corrupt politicians to office.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Team Hesse on February 05, 2016, 08:39:38 AM
Without a doubt, college football is more interesting and exciting.
The NFL is all about money for the players, team owners, and stadium
owners.  Look how the Baltimore Colts bolted to Indiana.   Look how the
St. Louis Cardinals bolted to Arizona.  Look how the L.A. Rams bolted
to St. Louis 20 years ago.  And now the St. Louis Rams have decided to
go back to L.A.  How many times will taxpayers foot the bill for a new
team and stadium and then get jilted?

I agree with you, Pr. Likeness.  However, it couldn't be all about the money without a market, i.e. consumers.  And taxpayers foot many of the bills because those same taxpayers elect corrupt politicians to office.


Toooooo funny! "I don't pass judgment on anyone....." Tooooo funny!


Lou
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 07, 2016, 11:04:05 PM
Congrats to the 2016 Super Bowl Champs:   The Denver Broncos
The defense of the Broncos stopped the high scoring Carolina Panthers
with only 10 points.  The MVP was Von Miller who was the stalwart of
the Bronco defense.  May the 39 year old Peyton Manning enjoy his
second Super Bowl victory.   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 08, 2016, 04:20:49 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on February 08, 2016, 04:42:45 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.
Which conference has the Designated Hitter?  :o

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 08, 2016, 04:51:27 PM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 08, 2016, 06:09:38 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.
Which conference has the Designated Hitter?  :o

Peace,
Michael

He plays for the Bengals.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 08, 2016, 06:10:40 PM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

The Super Bowl isn't supposed to be for teams that are simply good. It's supposed to be for the two who are the BEST.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Randy Bosch on February 08, 2016, 06:20:21 PM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

The Super Bowl isn't supposed to be for teams that are simply good. It's supposed to be for the two who are the BEST.

The Super Bowl "World Championship" (?!?) is marketed as being for the two teams that are the BEST.  "Best", like many things, is based upon the system by which best is determined, including draft choices, experience, teamwork, conference, schedule, game climate, home vs. away benefits or detriments (if any), officiating, coaching from training to final game, scouting opposition, phase of the moon, asparagus crop, coincidence, and -- some believe -- money.  Cheerleaders don't seem to enter into the mix. 
The melange produces the "on any given day, any team can beat any other team" stew.
Sometimes, the best team wins; sometimes it wins enough games to make it.
Sometimes, not.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 08, 2016, 09:14:40 PM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

The Super Bowl isn't supposed to be for teams that are simply good. It's supposed to be for the two who are the BEST.

The Super Bowl "World Championship" (?!?) is marketed as being for the two teams that are the BEST.  "Best", like many things, is based upon the system by which best is determined, including draft choices, experience, teamwork, conference, schedule, game climate, home vs. away benefits or detriments (if any), officiating, coaching from training to final game, scouting opposition, phase of the moon, asparagus crop, coincidence, and -- some believe -- money.  Cheerleaders don't seem to enter into the mix. 
The melange produces the "on any given day, any team can beat any other team" stew.
Sometimes, the best team wins; sometimes it wins enough games to make it.
Sometimes, not.

You have confused the steps by which teams become the best with actually being the best. Being the best is measured by won-lost records, the strength of common opponents, yards and points scored on offense, yards and points denied on defense.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on February 08, 2016, 10:24:54 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.


keeping the conferences enables the NFL to optimize the number of common opponents for purposes of seeding playoff teams.


Divisional rivals play one another twice each year (6 total games).  All teams in each division also play eight common opponents.  Each team therefore plays only two teams not played by others in the team's division.  Thus, the standings within each division do a very good job of reflecting the division's pecking order over the course of the season.


Outside its division, each team plays half (six of twelve) remaining conference teams.  This creates a decent albeit imperfect basis for seeding within a conference.


If you kept the divisions but eliminated the conferences, seeding would be less good.  In that event, each team would play just 10 of the 28 teams outside its division.  Seeding would be much less reflective of relative strength.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 08, 2016, 11:24:41 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.


keeping the conferences enables the NFL to optimize the number of common opponents for purposes of seeding playoff teams.


Divisional rivals play one another twice each year (6 total games).  All teams in each division also play eight common opponents.  Each team therefore plays only two teams not played by others in the team's division.  Thus, the standings within each division do a very good job of reflecting the division's pecking order over the course of the season.


Outside its division, each team plays half (six of twelve) remaining conference teams.  This creates a decent albeit imperfect basis for seeding within a conference.


If you kept the divisions but eliminated the conferences, seeding would be less good.  In that event, each team would play just 10 of the 28 teams outside its division.  Seeding would be much less reflective of relative strength.

There is no reason to eliminate conferences for the purposes of scheduling, or for TV rights. They could continue the present practice of home-and-home against division rivals, and rotating schedules against other divisions.

This is the current rotation:

Currently, the thirteen opponents each team faces over the 16-game regular season schedule are set using this formula:
Each team plays twice against each of the other three teams in its division: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
Each team plays once against each of the four teams from another division within its own conference, with the assigned division based on a three-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
Each team plays once against one team from each of the remaining two divisions within its conference, based on the final division standings from the prior season: one at home, one on the road (two games).
Each team plays once against each of the four teams from a division in the other conference, with the assigned division based on a four-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).

Just change the name of the NFC and AFC to the CBS and Fox conferences, based on TV rights. But for the final playoffs, instead of two lists of six teams, they'd work from one ranked list of 12 teams. the bottom four "wildcard" teams would face the bottom four division winners in reverse order, with the top four getting a bye. The survivors of those four games would be seeded in reverse order against the top four teams. The survivors of those four games would face each other in reverse order, and the winners of those two games would play the Super Bowl.

That's not perfect, but it's an improvement over the current system.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on February 08, 2016, 11:28:46 PM
If you want meaningful games, its the Ravens against the Steelers.  When they're both in the playoffs, their game is the Super Bowl, the rest of it is just ho-hum

Dragging this to the top to make a point. It's not just Steelers/Ravens. It seems that in most years, the two best teams in the entire NFL are both in the same conference. That means that the Conference Championship is actually the most "super" of bowls. It's been 50 years since the NFL and AFL merged. None of the players from that era are still playing. Few of the players from that era are even coaching. I remember what a big deal it was to have the NFL versus the AFL champions play half a century ago. Now, between teams moving all over the place and expansion teams arbitrarily placed in one conference or another, the NFC/AFC division doesn't mean much of anything, except for TV rights.

Even the example of Steelers versus the Ravens is kind of silly. The Steelers were an old-time NFL team, but they got moved to the AFC to balance things out because Art Rooney was a nice guy and agreed to it. The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!

Can anyone think of a single good reason why the NFL shouldn't throw out the NCF/AFC conferences, and simply seed all of the teams into a single tourney format? That way, the chances are improved that the two best teams in professional football would face each other in the Super Bowl, regardless of what league they might have been in back when LBJ was President.


keeping the conferences enables the NFL to optimize the number of common opponents for purposes of seeding playoff teams.


Divisional rivals play one another twice each year (6 total games).  All teams in each division also play eight common opponents.  Each team therefore plays only two teams not played by others in the team's division.  Thus, the standings within each division do a very good job of reflecting the division's pecking order over the course of the season.


Outside its division, each team plays half (six of twelve) remaining conference teams.  This creates a decent albeit imperfect basis for seeding within a conference.


If you kept the divisions but eliminated the conferences, seeding would be less good.  In that event, each team would play just 10 of the 28 teams outside its division.  Seeding would be much less reflective of relative strength.

There is no reason to eliminate conferences for the purposes of scheduling, or for TV rights. They could continue the present practice of home-and-home against division rivals, and rotating schedules against other divisions.

This is the current rotation:

Currently, the thirteen opponents each team faces over the 16-game regular season schedule are set using this formula:
Each team plays twice against each of the other three teams in its division: once at home, and once on the road (six games).
Each team plays once against each of the four teams from another division within its own conference, with the assigned division based on a three-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).
Each team plays once against one team from each of the remaining two divisions within its conference, based on the final division standings from the prior season: one at home, one on the road (two games).
Each team plays once against each of the four teams from a division in the other conference, with the assigned division based on a four-year rotation: two at home, and two on the road (four games).

Just change the name of the NFC and AFC to the CBS and Fox conferences, based on TV rights. But for the final playoffs, instead of two lists of six teams, they'd work from one ranked list of 12 teams. the bottom four "wildcard" teams would face the bottom four division winners in reverse order, with the top four getting a bye. The survivors of those four games would be seeded in reverse order against the top four teams. The survivors of those four games would face each other in reverse order, and the winners of those two games would play the Super Bowl.

That's not perfect, but it's an improvement over the current system.


I'd argue that it's not an improvement.  There is so little overlap in the schedules of AFC (CBS) and NFC (Fox) teams that the records aren't good measures of relative quality when comparing a CBS team to a Fox team.


YMMV
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on February 09, 2016, 01:56:33 AM

The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!


That would be the Cleveland Browns, who were in the AAFC.  The NFL champion Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles in 1946, competing against the (new) AAFC's Los Angeles Dons until AAFC-NFL merger, when the Dons were merged with the Rams.

Pax, Steven+
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 09, 2016, 07:26:34 AM

The Cleveland Rams were from the AAFC and were admitted to the NFL, but they were also moved to the AFC. Then they snuck away in the middle of the night to Baltimore and the NFL made them change their name to the Ravens. So much for "historic rivalries"!


That would be the Cleveland Browns, who were in the AAFC.  The NFL champion Cleveland Rams moved to Los Angeles in 1946, competing against the (new) AAFC's Los Angeles Dons until AAFC-NFL merger, when the Dons were merged with the Rams.

Pax, Steven+

That right. I keep forgetting that the Rams abandoned Cleveland before the Browns.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Randy Bosch on February 09, 2016, 09:50:19 AM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

The Super Bowl isn't supposed to be for teams that are simply good. It's supposed to be for the two who are the BEST.

The Super Bowl "World Championship" (?!?) is marketed as being for the two teams that are the BEST.  "Best", like many things, is based upon the system by which best is determined, including draft choices, experience, teamwork, conference, schedule, game climate, home vs. away benefits or detriments (if any), officiating, coaching from training to final game, scouting opposition, phase of the moon, asparagus crop, coincidence, and -- some believe -- money.  Cheerleaders don't seem to enter into the mix. 
The melange produces the "on any given day, any team can beat any other team" stew.
Sometimes, the best team wins; sometimes it wins enough games to make it.
Sometimes, not.

You have confused the steps by which teams become the best with actually being the best. Being the best is measured by won-lost records, the strength of common opponents, yards and points scored on offense, yards and points denied on defense.

No, George, I have not confused the steps, I have addressed variables that affect which teams reach the Super Bowl.
I didn't even list "accident" - key player that makes the whole team click being incapacitated by injury, with loss of effectiveness and productivity for the entire team.  However, if you want to define "being the best" by "being the winner", go for extra yards.  ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: George Erdner on February 09, 2016, 12:19:47 PM
Major League Baseball had the same argument last Fall.
The Cardinals, Pirates, and Cubs had the three best records
in the National League, yet they were all in the Central Division.
Then the New York Mets ended up the World Series by defeating
the Cubs in the National League Championship Series.

If a team is good, then regardless of the setup they will make
it to the World Series, the Super Bowl or the NBA Championship.

The Super Bowl isn't supposed to be for teams that are simply good. It's supposed to be for the two who are the BEST.

The Super Bowl "World Championship" (?!?) is marketed as being for the two teams that are the BEST.  "Best", like many things, is based upon the system by which best is determined, including draft choices, experience, teamwork, conference, schedule, game climate, home vs. away benefits or detriments (if any), officiating, coaching from training to final game, scouting opposition, phase of the moon, asparagus crop, coincidence, and -- some believe -- money.  Cheerleaders don't seem to enter into the mix. 
The melange produces the "on any given day, any team can beat any other team" stew.
Sometimes, the best team wins; sometimes it wins enough games to make it.
Sometimes, not.

You have confused the steps by which teams become the best with actually being the best. Being the best is measured by won-lost records, the strength of common opponents, yards and points scored on offense, yards and points denied on defense.

No, George, I have not confused the steps, I have addressed variables that affect which teams reach the Super Bowl.
I didn't even list "accident" - key player that makes the whole team click being incapacitated by injury, with loss of effectiveness and productivity for the entire team.  However, if you want to define "being the best" by "being the winner", go for extra yards.  ;)

I am a staunch supporter of a team that wasn't in the Super Bowl because of too many key injuries. I'm aware that there are many, many, many variables in the sport.

Regardless of that fact, it still comes down to there being far too many years when either the NFC or AFC conference championships were better games because both teams in the one Conference Championship game were better than either of the teams in the other Conference Championship.

Nothing will make things perfect, but it is possible to make them better.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on February 18, 2016, 11:53:17 AM
Jered Allen. Minnesota rsident. One classy guy!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jared-allen-just-pulled-off-one-of-the-greatest-sports-retirement-announcements-ever/ar-BBpFvDx?li=BBnb7Kz

President of the congregation, John, was traveling on I-35 down to KC a few winters ago.Winter storm and he stopped at a truck stop along the Iowa-Nebraska border. Visited with the guy there for a while and left.

On the way back, he stopped at the same truck stop. The same attendant was there and recognized John. "Hey, you're from Minnesota, aren't you? I've got a story for you. After you left last week I got a call to pull a vehicle out of the ditch. My shift was ending, so I headed out.

Turned out that the vehicle was an SUV pulling a dog trailer with hunting dogs in it. Got the guy up on the pavement, and he told me to wait a moment. Went back to his vehicle and returned with a check that he gave me. I put it in my breast pocket, thanked him, and headed home.

Got home and greeted my wife, 'Sorry I'm late, honey, but I had to pull a guy out of the ditch. But he gave me a check.' Pulled out the check and it was for $2500, signed by Jared Allen. (He's quite the hunter and was heading to Missouri.)

Then had to decide whether I was going to cash the check or frame it! Figured I could frame a copy.  LOL!"

Allen was a very popular Viking. I was glad to see him get that sack in he Super Bowl. Always a personable guy, lives in Chanhassen. Obviously generous. Does a lot of charity work in the Twin Cities.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on February 20, 2016, 03:43:15 PM
Jared Allen made a valuable contribution to the Minnesota Vikings and is known as a great person. One of the most likeable Vikings is LB Chad Greenway, a South Dakota, who played in the Big Ten for the Iowa Hawkeyes.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on April 29, 2016, 10:42:51 AM
In the 2016 NFL Draft yesterday, the Ohio State Buckeyes had 5 players picked
in the first twenty draft choices.

#3 Joey Bosa to San Diego Chargers
#4 Ezekiel Elliott to Dallas Cowboys
#10 Eli Apple to New York Giants
#16 Taylor Decker to Detroit Lions
#20 Darron Lee to New York Jets

Previously, no college had 3 players picked in the  top 10 choices
or 5 players in the top 20 choices.  Congrats to the Ohio State
Buckeyes and Coach Urban Meyer.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on April 29, 2016, 10:56:34 AM
In the 2016 NFL Draft yesterday, the Ohio State Buckeyes had 5 players picked
in the first twenty draft choices.

#3 Joey Bosa to San Diego Chargers
#4 Ezekiel Elliott to Dallas Cowboys
#10 Eli Apple to New York Giants
#16 Taylor Decker to Detroit Lions
#20 Darron Lee to New York Jets

Previously, no college had 3 players picked in the  top 10 choices
or 5 players in the top 20 choices.  Congrats to the Ohio State
Buckeyes and Coach Urban Meyer.

G-O B-U-C-K-S!!!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on April 29, 2016, 11:09:14 AM
The silence of President Daniel Gard is deafening as we salute the Buckeyes.

May the Big Ten Football Conference continue to provide All-American players
to the NFL.   May Buckeye Deaconess continue to have sweet dreams of Ohio
State football as she resides in Missouri. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on April 29, 2016, 11:16:11 AM
Actually, I have no interest in the NFL so I was not even aware of the draft until I saw a Facebook post. I am a college sports fan. Concordia Cougars followed by Notre Dame followed by Annapolis.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Fletch on April 29, 2016, 03:12:40 PM
Actually, I have no interest in the NFL so I was not even aware of the draft until I saw a Facebook post. I am a college sports fan. Concordia Cougars followed by Notre Dame followed by Annapolis.

Where is your good taste, your respect for greatness and the awesome?  Where are the West Virginia Mountaineers on your list?  Go Mountaineers!   ;)

... Fletch
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on April 29, 2016, 09:30:53 PM
Go 'Neers! Let's drink some beers!

If Pres. Gard didn't have a thing about public urination, he'd probably root for WVU.

How are the prospects for the University of Delaware Fightin' Blue Hens?  Does Joe Flacco have any eligibility left?

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 05, 2016, 12:26:18 PM
Dr. Gard is feeling melancholy on this national Labor Day holiday.  He is recovering from the loss which
his beloved Notre Dame football team suffered last night.  The fighting Irish were ranked #10 in the nation
and were beaten by the unranked Texas Longhorns 50 to 47 in double overtime. 

Bottom Line:  Today, the residence of President Gard is draped in black and is near the Concordia
University of Chicago campus.   No classes were scheduled for today.   However, the chapel is open
for the consolation of Dr. Gard.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on September 05, 2016, 12:38:02 PM
Wisconsin upsets No. 5 LSU at Lambeau Field.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-upsets-no-5-lsu-at-lambeau-field-231217568.html
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on September 05, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
Dr. Gard is feeling melancholy on this national Labor Day holiday.  He is recovering from the loss which
his beloved Notre Dame football team suffered last night.  The fighting Irish were ranked #10 in the nation
and were beaten by the unranked Texas Longhorns 50 to 47 in double overtime. 

Bottom Line:  Today, the residence of President Gard is draped in black and is near the Concordia
University of Chicago campus.   No classes were scheduled for today.   However, the chapel is open
for the consolation of Dr. Gard.

I appreciate the sympathy.

However, I am actually still rejoicing in the most important important game in all of last weekend's college football. My Concordia Cougars defeated Ripon College 40-30.

Go Cougars!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on September 06, 2016, 12:05:57 PM
Dr. Gard is feeling melancholy on this national Labor Day holiday.  He is recovering from the loss which
his beloved Notre Dame football team suffered last night.  The fighting Irish were ranked #10 in the nation
and were beaten by the unranked Texas Longhorns 50 to 47 in double overtime. 

Bottom Line:  Today, the residence of President Gard is draped in black and is near the Concordia
University of Chicago campus.   No classes were scheduled for today.   However, the chapel is open
for the consolation of Dr. Gard.

I appreciate the sympathy.

However, I am actually still rejoicing in the most important important game in all of last weekend's college football. My Concordia Cougars defeated Ripon College 40-30.

Go Cougars!

Ripon College - I attended Badger Boys State there in 1963.  Happy to hear
a) that that school, the birthplace (am I right?) of the Republican Party, still stands
b) that they took the beatdown from the Cougars

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 14, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
As College football starts to warm up in September, we remember the coaching legends:

The late, great Knute Rockne , coach of Notre Dame said, "You do not SEE a good tackle, you HEAR a good tackle."

The late, great Bear Bryant, coach of Alabama said, "I run hard and difficult practices during the week.  If a player
is going to quit, then I want him to quit in a practice, not in a game."

Lou Holtz, former coach at Arkansas, Minnesota, Notre Dame,  said, "The player who complains about the way the
football bounces, is likely the player who dropped the ball."

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 18, 2016, 12:12:51 PM
On behalf of Big Ten Football fans, I would like to thank the Notre Dame Athletic Department for the resumption
of games with our conference.  It was wonderful yesterday to see the Michigan State Spartans come to South
Bend, Indiana and beat Notre Dame on their home turf.   Yes, the #12 ranked Spartans beat #18 Notre Dame
36=28.  The Spartans are still undefeated and the Fighting Irish are 1-2.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on September 19, 2016, 01:51:42 AM
Was happy to be an usher at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis for the Vikings  home opener victory over a division rival.  The half  time show had some real class:  the Minnesota Orchestra performed Beethoven's 5th Symphony. Simply amazing. Has the Green Bay Symphony Orchestra ever performed at Lambeau Field?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on September 19, 2016, 07:56:33 AM
Was happy to be an usher at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis for the Vikings  home opener victory over a division rival.  The half  time show had some real class:  the Minnesota Orchestra performed Beethoven's 5th Symphony. Simply amazing. Has the Green Bay Symphony Orchestra ever performed at Lambeau Field?

Not sure about Lambeau Field but:  GO BEARS!   Enjoy the Chicago Symphony on the link below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YeeoaVHSg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-YeeoaVHSg)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 19, 2016, 10:07:25 AM
We are grateful that someone from this ALPB Forum was able to attend the new $1.1 billion dollar home
of the Minnesota Vikings.  Mr. Norman Tiegen was part of the 66,813 folks who attended the debut of
U.S. Bank Stadium.  We are also thankful that the Vikings defeated the Packers 17-14 in their new
football palace. May Viking QB Sam Bradford continue to throw TD passes and have no turnovers. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 19, 2016, 10:44:16 AM
You're very welcome Vikings fans.  #FlyEaglesFly  And thanks for the 1st and the 4th--we certainly do appreciate it!

I was in the minority of fans in the City of Brotherly Love, who thought Bradford got a bad rap because of the bad luck of injury and circumstance over his NFL career.  Not every first overall pick, especially when it's a QB, is equally talented.  Expecting him to be Aaron Rogers because of his pedigree was unfair.  But last night, in admittedly just one game, he WAS better than Rogers, after having only practiced with his new team for 2 weeks.

Whether Bradford will lead them deep into the playoffs I cannot say.  I am more concerned to see my fantasy football first round pick RB1 being dragged off by 2 trainers into the locker room of a new billion dollar stadium.  Did they not have any money left over to buy a cart?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 19, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
On behalf of Big Ten Football fans, I would like to thank the Notre Dame Athletic Department for the resumption
of games with our conference.  It was wonderful yesterday to see the Michigan State Spartans come to South
Bend, Indiana and beat Notre Dame on their home turf.   Yes, the #12 ranked Spartans beat #18 Notre Dame
36=28.  The Spartans are still undefeated and the Fighting Irish are 1-2.
Yup, one more loss and the Irish will definitely be out of the national championship conversation!

If my sarcasm isn't clear:  one of the reasons I despise Notre Dame football is the conceit that many of its boosters expressed in the public arena over the years.  That just because they were Notre Dame back in the day when such things were decided like beauty contests, they deserved to be in the national championship conversation even though there were other teams with fewer losses.

Of course it was not just Notre Dame that had this bias advantage.  But the treatment of several great Penn State teams over the years, when in the mix for the national championship, is a counter-example.  And why I generally had little respect for college football, because it wasn't actually settled on the field.  Today's football playoff system is a great improvement.
 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peterm on September 19, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Here behind the corn curtain in Iowa a number of folks were stunned by the NDSU Bison victory against the Hawkeyes
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on September 19, 2016, 11:44:00 AM
Was happy to be an usher at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minneapolis for the Vikings  home opener victory over a division rival.  The half  time show had some real class:  the Minnesota Orchestra performed Beethoven's 5th Symphony. Simply amazing. Has the Green Bay Symphony Orchestra ever performed at Lambeau Field?

No longer a possibility:  http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/2015/04/09/green-bay-symphony-orchestra-taking-final-bow/25556971/

However, the Packers have far higher standards for offerings of song than the less-in-tune Vikings:

http://search.aol.com/aol/video?q=You+Tube+Green+Bay+Packer+Fans+singing&s_it=video-ans&sfVid=true&videoId=4E48E2C77D2C6D9896844E48E2C77D2C6D989684&v_t=webmail-searchbox

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 19, 2016, 11:50:44 AM
On behalf of Big Ten Football fans, I would like to thank the Notre Dame Athletic Department for the resumption
of games with our conference.  It was wonderful yesterday to see the Michigan State Spartans come to South
Bend, Indiana and beat Notre Dame on their home turf.   Yes, the #12 ranked Spartans beat #18 Notre Dame
36=28.  The Spartans are still undefeated and the Fighting Irish are 1-2.
Yup, one more loss and the Irish will definitely be out of the national championship conversation!

If my sarcasm isn't clear:  one of the reasons I despise Notre Dame football is the conceit that many of its boosters expressed in the public arena over the years.  That just because they were Notre Dame back in the day when such things were decided like beauty contests, they deserved to be in the national championship conversation even though there were other teams with fewer losses.

Of course it was not just Notre Dame that had this bias advantage.  But the treatment of several great Penn State teams over the years, when in the mix for the national championship, is a counter-example.  And why I generally had little respect for college football, because it wasn't actually settled on the field.  Today's football playoff system is a great improvement.


I love college football.  But it is anomalous among American sports.  You say that until the playoff its championship "wasn't settled on the field," which is true.  In fact, it wasn't truly settled at all.  That's why we often spoke of the "MNC" (mythical national championship).  Schools of course claimed titles.  But they all were really just polls with no official status whatever.  None of this bothered me, frankly.  It led to never-ending arguments among rivals over which team truly was best.


I do enjoy the current playoff, though.


As for Penn State, I'm more than a little troubled at the failure there to fully come to grips with what happened there.  Honoring Paterno this past weekend was an awful mistake.  A time may come for honoring the good parts of his legacy.  But that time is not now.  Not yet.  Not close. 


This column helps explain why. (http://theundefeated.com/features/penn-state-doesnt-get-to-decide-joe-paternos-legacy/)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on September 19, 2016, 12:43:11 PM
On behalf of Big Ten Football fans, I would like to thank the Notre Dame Athletic Department for the resumption
of games with our conference.  It was wonderful yesterday to see the Michigan State Spartans come to South
Bend, Indiana and beat Notre Dame on their home turf.   Yes, the #12 ranked Spartans beat #18 Notre Dame
36=28.  The Spartans are still undefeated and the Fighting Irish are 1-2.
Yup, one more loss and the Irish will definitely be out of the national championship conversation!

If my sarcasm isn't clear:  one of the reasons I despise Notre Dame football is the conceit that many of its boosters expressed in the public arena over the years.  That just because they were Notre Dame back in the day when such things were decided like beauty contests, they deserved to be in the national championship conversation even though there were other teams with fewer losses.

Of course it was not just Notre Dame that had this bias advantage.  But the treatment of several great Penn State teams over the years, when in the mix for the national championship, is a counter-example.  And why I generally had little respect for college football, because it wasn't actually settled on the field.  Today's football playoff system is a great improvement.


I love college football.  But it is anomalous among American sports.  You say that until the playoff its championship "wasn't settled on the field," which is true.  In fact, it wasn't truly settled at all.  That's why we often spoke of the "MNC" (mythical national championship).  Schools of course claimed titles.  But they all were really just polls with no official status whatever.  None of this bothered me, frankly.  It led to never-ending arguments among rivals over which team truly was best.


I do enjoy the current playoff, though.


As for Penn State, I'm more than a little troubled at the failure there to fully come to grips with what happened there.  Honoring Paterno this past weekend was an awful mistake.  A time may come for honoring the good parts of his legacy.  But that time is not now.  Not yet.  Not close. 


This column helps explain why. (http://theundefeated.com/features/penn-state-doesnt-get-to-decide-joe-paternos-legacy/)

You raise an interesting point.  My nephew had just graduated from Penn State when the scandal occurred.  He never played football, but Joe Paterno was a legend on campus and interacted not only with the football team, but with all students.  My nephew felt he really cared for them.  He was quite upset, to put it mildly, and said as one who becomes a boy again for a moment in the face of tragedy, "He always told us to do the right thing; and he didn't."

My husband and I discussed the honoring of the honoring of Joe Paterno this past weekend with our nephew.  One grieves for those children who had their innocence and trust taken away from them.  And, I'm sure you can sense a but coming, it was from all reports low key.  Yes, when his picture came on the board students cheered.  He is still a legend on campus. 

We will never know what Joe P knew - or didn't know.  We will never know the extent of what had happened.  Could he comprehend all that had gone on.  I'm not making excuses except to say that the students have been punished as well as those who perpetrated this tragedy.  Sanctions against the team were enacted, some later recalled, which did hurt the coaches.  But, also hurt students who simply played football.  I've looked through a number of articles and all suggest "staff" may have been aware; none reported that other students knew.

Sandusky is in prison and will be for a long time, most likely the rest of his life.  I'm sure that doesn't eliminate the pain of the victims, but I hope it serves to show that there is some justice for what happened.  Penn State is a school that enjoys its rich tradition of football and I'm just not certain how punishing (for that what it amounts to) the student body in any way mitigates the crime. 

If this tribute had been excessive, had it been for any other reason than an anniversary, e.g., let's have Joe Pa Day - I'd think it improper.  But, again, it was done low key and the student reaction really cannot be contained.  Of the thousands of students attending that game, I know two.  Both are caring individuals who serve in the church and in the community.  They are not without empathy.  And yet, I do think they probably cheered - not a man who may (or may not) have known of the sexual perversion and actions of someone reporting to him, but for the tradition of Penn State. 

At the very end of the graduation, the graduates pronounce, "We are Penn State."  And they should have that pride just as other universities have college pride.  They cannot wear the proverbial scarlet A  because of actions well out of their control. 

Wish I was a fan of a non de plume, for I'd have chosen, A Proud Aunt.   As it is, I feel very vulnerable in posting this and yet I do think many went too far in placing the whole school (read: student body) in the basket of deplorables.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 19, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
Thanks for the reply, James.  First, let me make clear that you will not hear me defend the post-Paterno Penn State handling of the Sandusky situation at all.  It is indefensible.  I do think that some quarters have overreacted for the wrong reasons (such as taking away PSU wins).  But I also think the Penn State faithful are still in denial, and this continues because they are a bit insular.  Insular in part because of the way they were always outsiders on the Division I-A stage compared to the likes of Notre Dame, Michigan, et al.  That's not an excuse so much as a diagnosis for their collective tone deafness.   I do recognize that it is complicated, and many people are being stigmatized who do not deserve it and had nothing to do with it.  I can understand 1975 Joe Paterno not initially recognizing such a predator.  But not after the second and third times.

Personally I root for Penn State the way I assume a lot of Michigan residents root for U of M--whereas western PA was always U of Pitt territory, back when that was the ultimate rivalry game.  Before PSU joined the Big Ten and they "created" (http://blog.pennlive.com/pennstatefootball/2006/11/dumbest_trophy_ever.html) a rivalry with Michigan State for the "coveted" "Land Grant Trophy" (http://www.pennlive.com/sports/index.ssf/2014/11/for_the_land_grant_trophy_two.html).  As you may already know.  A really poor man's Little Brown Jug or something.  And I may have outdone myself here with the excessive use of scare quotes--that's probably a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty.

Don't get me wrong, I do find some entertainment with college football.  Things have overall evolved for the better.  Although the superconference phenomenon is just the television money evolution of the old "old boy" system, with the tent expanded.  Still it does allow for things to be settled on the field.  I do recognize there were legitimate reasons in the old days why that couldn't always be.  It was necessary to break the competing stranglehold the old bowl system had, which wasn't going to happen overnight.  But the bad taste left in my mouth, with the system for deciding the "mythical national championship" having way too much in common with gymnastics and ice skating judging, is not easily over come.

Plus, the hype that still surrounds certain college football standouts (*cough cough* Tim Tebow, not good enough to play for Chip Kelly's Philadelphia Eagles).  Being told how spectacular certain players are, who turn out not even marginally competitive in the NFL, is too much like the story of the boy who cried wolf.  No thank you, I have better things to do with my time than watch your fraudulent college game day studio cheerleading.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 19, 2016, 03:51:55 PM
On behalf of Big Ten Football fans, I would like to thank the Notre Dame Athletic Department for the resumption
of games with our conference.  It was wonderful yesterday to see the Michigan State Spartans come to South
Bend, Indiana and beat Notre Dame on their home turf.   Yes, the #12 ranked Spartans beat #18 Notre Dame
36=28.  The Spartans are still undefeated and the Fighting Irish are 1-2.
Yup, one more loss and the Irish will definitely be out of the national championship conversation!

If my sarcasm isn't clear:  one of the reasons I despise Notre Dame football is the conceit that many of its boosters expressed in the public arena over the years.  That just because they were Notre Dame back in the day when such things were decided like beauty contests, they deserved to be in the national championship conversation even though there were other teams with fewer losses.

Of course it was not just Notre Dame that had this bias advantage.  But the treatment of several great Penn State teams over the years, when in the mix for the national championship, is a counter-example.  And why I generally had little respect for college football, because it wasn't actually settled on the field.  Today's football playoff system is a great improvement.


I love college football.  But it is anomalous among American sports.  You say that until the playoff its championship "wasn't settled on the field," which is true.  In fact, it wasn't truly settled at all.  That's why we often spoke of the "MNC" (mythical national championship).  Schools of course claimed titles.  But they all were really just polls with no official status whatever.  None of this bothered me, frankly.  It led to never-ending arguments among rivals over which team truly was best.


I do enjoy the current playoff, though.


As for Penn State, I'm more than a little troubled at the failure there to fully come to grips with what happened there.  Honoring Paterno this past weekend was an awful mistake.  A time may come for honoring the good parts of his legacy.  But that time is not now.  Not yet.  Not close. 


This column helps explain why. (http://theundefeated.com/features/penn-state-doesnt-get-to-decide-joe-paternos-legacy/)

You raise an interesting point.  My nephew had just graduated from Penn State when the scandal occurred.  He never played football, but Joe Paterno was a legend on campus and interacted not only with the football team, but with all students.  My nephew felt he really cared for them.  He was quite upset, to put it mildly, and said as one who becomes a boy again for a moment in the face of tragedy, "He always told us to do the right thing; and he didn't."

My husband and I discussed the honoring of the honoring of Joe Paterno this past weekend with our nephew.  One grieves for those children who had their innocence and trust taken away from them.  And, I'm sure you can sense a but coming, it was from all reports low key.  Yes, when his picture came on the board students cheered.  He is still a legend on campus. 

We will never know what Joe P knew - or didn't know.  We will never know the extent of what had happened.  Could he comprehend all that had gone on.  I'm not making excuses except to say that the students have been punished as well as those who perpetrated this tragedy.  Sanctions against the team were enacted, some later recalled, which did hurt the coaches.  But, also hurt students who simply played football.  I've looked through a number of articles and all suggest "staff" may have been aware; none reported that other students knew.

Sandusky is in prison and will be for a long time, most likely the rest of his life.  I'm sure that doesn't eliminate the pain of the victims, but I hope it serves to show that there is some justice for what happened.  Penn State is a school that enjoys its rich tradition of football and I'm just not certain how punishing (for that what it amounts to) the student body in any way mitigates the crime. 

If this tribute had been excessive, had it been for any other reason than an anniversary, e.g., let's have Joe Pa Day - I'd think it improper.  But, again, it was done low key and the student reaction really cannot be contained.  Of the thousands of students attending that game, I know two.  Both are caring individuals who serve in the church and in the community.  They are not without empathy.  And yet, I do think they probably cheered - not a man who may (or may not) have known of the sexual perversion and actions of someone reporting to him, but for the tradition of Penn State. 

At the very end of the graduation, the graduates pronounce, "We are Penn State."  And they should have that pride just as other universities have college pride.  They cannot wear the proverbial scarlet A  because of actions well out of their control. 

Wish I was a fan of a non de plume, for I'd have chosen, A Proud Aunt.   As it is, I feel very vulnerable in posting this and yet I do think many went too far in placing the whole school (read: student body) in the basket of deplorables.


I certainly agree that we ought not punish today's students.  But some lingering impact is unavoidable.


Honoring Paterno now, however, is not okay.  These guys (https://twitter.com/ChrisAbaray/status/777247864930066432) apparently at the game on Saturday.  Denial runs far too deep.  Someday, after a public reckoning by the university (which has not really happened), it may well be possible to honor the good that Paterno did.  But not until the core of the university is ready to admit that Paterno and many others enabled Sandusky's abuse for a very long time.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on September 19, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
I repeat this because it's worth repeating:


http://search.aol.com/aol/video?q=You+Tube+Green+Bay+Packer+Fans+singing&s_it=video-ans&sfVid=true&videoId=4E48E2C77D2C6D9896844E48E2C77D2C6D989684&v_t=webmail-searchbox

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on September 19, 2016, 03:59:01 PM
Here behind the corn curtain in Iowa a number of folks were stunned by the NDSU Bison victory against the Hawkeyes

Really?

"North Dakota State has now won six consecutive games against FBS teams dating back to 2010. They’ve collected $2.175 million from the teams they beat, including $500,000 from Iowa today."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on September 19, 2016, 04:07:26 PM
Here behind the corn curtain in Iowa a number of folks were stunned by the NDSU Bison victory against the Hawkeyes

Really?

"North Dakota State has now won six consecutive games against FBS teams dating back to 2010. They’ve collected $2.175 million from the teams they beat, including $500,000 from Iowa today."

The headline article in today's NYT sports was about a smaller school, South Carolina State, playing Clemson and getting wiped out, 59-0 or something like that, for which they were paid $300000.  So the smaller schools in my opinion need to get more if they beat the big boys, not so?  $300k if you lose and only $500k if you win - what the heck.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on September 19, 2016, 06:43:29 PM
Many  Minnesotans acknowledge Green Bay championships  but consider Wisconsin  a cultural and political wasteland.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 19, 2016, 07:25:57 PM
Norm, you might want to be more careful about the political wasteland of Minnesota.........
You had Jesse Ventura, a pro wrestler, as your Governor and you have Al Franken,
a comedian, as your current U.S. Senator.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on September 19, 2016, 08:16:24 PM
Many  Minnesotans acknowledge Green Bay championships  but consider Wisconsin  a cultural and political wasteland.

I like that you usher at all those games.  Better a doorkeeper in the tents of righteousness.....
The operating question is whether you can get comped tickets.  You then become a potential MVU

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peterm on September 20, 2016, 11:20:09 AM
Here behind the corn curtain in Iowa a number of folks were stunned by the NDSU Bison victory against the Hawkeyes

Really?

"North Dakota State has now won six consecutive games against FBS teams dating back to 2010. They’ve collected $2.175 million from the teams they beat, including $500,000 from Iowa today."

You have to realize Pastor K that the Hawkeye's fans see themselves as top of the football heap here in Iowa and went undefeated last year.  Thus to be beat by NDSU which is not even a D1 school is a shock for many fans
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on September 20, 2016, 11:46:11 AM
You have to realize Pastor K that the Hawkeye's fans see themselves as top of the football heap here in Iowa and went undefeated last year.  Thus to be beat by NDSU which is not even a D1 school is a shock for many fans
NDSU is a Division I school in all sports, including football--where it is in the "Football Championship Subdivision," as distinguished from the "Football Bowl Subdivision." It's about money and budgets.

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peterm on September 20, 2016, 11:47:59 AM
Thanks!  Our local paper reported otherwise. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 20, 2016, 12:05:38 PM
There are rumors in South Bend, that Notre Dame is considering leaving the "Football Bowl Division"and
going to the "Football Championship Division".  Since starting this season with 1 win and 2 losses,  the
Fighting Irish are now unranked in the AP Poll and out of any major bowl game consideration this season.
Notre Dame must still play Stanford and USC.

In a related story, there is a prayer vigil scheduled at Concordia University Chicago by President Gard.
He wants prayers to be offered for Coach Kelly and his players at Notre Dame for physical strength to
play defense.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 20, 2016, 02:24:26 PM
You have to realize Pastor K that the Hawkeye's fans see themselves as top of the football heap here in Iowa and went undefeated last year.  Thus to be beat by NDSU which is not even a D1 school is a shock for many fans
NDSU is a Division I school in all sports, including football--where it is in the "Football Championship Subdivision," as distinguished from the "Football Bowl Subdivision." It's about money and budgets.

Peace,
Michael
It sometimes happens that people misuse the "Division I" label when it comes to football, forgetting that schools in what used to be called I-AA (FCS) are actually part of that same division.  That's what I assume is at play here.  It's a distinction that makes sense in football, given the scale of programs and the size/talent of players, to make competition fairly competitive.  I've often been curious (but not enough to look it up) if any Divison I sport other than football has a subdivision.  Given that the renamed them BCS and FCS I'm guessing probably not.

Sterling Spatz
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on September 20, 2016, 02:38:11 PM
You have to realize Pastor K that the Hawkeye's fans see themselves as top of the football heap here in Iowa and went undefeated last year.  Thus to be beat by NDSU which is not even a D1 school is a shock for many fans
NDSU is a Division I school in all sports, including football--where it is in the "Football Championship Subdivision," as distinguished from the "Football Bowl Subdivision." It's about money and budgets.

Peace,
Michael
It sometimes happens that people misuse the "Division I" label when it comes to football, forgetting that schools in what used to be called I-AA (FCS) are actually part of that same division.  That's what I assume is at play here.  It's a distinction that makes sense in football, given the scale of programs and the size/talent of players, to make competition fairly competitive.  I've often been curious (but not enough to look it up) if any Divison I sport other than football has a subdivision.  Given that the renamed them BCS and FCS I'm guessing probably not.

Sterling Spatz
I believe you are right.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 20, 2016, 02:44:32 PM
I do enjoy when haughty fans of a I-A school get a surprise comeuppance from a I-AA team.

The good people of Fargo have had several reasons to celebrate the past few days.  #FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 20, 2016, 02:59:09 PM
You have to realize Pastor K that the Hawkeye's fans see themselves as top of the football heap here in Iowa and went undefeated last year.  Thus to be beat by NDSU which is not even a D1 school is a shock for many fans
NDSU is a Division I school in all sports, including football--where it is in the "Football Championship Subdivision," as distinguished from the "Football Bowl Subdivision." It's about money and budgets.

Peace,
Michael
It sometimes happens that people misuse the "Division I" label when it comes to football, forgetting that schools in what used to be called I-AA (FCS) are actually part of that same division.  That's what I assume is at play here.  It's a distinction that makes sense in football, given the scale of programs and the size/talent of players, to make competition fairly competitive.  I've often been curious (but not enough to look it up) if any Divison I sport other than football has a subdivision.  Given that the renamed them BCS and FCS I'm guessing probably not.

Sterling Spatz


FBS and FCS.  BCS was something different.  It's almost as confusing as keeping straight all the Lutheran church bodies.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on September 20, 2016, 03:21:06 PM
Thanks for the correction, James.  Yes, FBS teams were playing to be in the BCS.  I was never quite sure whether the BCS meant just the "major" bowls amongst whom the national championship game rotated, or all the bowls.  With the carved up allotment according to (super) conferences, which I thought of as the legacy of the old boy network.

As I was discussing with someone last week about Notre Dame (after hearing on ESPN Radio Mike & Mike the old canard that they were still in this year's championship hunt after their first game loss)--I appreciate that if you were a bowl organizing committee which wanted to maximize traveling fan attendance, the Irish were a desirable pick, regardless of win/loss record.  I just disapproved of that logic being extended to the "mythical" national championship beauty contest, be it the necessary major bowl invitation to create that match-up or the ranking polls.  YMMV
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Randy Bosch on September 20, 2016, 03:27:04 PM
I, along with many, many other alumni, take comfort in our unofficial team motto: "Wait 'Til Next Year!" (Go Cal!).  Beating #11 Texas last weekend was nice, but...  As long as the two arch-rivals are beaten (often a rare occurance for one let alone both...), it's a good season: just need to get past the Leland Stanford JUNIOR University and the University of Spoiled Children...
 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 20, 2016, 03:57:21 PM
Thanks for the correction, James.  Yes, FBS teams were playing to be in the BCS.  I was never quite sure whether the BCS meant just the "major" bowls amongst whom the national championship game rotated, or all the bowls.  With the carved up allotment according to (super) conferences, which I thought of as the legacy of the old boy network.

As I was discussing with someone last week about Notre Dame (after hearing on ESPN Radio Mike & Mike the old canard that they were still in this year's championship hunt after their first game loss)--I appreciate that if you were a bowl organizing committee which wanted to maximize traveling fan attendance, the Irish were a desirable pick, regardless of win/loss record.  I just disapproved of that logic being extended to the "mythical" national championship beauty contest, be it the necessary major bowl invitation to create that match-up or the ranking polls.  YMMV


BCS was the Bowl Championship Series.  It (somewhat like the current playoff) was founded an agreement among the power conferences, Notre Dame and four bowl games.  The primary goal was to ensure a championship game each year between the two top teams.  Of course, in some years, three teams had strong claims to play in that game.  The four-team playoff is an attempt to reduce the likelihood of excluding a worthy contender.  The BCS also spelled out how the four major bowls would select teams for the non-championship games.  The rules ensured a spot for one of the mid-major teams (e.g., Boise State) if they did well enough.  They also gave deference to the bowl games' traditional matchups (e.g., the link between the Rose Bowl, Big Ten, and Pac-10/12).


The current playoff isn't all that different.  Two of the six bowls on a rotating basis host the playoff semi-finals.  The other four majors host non-playoff games.  The championship game is not now hosted by a bowl.  Rather, cities/stadiums bid for the game.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Keith Falk on September 20, 2016, 05:09:36 PM
The Buckeyes beat OU.  I was there.  It was glorious.


Kim and Jeremy rejoiced as well.


I didn't even realize other football games were going on this past weekend.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 20, 2016, 05:32:25 PM
If one were to guess who would be playing in the National Championship game next January,
then it would be Alabama and Ohio State.   Those seem to be the two best teams in college
football this season.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on September 20, 2016, 09:32:10 PM
The Buckeyes beat OU.  I was there.  It was glorious.


Kim and Jeremy rejoiced as well.


I didn't even realize other football games were going on this past weekend.   ;D ;D ;D

We lived vicariously through you!  :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 21, 2016, 12:00:26 AM
BOOMER BUCKEYE BABY! It's a good start to the season!

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 24, 2016, 08:09:34 PM
The Notre Dame football team lost to Duke today at South Bend.  This 3 point loss brings humiliation to a
football program that thinks they are national championship material.  After 4 weeks into the season,
Notre Dame has 1 win and 3 losses.  Obviously, Duke is a "basketball school" and not known for any
football prowess.  Rumors are rampant that ND Coach Kelly is on the hot seat and his job is in great
jeopardy.  Yes, the Fighting Irish still must play Stanford and USC this season.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 25, 2016, 08:02:02 PM
Today, Coach Brian Kelly of Notre Dame made his Defensive Coordinator a scapegoat for the team's
1-3 start by firing him.  Then Kelly threw his football players under the bus, by saying that all positions
on the team would be re-evaluated to determine next week's starters.

There is no humility in Coach Kelly.  He could have blamed himself for some of the bad start to the
season.  Instead, he failed to look in the mirror and blamed everyone else.  As the Bible says:
Pride goes before the fall.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 25, 2016, 08:25:14 PM
What do you have against ND? Why not mentikn that Les Miles got the boot at LSU and that offensive coordinator Cam Cameron went down with him. We all know that Chap. Gard earned his Ph.D from Notre Dame and that he is partial to that school. Me? I hate William and Mary because they wouldn't even accept my application. (I was an average high school student.)

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on September 25, 2016, 08:34:06 PM
Hail to the Victors.

That is all.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 25, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
My dislike for Notre Dame concerns what their administration did to their greatest coach Knute Rockne.
He came to America from Norway as a Lutheran and was eventually hired at Notre Dame.  When
Rockne became a successful coach at Notre Dame, they pressured him to renounce Lutheranism and
become a Roman Catholic.  This was poor sportsmanship on the part of Notre Dame.   

Bottom Line:  My grandfather came to America from Norway in the early 1900's and nobody made
him convert from Lutheranism to Catholicism to keep his job as a baker.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Chuck on September 25, 2016, 10:58:31 PM
He came to America from Norway as a Lutheran and was eventually hired at Notre Dame.  When
Rockne became a successful coach at Notre Dame, they pressured him to renounce Lutheranism and
become a Roman Catholic.  This was poor sportsmanship on the part of Notre Dame. 
Not according to Rockne himself:
"I used to be impressed by the sight of my players receiving Holy Communion every morning, and finally I made it a point to go to Mass with them on the morning of the game. I realized that it appeared more or less incongruous when we arrived in town for a game, for the general public to see my boys rushing off to church as soon as they got off the train, while their coach rode to the hotel and took his ease. So for the sake of appearance, if nothing else, I made it a point to go to church with the boys on the morning of the game.


One night before a big game in the East, I was nervous and worried about the outcome of the game the next day and was unable to sleep. I tossed and rolled about the bed and finally decided that I’d get up and dress, then go down to the lobby and sit in a chair alone with my thoughts. It must have been two or three o’clock in the morning when I arrived in the deserted lobby, so I took a chair and tried to get that football game off my mind by engaging some bellboys in conversation.


Along about five or six o’clock in the morning, I started pacing the lobby of the hotel, when suddenly I ran into two of my own players hurrying out. I asked one of them where they were going at such an hour, although I had a good idea. Then I retired to a chair in the lobby where I couldn’t be seen, but where I could see everyone who went in or out of the door. Within the next few minutes, my players kept hurrying out of the door in pairs or groups, and finally, when they were about all gone, I got near the door so I could question the next player who came along.


In a minute or two, the last of the squad hurried out of the elevator and made for the door. I stopped them and asked them if they, too, were going to Mass, and they replied that they were. I decided to go along with them. Although they probably did not realize it, these youngsters were making a powerful impression on me with their piety and devotion, and when I saw all of them walking to the Communion rail to receive, and realized the several hours of sleep they had sacrificed in order to do this, I understood for the first time what a powerful ally their religion was to those boys in their work on the football field. Then it was that I really began to see the light; to know what was missing in my life, and later on I had the great pleasure of joining my boys at the Communion rail."
Crossing The Goal Line by Knute Rockne
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 25, 2016, 11:01:14 PM
Hail to the Victors.

That is all.


You are a wise man.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 25, 2016, 11:14:43 PM
Hail to the Victors.

That is all.


You are a wise man.

Yes, leaders and best and perpetually behind the Buckeyes.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on September 25, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
58-47-6
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on September 26, 2016, 12:56:44 AM
58-47-6


In Ohio, "perpetually" means "never has been."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on September 26, 2016, 01:18:00 AM
58-47-6


In Ohio, "perpetually" means "never has been."

In Ohio, "polysyllabic" means something sitting like a parrot on the ledge that runs next to a window.

They get stymied by words longer than four letters.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 26, 2016, 07:41:39 AM
All those wins, so few national titles. 1997, 1948, 1947. It may be 58-47-6, but maybe the geniuses at UM can tell us what the record might have been in 2000? I'm sure that would be interesting to learn. Ohio State owns 2-10-1. We know it was a rough stretch.

And when the Associated Press released their all-time ranking of college football teams, where was Michigan? Seventh? That's leading from the rear Michigan-style.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on September 26, 2016, 12:24:07 PM
Sorry to have touched a nerve, Jeremy.  I'm sure that you know words of more than one syllable and can use them properly, at least occasionally, despite your Ohio connections.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 26, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Yes. Ugh. My nerves. Ouch. Oof.  Oh. Aitch. Eye. Owe.  LOL   ;D

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: gan ainm on September 26, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
Yes. Ugh. My nerves. Ouch. Oof.  Oh. Aitch. Eye. Owe.  LOL   ;D

Jeremy

Too much coffee today?  Try a Lagunitas Sucks  http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/lagunitas-sucks/158433/  .   Go 'Eers!   Go Eagles!!    ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 26, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
If Michigan is on the ball, they'll snatch up the Mad Hatter Les Miles. This would give the Wolverines the opportunity to quietly rectify their hiring the wrong Harbaugh. How were they to know that there were two J. Harbaugh's? That can be super confusing. Michigan aimed for the J. Harbaugh that is a winner and they settled for the J. Harbaugh who can't make a commitment longer than five minutes. (Which, by the way, Bobby Petrino finds incredibly admirable.) So now Michigan, who wanted John but accidentally got Jim can get Les. Everything works out in God's time. What an opportunity for Michigan.

Jeremy  (just trying to help Michigan ascend Mt. Relevancy.)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 26, 2016, 04:25:38 PM
After 4 weeks, the Senior Writer, Tom Dienhart, has listed his Big Ten Power Rankings:

1. Ohio State  (3-0)
2. Wisconsin (4-0)
3. Michigan (4-0)
4. Nebraska (4-0)
5. Iowa (3-1)

Of course that is just one man's opinion, but next week Michigan plays Wisconsin at Madison
Mr. Dienhart works at the Big Ten TV Network.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on September 30, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Notre Dame Football Coach Brian Kelly was talking to reporters about his team's 1 win and 3 losses this season.

He said that our team can learn some lessons from defeat, in fact they are getting a great education.
Our players have learned that college football is not a contact sport, it is a collusion sport.  Dancing is
a contact sport.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on September 30, 2016, 02:24:10 PM
If Michigan is on the ball, they'll snatch up the Mad Hatter Les Miles. This would give the Wolverines the opportunity to quietly rectify their hiring the wrong Harbaugh. How were they to know that there were two J. Harbaugh's? That can be super confusing. Michigan aimed for the J. Harbaugh that is a winner and they settled for the J. Harbaugh who can't make a commitment longer than five minutes. (Which, by the way, Bobby Petrino finds incredibly admirable.) So now Michigan, who wanted John but accidentally got Jim can get Les. Everything works out in God's time. What an opportunity for Michigan.

Jeremy  (just trying to help Michigan ascend Mt. Relevancy.)

Fascinating.  I suppose I'd be worried about Jim's "five minutes," too.

In any case, what was that about Urban and Florida (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdi-1tIUhM)?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on September 30, 2016, 06:12:48 PM
I don't acknowledge that. I only remember Urban when he was at BGSU, when Terry Hoepner was at Miami, and Gary Pinkel was at Toledo. Those were the days when the MAC was highlighted on Thursday night football and the MAC was tremendous.

Jeremy ;-)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 01, 2016, 09:09:46 PM
Go (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5RQyV3OWQ) Blue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU7nahUw20).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 02, 2016, 06:34:43 PM
Go (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5RQyV3OWQ) Blue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU7nahUw20).


Big win.  If our FG kicking weren't a disaster, the score would have mirrored the control of the line on offense and defense.


Iowa and MSU are looking less formidable now than a couple weeks back.  The game in Columbus is looking more and more likely to be for the division crown.  The good guys need to get better between now and then.  But we should have a reasonable shot.  Above all, it does seem as if the natural order is returning to the Big Ten.


I'll be interested to see OSU in Madison two weeks hence (our bye week).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 02, 2016, 07:09:42 PM
Here are the Big Ten Football Standings For The Past Four Years. (This Includes Only Conference Games)

Ohio State....       31-1   .969
Mich St........       25-7   .781
Wisconsin....       23-9   .719
Nebraska.....       20-12 .625
Iowa...........       19-13 .594
Michigan......      18-14  .563

The rest of the conference teams are either at .500 or below .500
Obviously, this ranking does not include the 2016 season.     
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 02, 2016, 08:49:41 PM
Go (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5RQyV3OWQ) Blue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU7nahUw20).


Big win.  If our FG kicking weren't a disaster, the score would have mirrored the control of the line on offense and defense.


Iowa and MSU are looking less formidable now than a couple weeks back.  The game in Columbus is looking more and more likely to be for the division crown.  The good guys need to get better between now and then.  But we should have a reasonable shot.  Above all, it does seem as if the natural order is returning to the Big Ten.


I'll be interested to see OSU in Madison two weeks hence (our bye week).

The good guys should absolutely have a chance to improve. The 58-0 thrashing of Rutgers should have easily been twice that. Lol

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 02, 2016, 08:52:17 PM
Go (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5RQyV3OWQ) Blue (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU7nahUw20).


Big win.  If our FG kicking weren't a disaster, the score would have mirrored the control of the line on offense and defense.


Iowa and MSU are looking less formidable now than a couple weeks back.  The game in Columbus is looking more and more likely to be for the division crown.  The good guys need to get better between now and then.  But we should have a reasonable shot.  Above all, it does seem as if the natural order is returning to the Big Ten.


I'll be interested to see OSU in Madison two weeks hence (our bye week).

The good guys should absolutely have a chance to improve. The 58-0 thrashing of Rutgers should have easily been twice that. Lol

Jeremy


Jeremy --


You obviously are confused.  The good guys didn't play Rutgers yesterday.  The Buckeyes did.  The good guys play Rutgers NEXT week.


Cordially,


Jim
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 02, 2016, 09:01:24 PM
Here are the Big Ten Football Standings For The Past Four Years. (This Includes Only Conference Games)

Ohio State....       31-1   .969
Mich St........       25-7   .781
Wisconsin....       23-9   .719
Nebraska.....       20-12 .625
Iowa...........       19-13 .594
Michigan......      18-14  .563

The rest of the conference teams are either at .500 or below .500
Obviously, this ranking does not include the 2016 season.     


I'm not sure why you focus on just one slice of college-football history.  That's so narrow minded.  A broader-minded person would note that Michigan has more wins and has the best winning percentage of any FBS school. 


The linked video (https://youtu.be/478ithLPp3g?t=23m44s) provides useful information.  You just can't argue with James Earl Jones.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 02, 2016, 10:22:51 PM
The good guys should absolutely have a chance to improve. The 58-0 thrashing of Rutgers should have easily been twice that. Lol

Jeremy

Hold on.  You're bragging about beating Rutgers?

[[Wait.  Let me translate for you: "Yo, bro -- Rutgers?  SMDH.  LMAO.  #momlookatme #kickingpuppies #adulting "]]
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 02, 2016, 11:11:03 PM
Everyone loves a winner in college football.  Since 1936 the Associated Press declared the National
Champion, then in 1998 the BCS National Championship began.  As we combine these two standards
of measurement only five colleges have won 5 or more National Championships.

Alabama.......10   (Most recent 2015)
Notre Dame... 8   {Most recent 1988)
Oklahoma...... 7   (Most recent  2000)
Ohio State......5   (Most recent  2014)
Miami (FL)......5   (Most recent  2001)

Michigan.........2  (Most recent 1997)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 02, 2016, 11:42:51 PM
Everyone loves a winner in college football.  Since 1936 the Associated Press declared the National
Champion, then in 1998 the BCS National Championship began.  As we combine these two standards
of measurement only five colleges have won 5 or more National Championships.

Alabama.......10   (Most recent 2015)
Notre Dame... 8   {Most recent 1988)
Oklahoma...... 7   (Most recent  2000)
Ohio State......5   (Most recent  2014)
Miami (FL)......5   (Most recent  2001)

Michigan.........2  (Most recent 1997)


Once again, you are relying on a narrow slice of time.  Michigan has won 11 national championships.  (Of course, until the last couple years, we generally spoke of the MNC ("mythical national championship") because we relied on polls, computers, experts, etc. rather than a playoff.)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 08, 2016, 05:12:03 PM
As the college football season reaches the half-way point, we notice one of the coaches is on the hot seat.

Notre Dame has 2 wins and 4 losses.  Coach Brian Kelly could be looking for a new job after this season.
He crowed before the season that he had 2 quarterbacks in Kizer and Zaire who could help him win a
national championship this year.  Mr. Kelly no longer has to worry about Notre Dame competing for the
top spot in college football.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 15, 2016, 01:33:18 PM
Let's get it started: #2 Ohio State visits #11 Wisconsin. I hope it's a great game. Camp Randall is a good atmosphere. Bucks win by 14.

Any guesses from interested parties?

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 16, 2016, 12:46:24 AM
Let's get it started: #2 Ohio State visits #11 Wisconsin. I hope it's a great game. Camp Randall is a good atmosphere. Bucks win by 14.

Any guesses from interested parties?

Jeremy

Perfect.  Absolutely perfect.

Ohio wins, but only by the skin of their teeth and in OT.  This after UofM dominates the same opponent, despite missing 3 FGs.

Some stats...

For Michigan vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 21 to 8 (selah)

Rushing yards: 130 to 71
Passing yards: 219 to 88
Total yards: 349 to 159 (over a 2:1 margin)

For Ohio vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 23 to 22

Rushing yards: 185 to 236
Passing yards: 227 to 215
Total yards: 411 to 450 (do note, kind reader, that Wisconsin has more yards)

It's the best of all possible worlds.  Ohio barely wins, but they win.  Now, they will likely be undefeated when they play Michigan.  Good times.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 16, 2016, 05:44:45 AM
I was surprised at how Wisconsin ran the ball down Ohio State's throat. Preseason is done and not every game can be Rutgers.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 16, 2016, 06:59:29 AM
Dennis Byrd was killed in an automobile accident Saturday in Oklahoma. A vehicle driven by an 18yo hit him head on. Byrd was pronounced dead at the scene.

You may recall that Dennis Byrd was playing for the NY Jets when he broke his neck in a collision with a teammate while trying to sack the quarterback. Byrd was temporarily paralyzed, was able to walk again, but never fully recovered. Byrd credited his faith and family for helping him to endure his long rehabilitation. The NY Jets award an annual Byrd trophy to the player with the most inspirational story and community service.

Byrd was 50 years old, and is survived by his wife and several children. God grant them comfort and consolation.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Keith Falk on October 16, 2016, 09:00:09 AM
Let's get it started: #2 Ohio State visits #11 Wisconsin. I hope it's a great game. Camp Randall is a good atmosphere. Bucks win by 14.

Any guesses from interested parties?

Jeremy

Perfect.  Absolutely perfect.

Ohio wins, but only by the skin of their teeth and in OT.  This after UofM dominates the same opponent, despite missing 3 FGs.

Some stats...

For Michigan vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 21 to 8 (selah)

Rushing yards: 130 to 71
Passing yards: 219 to 88
Total yards: 349 to 159 (over a 2:1 margin)

For Ohio vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 23 to 22

Rushing yards: 185 to 236
Passing yards: 227 to 215
Total yards: 411 to 450 (do note, kind reader, that Wisconsin has more yards)

It's the best of all possible worlds.  Ohio barely wins, but they win.  Now, they will likely be undefeated when they play Michigan.  Good times.


14-7  Final score of Michigan v. Wisconsin (a game played in Ann Arbor)
30-23 Final score of Ohio State v. Wisconsin (a game played in Madison)


So... each team won by 7; and Ohio State won on the road with Wisconsin coming off a bye week.  Michigan also won by a touchdown, but were playing at home with Wisconsin coming off a game against MSU (which, granted, isn't looking it means much).


It's all on how you look at it.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 16, 2016, 10:45:15 AM
With out a doubt, the two best teams this season in the Big Ten are Ohio State and Michigan.
On November 26, they will decide who is the best as they play at Columbus, Ohio.  The home
field advantage will help the Buckeyes.  However, their biggest advantage comes from QB
J.T. Barrett. He is a dual threat with both his passing ability and his running prowess.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 16, 2016, 10:52:32 AM
We continue to mourn the passing of the Notre Dame football team from the national scene.
After losing yesterday to Stanford in South Bend, their season record now stands at 2 wins and
5 losses. The buzz on the street is that ND Coach Brian Kelly's contract would be too big to buy
out.Perhaps, the Obama Administration could declare South Bend, Indiana a disaster area and
send funds to pay off the contract of Kelly.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 16, 2016, 08:34:59 PM
Let's get it started: #2 Ohio State visits #11 Wisconsin. I hope it's a great game. Camp Randall is a good atmosphere. Bucks win by 14.

Any guesses from interested parties?

Jeremy

Perfect.  Absolutely perfect.

Ohio wins, but only by the skin of their teeth and in OT.  This after UofM dominates the same opponent, despite missing 3 FGs.

Some stats...

For Michigan vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 21 to 8 (selah)

Rushing yards: 130 to 71
Passing yards: 219 to 88
Total yards: 349 to 159 (over a 2:1 margin)

For Ohio vs. Wisconsin:

First downs: 23 to 22

Rushing yards: 185 to 236
Passing yards: 227 to 215
Total yards: 411 to 450 (do note, kind reader, that Wisconsin has more yards)

It's the best of all possible worlds.  Ohio barely wins, but they win.  Now, they will likely be undefeated when they play Michigan.  Good times.


14-7  Final score of Michigan v. Wisconsin (a game played in Ann Arbor)
30-23 Final score of Ohio State v. Wisconsin (a game played in Madison)


So... each team won by 7; and Ohio State won on the road with Wisconsin coming off a bye week.  Michigan also won by a touchdown, but were playing at home with Wisconsin coming off a game against MSU (which, granted, isn't looking it means much).


It's all on how you look at it.

Sure.  I suppose.  21-8 vs. 23-22.  349-159 vs. 411-450.  Win in regular time with 3 missed FGs vs. skin-of-teeth OT win.

But whatever helps you sleep at night. ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 16, 2016, 08:47:57 PM
Not speaking for Keith but I imagine that the Associated Press' #1 all time ranking for the Buckeyes helps him sleep pretty soundly. I think the Wolverines were top five, which is not too shabby. But it's not number one, which Michigan should be used to since 2000. Sweet dreams.

Jeremy

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 16, 2016, 11:04:04 PM
Major College Football Coaches with at least a .750 winning percentage at one college for at least 10 seasons:


Knute Rockne at Notre Dame with 105 wins and 12 losses (5 ties)    .881%  (1918-1930)

Barry Switzer at Oklahoma  157-29 (4)   .837%  (1973-1988)

Tom Osborne at Nebraska  255-49  (3)    .836%  (1973-1997)

Bud Wilkinson at Oklahoma  145-29 (4)   . 826%  (1947-1963)

Lloyd Carr at Michigan  122-40 (0)   .753%  (1995-2007)

This is the Mt. Rushmore of Five College Football Coaches.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on October 16, 2016, 11:09:43 PM
Let's not forget these stats:

2016 NFL Draft Picks:   Ohio State 12 (record-setting (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000658569/article/ohio-state-has-record-12-players-selected-in-drafts-first-4-rounds)) - Michigan 3   (Oh, and speaking of picks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDURHsbt0A)).

2016 Super Bowl 50 (http://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/super-bowl-50-ohio-state-sec-lead-with-most-players-on-rosters/) Players:   Ohio State 6 - Michigan 2
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on October 16, 2016, 11:12:59 PM
And OSU's coach can still apparently take a hit (https://twitter.com/Deadspin/status/787457909890355201).   ;D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on October 16, 2016, 11:43:44 PM
Dr. Benke,

What has happened to our Packers? :(
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 17, 2016, 09:43:41 AM
According to the television ratings, more people watched the Wisconsin/Ohio State football game
than the first game of the Dodgers/Cubs game.  Both were on the TV on Saturday, October 15, 2016
in the evening.  College football is still a big attraction in the American experience.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on October 17, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
According to the television ratings, more people watched the Wisconsin/Ohio State football game
than the first game of the Dodgers/Cubs game.  Both were on the TV on Saturday, October 15, 2016
in the evening.  College football is still a big attraction in the American experience.

My husband and son are Cubs fans, so I got a little dizzy at all the channel flipping between the two games.  They missed the grand slam and had to rely on on the replays.  It did bring a bright spot into the final nail-biting minutes of the OSU-Wisconsin game, though.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 17, 2016, 03:41:49 PM
It did bring a bright spot into the final nail-biting minutes of the OSU-Wisconsin game, though.

And I imagine that you needed that bright spot.  My, it was close.  Touch and go.  Really close.  Wow. 

[[And please note my kind use of generally monosyllabic words with a descending number of words per sentence (4-3-2-1) in the interest of communication with Ohio folks.]]
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dan Fienen on October 17, 2016, 04:16:13 PM
According to the television ratings, more people watched the Wisconsin/Ohio State football game
than the first game of the Dodgers/Cubs game.  Both were on the TV on Saturday, October 15, 2016
in the evening.  College football is still a big attraction in the American experience.

My husband and son are Cubs fans, so I got a little dizzy at all the channel flipping between the two games.  They missed the grand slam and had to rely on on the replays.  It did bring a bright spot into the final nail-biting minutes of the OSU-Wisconsin game, though.
Some televisions and television receiver systems feature Picture in Picture functionality whereby you can have two channels on the TV at one time, a main channel and an inset picture.  The channels can be swapped at will.  Might want to investigate such a system if that happens too often, save some dizziness and missed plays.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on October 17, 2016, 04:34:47 PM
According to the television ratings, more people watched the Wisconsin/Ohio State football game
than the first game of the Dodgers/Cubs game.  Both were on the TV on Saturday, October 15, 2016
in the evening.  College football is still a big attraction in the American experience.

My husband and son are Cubs fans, so I got a little dizzy at all the channel flipping between the two games.  They missed the grand slam and had to rely on on the replays.  It did bring a bright spot into the final nail-biting minutes of the OSU-Wisconsin game, though.
Some televisions and television receiver systems feature Picture in Picture functionality whereby you can have two channels on the TV at one time, a main channel and an inset picture.  The channels can be swapped at will.  Might want to investigate such a system if that happens too often, save some dizziness and missed plays.
Unfortunately in this age of the cable TV set-top box being an unavoidable necessary evil, this feature really doesn't work anymore.  Much to my annoyance.  TV's equipped with PIP can still do this, if one programming source is OTA (over-the-air, using an antenna to feed the internal tuner).  Alas, I think most of the programming under discussion here is not OTA.  It may still be possible with Sunday NFL football, or when the World Series starts (on the local Fox broadcast channels).  Last time I used PIP was the NCAA basketball tournament:  I used the TV's internal antenna tuner for the local CBS broadcast station, and the set-top box for one of the other games.  Maybe not worth the setup trouble, as I've found that programming the "favorite" button on the remote for the 4 channels worked almost as good, just rotating between them.

I guess it's too hard (translation: the components necessary are too expensive) for a TV to be able to do PIP on any 2 arbitrary inputs.  If there is one that does, I'd be interested in knowing about it.  As you can probably tell, this has been a pet peeve of mine for years now.  I roll my own DVR (on a PC running Linux, but the now abandoned Microsoft Windows Media Center was capable of something similar), and like to be able to control my own destiny.

Of course, the march of technology has come to my rescue recently.  Comcast now has a phone/tablet app (Android and Apple) which will display any channel of your subscribed cable package.  Most of the major providers are deploying something like this.  I think a couple of years ago they had in mind to charge extra for it.  Now it's free to try and keep cord-cutters from abandoning their product.  I've been able to watch something on the main TV (football, or a British police drama with the wife) while keeping up with the ALCS on the tablet, with the sound muted.  Of course you can't swap the tablet to the big screen (or can you?...don't know if it can be Chromecasted or something), but better than nothing.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on October 17, 2016, 09:46:23 PM
[[And please note my kind use of generally monosyllabic words with a descending number of words per sentence (4-3-2-1) in the interest of communication with Ohio folks.]]

Awww, that is so cute.  Did I mention the youth of the Ohio State team?  They have sharp enough eyes to even read that crazy small font.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on October 21, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
A few weeks ago, our senior pastor announced during the sermon that we are going to need to call a new associate pastor as of next Monday.  You see, our associate (the free prayer guy, BTW) is a native son of Minnesota and someone in our congregation with Eagles season tickets has graciously offered to take him to Lincoln Financial Field when the undefeated Vikings come to town this Sunday.  The senior pastor (a New Jersey native and therefore an outside observer of Philly culture) lamented that his associate has once again shown extremely poor judgement by declaring he will wear his purple Vikings jersey to the game.  (His father, an ELCA pastor back home, and brother have already been to game at the new Vikings stadium.)

In response, during the announcements before the offering, the associate mused that perhaps he will wear his clerical collar underneath the jersey--after all, he will be coming right from church, skipping the last service to make it in time for kickoff.  Several of us corrected him afterwards that the collar will make no difference.

#FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 22, 2016, 11:50:53 PM
Hee, hee.

 8)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 23, 2016, 12:14:58 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today? 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 23, 2016, 01:10:07 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today?

Why yes, Michigan's scrimmage was great fun.  As was their outing a few weeks earlier against some JV squad going by the name of "Nittany Lions" -- a team that, as you may have noticed, remains on the schedule of others and also remains unranked.

My oh my.  Did something else occur today?  Whatever might it have been?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 23, 2016, 01:19:14 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today?

Why yes, Michigan's scrimmage was great fun.  As was their outing a few weeks earlier against some JV squad going by the name of "Nittany Lions" -- a team that, as you may have noticed, remains on the schedule of others and also remains unranked.

My oh my.  Did something else occur today?  Whatever might it have been?


I do remember that game.  Our friends at OSU fan site OZone publish a weekly blog called "Michigan Monday," which covers Michigan's game from the prior Saturday.  Here's the Michigan Monday coverage of Michigan's win over the Nittany Lions, entitled Maybe Penn State Can Be A Basketball School. (http://m.theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Michigan-Monday-Maybe-Penn-State-Can-Be-a-Basketball-School)   The conclusion:  Michigan's 49-10 win over Penn State didn't "mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played."

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 23, 2016, 01:32:53 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today?

Why yes, Michigan's scrimmage was great fun.  As was their outing a few weeks earlier against some JV squad going by the name of "Nittany Lions" -- a team that, as you may have noticed, remains on the schedule of others and also remains unranked.

My oh my.  Did something else occur today?  Whatever might it have been?


I do remember that game.  Our friends at OSU fan site OZone publish a weekly blog called "Michigan Monday," which covers Michigan's game from the prior Saturday.  Here's the Michigan Monday coverage of Michigan's win over the Nittany Lions, entitled Maybe Penn State Can Be A Basketball School. (http://m.theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Michigan-Monday-Maybe-Penn-State-Can-Be-a-Basketball-School)   The conclusion:  Michigan's 49-10 win over Penn State didn't "mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played."

My oh my.  Well, there is always cricket for Ohio, since football appears to be too hard by half.  I'll bet they pitch a marvelous googly down there, though it may just be a grubber after all...
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 23, 2016, 01:38:08 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today?

Why yes, Michigan's scrimmage was great fun.  As was their outing a few weeks earlier against some JV squad going by the name of "Nittany Lions" -- a team that, as you may have noticed, remains on the schedule of others and also remains unranked.

My oh my.  Did something else occur today?  Whatever might it have been?


I do remember that game.  Our friends at OSU fan site OZone publish a weekly blog called "Michigan Monday," which covers Michigan's game from the prior Saturday.  Here's the Michigan Monday coverage of Michigan's win over the Nittany Lions, entitled Maybe Penn State Can Be A Basketball School. (http://m.theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Michigan-Monday-Maybe-Penn-State-Can-Be-a-Basketball-School)   The conclusion:  Michigan's 49-10 win over Penn State didn't "mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played."

Oh, and from that article: "Heck, Penn State doesn't even have a direction, unless you consider "down the drain" a direction."

*hee, hee*
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on October 23, 2016, 07:40:47 AM
It's a good thing that Michigan fans have football because they seem to be abysmal at sportsmanship. :(
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 23, 2016, 08:04:44 AM
It's a good thing that Michigan fans have football because they seem to be abysmal at sportsmanship. :(

It's all in good fun. We've been on the receiving end of the banter here and elsewhere for a decade or so. And believe me, if OSU somehow beats us next month, we'll hear about it. And that's fine too. Perhaps you're taking this all too seriously?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on October 23, 2016, 08:25:03 AM
It's a good thing that Michigan fans have football because they seem to be abysmal at sportsmanship. :(

It's all in good fun. We've been on the receiving end of the banter here and elsewhere for a decade or so. And believe me, if OSU somehow beats us next month, we'll hear about it. And that's fine too. Perhaps you're taking this all too seriously?

I am not hearing any "banter"; it is all one-sided slams.  But if you say so....
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 23, 2016, 09:20:09 AM
It's a good thing that Michigan fans have football because they seem to be abysmal at sportsmanship. :(

It's all in good fun. We've been on the receiving end of the banter here and elsewhere for a decade or so. And believe me, if OSU somehow beats us next month, we'll hear about it. And that's fine too. Perhaps you're taking this all too seriously?

I am not hearing any "banter"; it is all one-sided slams.  But if you say so....

The banter extends over months and years. Just look back through the pages of this thread.  The fans here of the two schools understand the nature of this conversation.  We all both dish it out and take it--brothers and sisters giving each other a little good-natures grief.  I understand how it might look mean to someone stepping in from the outside. Internet posts don't convey tone very well.  But it just isn't like that. Believe me, if OSU wins next month, Scott and I will hear about it from Buckeye Deaconess, Jeremy, Keith, and perhaps others.  It's all part of the fun.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 23, 2016, 10:17:54 AM
Hee, hee.

 8)


I enjoyed Michigan's scrimmage today.  After a nice dinner, I enjoyed the Cubs victory.  Did other Big Ten teams play today?

Why yes, Michigan's scrimmage was great fun.  As was their outing a few weeks earlier against some JV squad going by the name of "Nittany Lions" -- a team that, as you may have noticed, remains on the schedule of others and also remains unranked.

My oh my.  Did something else occur today?  Whatever might it have been?


I do remember that game.  Our friends at OSU fan site OZone publish a weekly blog called "Michigan Monday," which covers Michigan's game from the prior Saturday.  Here's the Michigan Monday coverage of Michigan's win over the Nittany Lions, entitled Maybe Penn State Can Be A Basketball School. (http://m.theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/News/Michigan-Monday-Maybe-Penn-State-Can-Be-a-Basketball-School)   The conclusion:  Michigan's 49-10 win over Penn State didn't "mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played."

From the article: "COLUMBUS — Well, what can you learn from something like this? Try analyzing Shaquille O'Neal posting up Mike from Accounting and see how much you can make of it."

"Mike from accounting"?  Maybe we should call Ohio "Barb from the mailroom"?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 23, 2016, 11:27:17 AM
As the city of Cleveland, Ohio prepares to host game one of the World Series on Tuesday,
there is much jubilation.

As the city of Columbus, Ohio prepares  to host Michigan in the final game of the Big Ten
season on Nov. 26, there is much melancholy.

For all of the dejected Buckeye footfall fans, i have two words for you: Ezekiel Elliott.
He is sorely missed this season.  In his senior year at Ohio St., he rushed for 1,821 yards
and scored 23 rushing TD's. Today, he is the top rookie in the NFL and plays for the
Dallas Cowboys.  This namesake of the Old Testament prophet is greatly missed.

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 23, 2016, 01:55:27 PM
Yes, yes, the Bucks got beat. They lost to a team they shouldn't have lost too. But the loss came early enough in the season that there is still a way to the national championship, which would be the Bucks' third this century. I'm happy with the two they have earned in the first 16 years, a third would be totally tremendous. But the Univ. of Chaos is on everyone's schedule and it can raise up and knock down any team.

Michigan sings of itself as the Leader of the West. Perhaps they could offer some leadership to the woebegone Buckeyes? How do we recover from losing to a I-AA school? Oh wait, that's a bad question. We lost to Penn State, not App. State. I withdraw the question.

Jeremy

Michigan has a
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 23, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
Yes, yes, the Bucks got beat. They lost to a team they shouldn't have lost too. But the loss came early enough in the season that there is still a way to the national championship, which would be the Bucks' third this century. I'm happy with the two they have earned in the first 16 years, a third would be totally tremendous. But the Univ. of Chaos is on everyone's schedule and it can raise up and knock down any team.

Michigan sings of itself as the Leader of the West. Perhaps they could offer some leadership to the woebegone Buckeyes? How do we recover from losing to a I-AA school? Oh wait, that's a bad question. We lost to Penn State, not App. State. I withdraw the question.

Jeremy

Michigan has a

"It doesn't mean much because what can you learn from a contest where only one participant is actually familiar with the game being played."

I bet 'ol Tony is eating some real crow right about now.  Hee, hee.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 23, 2016, 03:16:37 PM
Yes, yes, the Bucks got beat. They lost to a team they shouldn't have lost too. But the loss came early enough in the season that there is still a way to the national championship, which would be the Bucks' third this century. I'm happy with the two they have earned in the first 16 years, a third would be totally tremendous. But the Univ. of Chaos is on everyone's schedule and it can raise up and knock down any team.

Michigan sings of itself as the Leader of the West. Perhaps they could offer some leadership to the woebegone Buckeyes? How do we recover from losing to a I-AA school? Oh wait, that's a bad question. We lost to Penn State, not App. State. I withdraw the question.

Jeremy

Michigan has a


I actually don't think that this loss hurts OSU much.  If the Big Ten champion has no more than one loss, I strongly believe that that team will make the playoff.  The path is still clear for OSU to be in that position.  OSU just needs to win out.  The PSU loss could matter, if at all, only if OSU loses again (which would likely be to Michigan).  OSU now cannot make the playoff unless in wins the Big Ten.  Michigan could lose to OSU and still have a long, long shot argument, so long as the Wolverines head into Columbus undefeated.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 23, 2016, 04:15:34 PM
That is an advantage to the championship we have now. One loss, and the timing of it, doesn't necessarily end a season.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Keith Falk on October 24, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
Yeah... seems to me a loss to Virginia Tech at home was going to end us, too - and we remember how that season ended!  A loss at Penn St is a big deal, but not the end of the world.  If, at the beginning of the season, I had been told Ohio St would only have one loss, I would've been pleased.  Granted, I assumed the loss was going to be in Norman or in Madison, but still.


And I'm not bothered by what Scott or Jim are dishing out.  It's waaaaaaay tamer than what usually passes between tOSU and TTUN fans.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 24, 2016, 01:38:03 PM
Yeah... seems to me a loss to Virginia Tech at home was going to end us, too - and we remember how that season ended!  A loss at Penn St is a big deal, but not the end of the world.  If, at the beginning of the season, I had been told Ohio St would only have one loss, I would've been pleased.  Granted, I assumed the loss was going to be in Norman or in Madison, but still.


And I'm not bothered by what Scott or Jim are dishing out.  It's waaaaaaay tamer than what usually passes between tOSU and TTUN fans.


Realistically, making the playoff still comes down to winning THE GAME and then winning the conference championship game (which imo likely will be a rematch for either OSU or Michigan with the Badgers). 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 24, 2016, 01:43:53 PM
Looks like Tony of "Mike from accounting" fame is back at it, this time grading Ohio's performance (http://theozone.net/Ohio-State/Football/2016/Featured-Topics/Penn-State/Report-Card-Buckeyes-vs-Penn-State).

But what caught my eye was this gem: "I did what I was supposed to do, but the rest of my team let me down. Fortunately, our philosophy professor was a dirty hippy, so we were allowed to grade ourselves and I got an A."

I would be surprised that a real university would allow a student to grade his own work, but given the "university" in question, I really shouldn't be.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 24, 2016, 09:54:02 PM
I know it, you know it and the American people know it:  When Michigan visits Ohio State at the end
of November, the dust will be settled for the inside track to the Big Ten Championship and a berth
in the National Championship.  In the meantime, enjoy the rest of the college football season.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 29, 2016, 02:17:34 PM
In the beginning when God created the world, he had everything set up perfectly:
On Friday, high school football, on Saturday, college football, and on Sunday, pro football.

Then TV executives got greedy for more money and put NFL games on Monday nights,
and Thursday nights.  College football games got placed on some week nights.

In the meantime Major League Baseball got greedy for more money and invented the
two rounds of playoffs to get to the World Series. God has originally decided that the
team from the American and National League with the best record went to the World
Series.

Bottom Line:  Mankind through greed for more money has lengthened the schedules
of pro sports with numerous playoffs.  MLB now ends in late October, NFL now ends
in February, and NBA ends in June.  The pro seasons overlap and sports fans are
treated like ATM's.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 30, 2016, 01:08:17 AM
Hail (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bv5RQyV3OWQ) to the Victors (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTU7nahUw20).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on October 30, 2016, 07:23:46 AM
I like the trophy awarded for the Michigan v. Michigan State game. I think all the trophy games in the Big Ten are endearing and one of the reasons college athletics continues to be appealing.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on October 30, 2016, 09:51:53 AM
The history of Michigan and Ohio State comes down to two football coaching legends:

Ohio State Football Coach Woody Hayes  (1951-1978)
13 Big Ten Titles
5 National Titles

Michigan Football Coach Bo Schembechler (1969-1989)
13 Big Ten Titles
Zero National Titles
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: scott9 on October 30, 2016, 04:43:56 PM
Woody sure was a powerhouse.  He packed quite the punch (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEVJyf0ft3I).

And this guy (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/228/1686/400/charlie2.jpg) sure has style.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on October 31, 2016, 01:50:04 PM
A few weeks ago, our senior pastor announced during the sermon that we are going to need to call a new associate pastor as of next Monday.  You see, our associate (the free prayer guy, BTW) is a native son of Minnesota and someone in our congregation with Eagles season tickets has graciously offered to take him to Lincoln Financial Field when the undefeated Vikings come to town this Sunday.  The senior pastor (a New Jersey native and therefore an outside observer of Philly culture) lamented that his associate has once again shown extremely poor judgement by declaring he will wear his purple Vikings jersey to the game.  (His father, an ELCA pastor back home, and brother have already been to game at the new Vikings stadium.)

In response, during the announcements before the offering, the associate mused that perhaps he will wear his clerical collar underneath the jersey--after all, he will be coming right from church, skipping the last service to make it in time for kickoff.  Several of us corrected him afterwards that the collar will make no difference.

I had not received any proof of life before yesterday, but I am happy to report that despite all expectations to the contrary, our associate pastor was able to preach a Reformation Sunday sermon.  Of course he started off by recounting his experience traveling to Lincoln Financial Field on the regional rail...not donning his Viking jersey until he was sure he did not have to ask for guidance from the locals.  Once on the correct train, an Eagles express to the stadium complex loaded with green-clad people, he was seated next to one fan who promptly started sharing how visiting fans were treated back in the day in the 700 level of Veteran's Stadium.  The man then proceeded to give the pastor the "hook" for his sermon:  "Finish what you start" (tied into the appointed Gospel).  At first the Minnesota native feared he was referring to continuing the tradition of rough treatment of the visitor's fans at Linc.  But it turned out the stranger was talking about his children:  for example, if you decide to play an instrument at the beginning of the school year, you stick with it until year's end.  And also a complement for the pastor maintaining his Viking loyalty even when deep inside enemy territory.   Coincidentally this is why Philadelphians have such contempt for our neighbors born and raise here who have chosen to follow the (Dallas Cowboys) Star...who we lovingly refer to as cockroaches.

Yes, you still can find sermon inspiration when heading into the lion's den.  I do attribute his safe return to the fact that his team lost.  Prayers are indeed answered.   8)

In other news, I was disappointed to find out early this morning that the Eagles rookie head coach is not smarter than Jason Garrett.  Our associate pastor knew it was preaching to the choir by taking a couple of gratuitous shots at the Cowboys during his sermon.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on October 31, 2016, 02:48:10 PM
The history of Michigan and Ohio State comes down to two football coaching legends:

Ohio State Football Coach Woody Hayes  (1951-1978)
13 Big Ten Titles
5 National Titles

Michigan Football Coach Bo Schembechler (1969-1989)
13 Big Ten Titles
Zero National Titles


Woody and Bo were great coaches and close friends.  Of course, Bo won the 10-year war over Woody.  So if the real measure of OSU-Michigan is Woody vs. Bo, Michigan wins.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 06, 2016, 11:43:11 AM
As Americans stagger to the Voting Booth on Tuesday, they can be reassured that Notre Dame
college football is in a bigger mess than our nation.

The Feeble Irish have 3 wins and 6 losses this season.  Coach Brian Kelly has been promised
another year by his Athletic Director.   In the meantime, Notre Dame fans will probably not
be attending a Bowl Game this season.  They have 3 games left to play against Army,
Virginia Tech, and USC.   Coach Kelly eats crow at every post game meal.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: mj4 on November 06, 2016, 12:00:32 PM
The Feeble Irish have 3 wins and 6 losses this season.  Coach Brian Kelly has been promised
another year by his Athletic Director.   In the meantime, Notre Dame fans will probably not
be attending a Bowl Game this season.  They have 3 games left to play against Army,
Virginia Tech, and USC.   Coach Kelly eats crow at every post game meal.

Should beat Army. VT and SC? Probably not.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 06, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
Today, the unranked Notre Dame football team accepted an invitation
to play in the Toilet Bowl in Flushing, New York. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Terry W Culler on November 07, 2016, 10:17:03 AM
I have jokingly remarked that the Ravens have had a good season if they just beat Pittsburgh twice.  Number 1 under the belt!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 13, 2016, 12:11:32 AM
As an Iowan by birth and a Hawkeye by the Grace of God, I want to congratulate the Iowa Hawkeyes
Football team.  Tonight, they defeated the previously unbeaten and #2 ranked Michigan Wolverines
by a score of 14-13 in Kinnick Stadium.   This will be good for Coach Jim Harbaugh as he eats crow for
breakfast in the morning.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on November 13, 2016, 08:58:46 AM
Iowa's last second win over Michigan may be the greatest upset in the entire history of college football. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 13, 2016, 09:47:45 AM
The Michigan Wolverines had averaged 48 points  per game on offense this  year 
They came to Kinnick Stadium last night and scored 13 points in their loss.
The Iowa Hawkeye defense was not intimidated by the #2 Wolverines.  Great win
for the fans in Iowa and perhaps it will propel them to a good Bowl Game this season.
14 is my new lucky number.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 20, 2016, 11:01:50 AM
The Trail of Tears continues in South Bend, Indiana as the Notre Dame Football team's record now
stands at 4 wins and 7 losses.  Next Saturday, they travel to play at the University of Southern California
which is ranked in the top 20 of the AP Poll.  Knute Rockne is probably singing the blues in heaven.
Notre Dame in 2016 has tarnished the heritage of this legendary Norwegian Lutheran coach.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on November 20, 2016, 03:05:17 PM
Next Saturday, they travel to play at the University of Southern California which is ranked in the top 20 of the AP Poll.  Knute Rockne is probably singing the blues in heaven.  Notre Dame in 2016 has tarnished the heritage of this legendary Norwegian Lutheran coach.


Coach Rockne, whose Fighting Irish football legacy was tarnished long ago by a few other coaches, was received into the Catholic Church in 1925.  As was not unusual in those days, he was received by baptism, as his baptism in a Lutheran Church was deemed not acceptable.

Meanwhile, next Saturday Notre Dame will again be my second-favorite NCAA football team -- which is (by definition) the team playing the USC Brain Surgeons.  Except last night, when my first-favorite NCAA team was getting beat by them. 

By the way, do they actually play football at football games anymore?  All I heard last night on ESPN radio was commercial breaks.

Pax, Steven+
Son of Sons of Westwood
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: mj4 on November 20, 2016, 03:43:50 PM
Iowa's last second win over Michigan may be the greatest upset in the entire history of college football.

No, Norman. There were bigger upsets. Take this one, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLE_bT_Zn7U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLE_bT_Zn7U).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 20, 2016, 03:47:22 PM
Coach Knute Rockne died at the age of 43 in a plane crash in Kansas.
He was a Norwegian Lutheran for 37 years of his life.  This is how he
will be remembered by the Norwegian Lutheran community.  The so called
"conversion" of Knute in 1925 will be debated until the parousia.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 27, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
The latest College Football news:

Wisconsin and Penn St will meet for the Big Ten Championship Game.
(There will no appearance for Ohio St. or Michigan in this title game.)

Notre Dame finished the season with 4 wins and 8 losses.  This means
that Brian Kelly could be out as head coach.  His latest scandal is the
the NCAA is vacating all the Notre Dame wins during the 2012 and 2013
due to academic fraud among some of the players.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 28, 2016, 11:36:22 PM
Green Bay wins!  Green Bay wins!  Green Bay wins!  It's been a LONG times since I could say that!!!!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: LCMS87 on November 28, 2016, 11:49:53 PM
Green Bay wins!  Green Bay wins!  Green Bay wins!  It's been a LONG times since I could say that!!!!

Yea, verily, and amen.

I sat with one of the owners during the game--bought him dinner actually--and he was very pleased.  They actually looked a lot like the Green Bay Packers again.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 30, 2016, 08:08:20 PM
Notre Dame's college football team finished the season with 4 wins and 8 losses.
They would like to be considered for the NCAA's four team playoff.  The Fainting Irish
have petitioned the powers that be: Do not penalize for not  being in a football  power
conference.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 30, 2016, 08:52:57 PM
Notre Dame's college football team finished the season with 4 wins and 8 losses.
They would like to be considered for the NCAA's four team playoff.  The Fainting Irish
have petitioned the powers that be: Do not penalize for not  being in a football  power
conference.

Rev. Likeness,

Why this constant poking at Notre Dame?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on December 04, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
Religion and football, a recipe for hypocrisy.   http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/03/sports/ncaafootball/baylor-liberty-university-sexual-assaults.html?hpw&rref=sports&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=well-region&region=bottom-well&WT.nav=bottom-well&_r=0
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 04, 2016, 03:44:55 PM
Our long wait is over and the major football bowl games have been announced for the Big Ten:

1. National Playoffs (lst  Round) #2 Ohio St  vs #3  Clemson on Dec. 31

2. Orange Bowl:#6 Michigan vs#10 Florida St. on Dec. 30

3. Rose Bowl:#5 Penn St. vs#9 USC on Jan. 2

4. Cotton Bowl:#8 Wisconsin vs #12Western Michigan on Jan. 2

5. Outback Bowl:#21 Iowa vs  #20 Florida on Jan. 2

These ranking are from the AP Poll released on Dec. 4
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on December 11, 2016, 08:45:13 PM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on December 15, 2016, 02:08:37 PM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!

Packers will need to add another triple to that triple, beginning with Da Bears this Sunday.  Packer backers out here are not despised as in, say, Minnesota or Illinois, because we're not in the same division (or conference, if you allow the concept that the Jets are an NFL franchise).  Ergo, this Sunday - GO GIANTS, Beat Lions!!

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on December 18, 2016, 11:50:33 PM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!

How about now! What an ending!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on December 19, 2016, 11:05:27 AM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!

How about now! What an ending!

How about those Vikings? 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on December 19, 2016, 11:17:04 AM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!

How about now! What an ending!

How about those Vikings? 

Dave Benke

Let's see...I compliment "your" team. And you respond...with a cheap shot?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on December 19, 2016, 12:48:37 PM
Packers win three in a row!  Wow!!!

How about now! What an ending!

How about those Vikings? 

Dave Benke

Let's see...I compliment "your" team. And you respond...with a cheap shot?

a) That qualifies as a cheap shot in sports-talk?  Please join us for a Rangers/Islanders game or a Mets/Yankees game out here on the far side of the Hudson.  Or a Yankees/Boston game.

Yesterday at a wake service, I asked if family members wanted to say something about their departed loved one.  A grandson came to the front, gave a very fine speech about the love given and received from his grandma including her passing on the faith, and added, speaking to her personally, "Grandma, I loved sitting with you to watch the Yankees play on TV, and seeing your reaction as you know I always said, "The Yankees suck!"   Applause followed.  It was a room full of Mets fans, with grandma the lone holdout.  To the end. 

b) Next Saturday's game will then be made more interesting, as the Interstate Rivals take the field on Christmas Eve day at Lambeau Field

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on December 31, 2016, 09:39:54 AM
Here's hoping that the college playoff games for tonight are of the quality that we have seen in many of the games to date.  Last night's FSU/Michigan being an example.  There have been many others.
Unfortunately I feel that the Alabama/Washington game will be a blow-out.  O$U and Clemson may be tight.  And GO BADGERS!!!

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 01, 2017, 12:00:28 AM
The College Football National Championship Game will feature Alabama and Clemson.
Ohio State was routed by Clemson 31-0 and demonstrated that the Big Ten Conference
was over-rated this season.  So far the Big Ten has a record of 2 wins and 5 losses during
this Bowl season.   Wisconsin, Penn St, and Iowa will play on January 2.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 01, 2017, 11:54:19 PM
Packers are NFC North champions!  Didn't think it possible, I must admit.  Now what?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on January 02, 2017, 10:27:47 AM
We hope for detroit to beat seattle.  the packers to beat the giants.  then the cowboys beat the lions and the packers to beat the falcons.  then for the NFC championship a packer win on a last second touchdown a la 50 years ago.

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 02, 2017, 12:09:58 PM
We hope for detroit to beat seattle.  the packers to beat the giants.  then the cowboys beat the lions and the packers to beat the falcons.  then for the NFC championship a packer win on a last second touchdown a la 50 years ago.

Tom Myhre

Thank you, Obi Wan.  This the path is that take we will.  And then go we to the Super Bowl the beating to place on the Steelers.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on January 04, 2017, 10:50:15 AM
If we really wanted deja vu we should root for the Chiefs.  A replaying of super bowl 1 with - of course - a packer win.

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 04, 2017, 11:13:49 AM
If we really wanted deja vu we should root for the Chiefs.  A replaying of super bowl 1 with - of course - a packer win.

Tom Myhre

Well, 2/3 of the AFC field have lost to the Pack in past Super Bowls, right?  KC, Oakland, NE, Pittsburgh...
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on January 09, 2017, 10:48:05 AM
well the divisional semi-final round is set.  Houston/New England   Kansas City/Pittsburgh   
 Seattle/ Atlanta   and Green Bay/Dallas    predictions?
1 for 2 in NFC Wild Card.

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 09, 2017, 10:58:33 AM
Tough morning in NYC for the Jints fans.  Headline - "Shipwrecked" because Odell Beckham and Giants receivers played a lousy game after having partied in Miami on a yacht last Monday. If Aaron Rodgers could pull off one more last second heave to the end zone to win the Super Bowl it would be called The Rosary Bowl, because he is the world's best at Hail Mary's.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Terry W Culler on January 09, 2017, 12:47:57 PM
well the divisional semi-final round is set.  Houston/New England   Kansas City/Pittsburgh   
 Seattle/ Atlanta   and Green Bay/Dallas    predictions?
1 for 2 in NFC Wild Card.

Tom Myhre


It's not safe to bet against Aaron Rodgers--ever
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 10, 2017, 07:47:21 PM
The original "Hail Mary" was thrown by QB Doug Flutie of Boston College on Nov. 23, 1987.
With 6 seconds left in the game, Flutie threw a pass 63 yards for a touchdown into the
end zone to beat Miami 47 to 45. Flutie threw the miracle pass against a 30 MPH wind.

Boston College is a Roman Catholic school and it is fitting that their quarterback would
throw the most famous "Hail Mary" pass in college football.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on January 10, 2017, 08:27:27 PM
The original "Hail Mary" was thrown by QB Doug Flutie of Boston College on Nov. 23, 1987.
With 6 seconds left in the game, Flutie threw a pass 63 yards for a touchdown into the
end zone to beat Miami 47 to 45. Flutie threw the miracle pass against a 30 MPH wind.

Boston College is a Roman Catholic school and it is fitting that their quarterback would
throw the most famous "Hail Mary" pass in college football.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

Quote
A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success. In the Hail Mary pass all receivers run straight toward the endzone and the quarterback will make a long pass that is often "up for grabs". The term became widespread after a December 28, 1975 NFL playoff game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings, when Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach (a Roman Catholic) said about his game-winning touchdown pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, "I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary." Previous to this play, a last-second desperation pass had been called several names, most notably the "Alley-Oop."
The expression goes back at least to the 1930s, being used publicly in that decade by two former members of Notre Dame's Four Horsemen, Elmer Layden and Jim Crowley. Originally meaning any sort of desperation play, a "Hail Mary" gradually came to denote a long, low-probability pass attempted at the end of a half when a team is too far from the end zone to execute a more conventional play, implying that it would take divine intervention for the play to succeed. For more than forty years, use of the term was largely confined to Notre Dame and other Catholic universities.



The throw by Doug Flutie is probably the most famous of recent years, particularly for college football. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 10, 2017, 10:23:31 PM
The late, great Woody Hayes coached the Ohio State Buckeyes to college football fame.
His emphasis was on the running game of his backfield with "3 yards and a cloud of dust".
He did not like the passing game from a quarterback.  Woody said there are 3 things that
can happen when you throw a pass and 2 ot them are bad.

1.Failure of the receiver to catch the ball and hang on to it.
2. The opponent can intercept the pass and kill momentum.
3. The receiver catches the ball.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on January 11, 2017, 01:48:11 AM
The original "Hail Mary" was thrown by QB Doug Flutie of Boston College on Nov. 23, 1987. With 6 seconds left in the game, Flutie threw a pass 63 yards for a touchdown into the end zone to beat Miami 47 to 45. Flutie threw the miracle pass against a 30 MPH wind.

Boston College is a Roman Catholic school and it is fitting that their quarterback would throw the most famous "Hail Mary" pass in college football.

You are so young...

Pax, Steven+
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 11, 2017, 07:15:12 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

Quote
A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success. In the Hail Mary pass all receivers run straight toward the endzone and the quarterback will make a long pass that is often "up for grabs". The term became widespread after a December 28, 1975 NFL playoff game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings, when Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach (a Roman Catholic) said about his game-winning touchdown pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, "I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary."

My buddies and I were at that game! At old, open-air Met stadium , dressed in snowmobile suits. Drew Pearson caught the pass on our side of the field just down from us. A perfect view. It continued  decades of disappointment for Vikings fans, subsequent to Super Bowls IV, VIII, and IX.  :(

That was the same game with the amazing bottle throw. The ref must have been standing at about the twenty yard line. Suddenly, out of the strands in the end zone came an empty booze bottle, arcing through the air, and made a direct hit on top of the head of the ref. Down he went in a heap. You could see commotion in the stands from fans grabbing the culprit. Thank goodness the ref was okay.

A memorable game.  And that puts me in the basket of deplorables, right Meryl?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on January 11, 2017, 09:50:58 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail_Mary_pass

Quote
A Hail Mary pass is a very long forward pass in American football, made in desperation with only a small chance of success. In the Hail Mary pass all receivers run straight toward the endzone and the quarterback will make a long pass that is often "up for grabs". The term became widespread after a December 28, 1975 NFL playoff game between the Dallas Cowboys and the Minnesota Vikings, when Cowboys quarterback Roger Staubach (a Roman Catholic) said about his game-winning touchdown pass to wide receiver Drew Pearson, "I closed my eyes and said a Hail Mary."

My buddies and I were at that game! At old, open-air Met stadium , dressed in snowmobile suits. Drew Pearson caught the pass on our side of the field just down from us. A perfect view. It continued  decades of disappointment for Vikings fans, subsequent to Super Bowls IV, VIII, and IX.  :(
That's awesome you got to see that.  :)   I like all the NFC north teams, but the vikings have been my fav since the 1994 with Warren Moon.  So I share your disappointment

That was the same game with the amazing bottle throw. The ref must have been standing at about the twenty yard line. Suddenly, out of the strands in the end zone came an empty booze bottle, arcing through the air, and made a direct hit on top of the head of the ref. Down he went in a heap. You could see commotion in the stands from fans grabbing the culprit. Thank goodness the ref was okay.
Well that is just terrible. 
Here's something a little more lighthearted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV6EP9bBbac

A memorable game.  And that puts me in the basket of deplorables, right Meryl?

No.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 11, 2017, 10:51:17 AM
I have joined the Cowboy Nation on a temporary basis. Defense needs to rush Rodgers, something the New York Football Giants did not do.  If the rush is successful Green Bay is unlikely to prevail. And that would be a good thing.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on January 11, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
Never been a cowboy fan.  Maybe its the hubris of the citizens.  But any team/owner that feels that they have to have an open air stadium "so God can watch his favorite team" deserves the scorn.

Tom Myhre
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Terry W Culler on January 11, 2017, 12:07:40 PM
I have joined the Cowboy Nation on a temporary basis. Defense needs to rush Rodgers, something the New York Football Giants did not do.  If the rush is successful Green Bay is unlikely to prevail. And that would be a good thing.

Not sure what game you watched on Sunday.  That first touchdown pass saw Rodgers having to do some of the fanciest footwork since Fred Astaire
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 11, 2017, 12:15:23 PM
Never been a cowboy fan.  Maybe its the hubris of the citizens.  But any team/owner that feels that they have to have an open air stadium "so God can watch his favorite team" deserves the scorn.

Or, do it for your kids.   ;)

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2017/01/11/watching-dallas-cowboys-soothes-newborn-baby-girl.html
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 11, 2017, 08:36:31 PM
I have joined the Cowboy Nation on a temporary basis. Defense needs to rush Rodgers, something the New York Football Giants did not do.  If the rush is successful Green Bay is unlikely to prevail. And that would be a good thing.

Living in the land of Giants fans and wearing my Packer Green and Gold jacket all week, I have found
a) they understood that they lost the game as soon as the Hail Mary was completed
b) they are united with me in a desire to beat the 'Boys.

This is a rare alignment of the stars; hopefully the Giants mojo against the Cowboys will carry over to the Packer Sunday afternoon.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: David Garner on January 15, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
These Falcons are good, y'all   8)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 15, 2017, 02:01:21 PM
No, Pack! No!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: ptom on January 15, 2017, 08:01:02 PM
Did I call it?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 15, 2017, 08:02:46 PM
Wow! Turned it on in the 3rd quarter. What a game!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 15, 2017, 08:07:58 PM
Epiphany colors = Green Bay colors. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: gan ainm on January 15, 2017, 08:20:36 PM
Great game!  Even greater outcome! 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 15, 2017, 09:21:00 PM
Epiphany colors = Green Bay colors.

Absolutely!  I mentioned that this morning, but then I was also wearing the Packer jacket afetrr the service to drive home the point.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 15, 2017, 11:59:05 PM
Helmuts off to three former Iowa Hawkeye football players who played key roles for the Packers:

1. Bryan Buluga, Offensive Tackle, who gives Aaron Rodgers the time to pass

2. Micah Hyde, Defensive Back who had a crucial interception in the lst half today.

3. Mike Daniels Defensive End who tries to give opposing QB all kinds of trouble.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on January 16, 2017, 10:01:24 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/n1ifl
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 16, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
http://imgur.com/gallery/n1ifl

 8)

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 16, 2017, 12:50:40 PM
Great A-Rod game highlights

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/NFC_Divisional_Aaron_Rodgers_highlights/703c8b12-8b3b-4b15-b804-a75a6195ec19
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 16, 2017, 04:22:09 PM
Great A-Rod game highlights

http://www.packers.com/media-center/videos/NFC_Divisional_Aaron_Rodgers_highlights/703c8b12-8b3b-4b15-b804-a75a6195ec19

Fits under the category "Things We Don't Mind Watching Over and Over."

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 22, 2017, 04:59:52 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 22, 2017, 05:13:40 PM
Being blown out is no fun.  But it is so much less stressful than losing a nail-biter.  Clearly, Atlanta is the superior team.  Too many injuries, too many mistakes.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 22, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
Being blown out is no fun.  But it is so much less stressful than losing a nail-biter.  Clearly, Atlanta is the superior team.  Too many injuries, too many mistakes.

Agree on all counts.  Bad mistakes early, and about half the team on injured reserve.  I think Atlanta can go all the way.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: David Garner on January 22, 2017, 10:47:48 PM
Being blown out is no fun.  But it is so much less stressful than losing a nail-biter.  Clearly, Atlanta is the superior team.  Too many injuries, too many mistakes.

Agree on all counts.  Bad mistakes early, and about half the team on injured reserve.  I think Atlanta can go all the way.

Dave Benke

I told y'all…..

These Falcons are good, y'all   8)

I don't say that as a brag.  The Packers beat the stuffing out of us 6 years ago in our own house.  I know how great Rodgers is.  I say it because I am convinced this is the best team this franchise has ever fielded, and we got hot at the right time.

I think we're going to win it all this season.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on January 23, 2017, 12:03:59 AM
Being blown out is no fun.  But it is so much less stressful than losing a nail-biter.  Clearly, Atlanta is the superior team.  Too many injuries, too many mistakes.

Agree on all counts.  Bad mistakes early, and about half the team on injured reserve.  I think Atlanta can go all the way.

Dave Benke

I told y'all…..

These Falcons are good, y'all   8)

I don't say that as a brag.  The Packers beat the stuffing out of us 6 years ago in our own house.  I know how great Rodgers is.  I say it because I am convinced this is the best team this franchise has ever fielded, and we got hot at the right time.

I think we're going to win it all this season.

Here's hoping.  :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 23, 2017, 04:55:29 PM
Today, our nation begins to prepare for Super Bowl Sunday on February 5 in Houston, Texas.
The New England Patriots will meet the Atlanta Falcons for the NFL Championship game.

Patriot Quarterback Tom Brady will try to get his 5th Super Bowl ring .  QB Matt Ryan will
attempt to win his first Super Bowl title ever.  I am inclined to cheer for the underdog
Falcons and hope the 31 year old Ryan can spark them to victory.    There will be no team from
the Mid West  or the West Coast in the Super Bowl.   So who are you cheering for?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 23, 2017, 06:14:18 PM
I am hoping for an Atlanta win, for several reasons:

1) I am no fan of the Patriots.
2) I would like to see the NFC team win.
3) I prefer to have the team that beat my team (the Packers, and they ARE my team as an owner of 126 shares of Packer stock!) be the ones to win it all.
4) I would like to see the incomparable Bart Starr remain as the only quarterback with 5 NFL titles.

Reason #4 most of all.  He was -- and still is -- one of my heroes.  A good Christian man.  I still remember how it made the headlines when he used foul language ("inconsequential, my ass"), it was so out of character for him. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 23, 2017, 07:27:14 PM
I am hoping for an Atlanta win, for several reasons:

1) I am no fan of the Patriots.
2) I would like to see the NFC team win.
3) I prefer to have the team that beat my team (the Packers, and they ARE my team as an owner of 126 shares of Packer stock!) be the ones to win it all.
4) I would like to see the incomparable Bart Starr remain as the only quarterback with 5 NFL titles.

Reason #4 most of all.  He was -- and still is -- one of my heroes.  A good Christian man.  I still remember how it made the headlines when he used foul language ("inconsequential, my ass"), it was so out of character for him.


Yes to all four.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Keith Falk on January 23, 2017, 08:50:27 PM
Otto Graham won 7 championships in 10 years between the AAFC and NFL.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 23, 2017, 09:50:00 PM
Otto Graham won 7 championships in 10 years between the AAFC and NFL.

But not 5 NFL titles.  Only Bart Starr.  In 7 years.  7 golden, transcendent years.  Years so glorious and great that they named the championship trophy after his coach.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: David Garner on January 24, 2017, 12:51:49 PM
We certainly appreciate all the support we can get. 

I still have photos of my wife, my brother and I playing on the training equipment at training camp, waiting for the Falcons to come back from the 1998 NFC Championship Game against Minnesota. 

We had no business being in the Super Bowl that year.  This year is different.  I hope my gut is right about this one.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Michael Slusser on January 24, 2017, 02:54:34 PM
The Falcons are not hampered with serious injuries, so they should be able to give a good account of themselves.

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 03, 2017, 07:49:05 PM
America likes to support the underdog in major sporting events.  The sentiment is that the
Patriots have enough Super Bowl trophies, and therefore it is time for the Falcons to get
their first. On this National Holiday called Super Bowl Sunday, we can expect a sag in church
attendance.  Some of our members will be hosting Super Bowl Parties in their home and will
be absent this Sunday.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 06, 2017, 10:27:59 AM
America witnessed a miracle while watching the Super Bowl yesterday.
The Patriots overcame a 25 point deficit to defeat the Falcons for the win.
Patriot quarterback set a Super Bowl record for most passing yards with
466.  The statistic that really grabs you is this:  The time of possession,
for New England was 40 minutes and 31 seconds, while Atlanta only had
the ball on offense for 23 minutes and 27 seconds.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on February 06, 2017, 10:30:35 AM
So, I guess the Green Bay loss to Seattle in the NFC Championship game a couple of years ago is now the second-worst collapse in NFL post-season play.  I really do feel bad for Atlanta, to have lost a game they seemed to have in hand.  I guess this means that Tom Brady can claim to be Bart Starr's equal -- at least in terms of NFL championships.  Truly amazing game and truly amazing team/QB/coach!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 06, 2017, 10:48:10 AM
The NFL now has more rules to protect the quarterback than it did in the 1960's.
Bart Starr played under tougher conditions when the QB was hit harder and more
often.  Tom Brady has the benefit of playing when the QB is tightly guarded by
the rules.  Brady is still an excellent passer who has a quick release and would have
done just fine in the 1960's.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on February 06, 2017, 11:00:03 AM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on February 06, 2017, 11:12:19 AM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?

Grace alone. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on February 06, 2017, 12:00:04 PM
Got that. I'm a non-sports guy, only picking up details from the atmosphere and folks around me. I guess he did his penance.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 06, 2017, 05:03:46 PM
Patriot quarterback Tom Brady is now being called the greatest NFL QB in history.
He has 5 Super Bowl rings and many NFL passing records on his resume.

Coming out of the University Michigan in the 2000 NFL Draft, Brady was the 199th
pick which came in the 6th round.   He was not a highly regarded QB in the eyes
of NFL scouts.  However, at 6'4" and 225 pounds, he has a great build for a pro QB
and has worked hard at his craft.  At 39 years of age, you wonder how much mileage
is left on his body.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on February 06, 2017, 05:04:50 PM
Got that. I'm a non-sports guy, only picking up details from the atmosphere and folks around me. I guess he did his penance.

Yes, he walked up all the steps in the John Hancock Tower on his knees.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: RogerMartim on February 06, 2017, 05:49:33 PM
And he was a cheat.

His head needs to be deflated more than the ball he threw last year which cost him a well-deserved suspension.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on February 06, 2017, 05:59:51 PM
The Brady haters (which this Michigan guy could never be) might want to spend some time at this web site before casting too many stones at New England:  http://yourteamcheats.com/ (http://yourteamcheats.com/).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on February 06, 2017, 08:03:48 PM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?

Yes, Charles, this is the athlete who snatched victiry fom the jaws of defeat. As one commentqtor wrote:

"It is now certain: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are without peers in the history of the game. They took Deflategate, and Sunday's huge deficit, and the haters and doubters, and the weighty challenge of winning a fifth championship, and wove it all into proof of what their singular alchemy has created:
The GOAT NFL head coach.
The GOAT NFL quarterback.
The GOAT comeback in league history and, given all the subtexts and the stage and the fact it was at a Super Bowl, perhaps the GOAT comeback in any sport, ever.
The GOAT -- excuse my language here -- "screw you" moment sports has had the pleasure and awkwardness to watch.
And as the ultimate opus to all of this, it happened in the GOAT Super Bowl, the finest championship game football has ever produced."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on February 06, 2017, 08:15:01 PM
There were many "great reversals" both within the game, and in the larger context of the NE Patriots' recent history.

I cannot help noting the irony of the timing, for yesterday in the Orthodox Church we observed the first of the major pre-Lenten Sunday, the Sunday of the Pharisee and the Publican, Gospel lection being Luke 18.

"For all who exalt themselves will be humbled but those who humble themselves will be exalted."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on February 06, 2017, 09:48:54 PM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?

Yes, Charles, this is the athlete who snatched victiry fom the jaws of defeat. As one commentqtor wrote:

"It is now certain: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are without peers in the history of the game. They took Deflategate, and Sunday's huge deficit, and the haters and doubters, and the weighty challenge of winning a fifth championship, and wove it all into proof of what their singular alchemy has created:
The GOAT NFL head coach.
The GOAT NFL quarterback.
The GOAT comeback in league history and, given all the subtexts and the stage and the fact it was at a Super Bowl, perhaps the GOAT comeback in any sport, ever.
The GOAT -- excuse my language here -- "screw you" moment sports has had the pleasure and awkwardness to watch.
And as the ultimate opus to all of this, it happened in the GOAT Super Bowl, the finest championship game football has ever produced."

I feel a bit embarrassed to ask, but what is the GOAT?  The sentences above make little sense to me.  I really don't follow football other than to support my husband's Bears (without watching the games).  Thank you.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on February 06, 2017, 09:52:47 PM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?

Yes, Charles, this is the athlete who snatched victiry fom the jaws of defeat. As one commentqtor wrote:

"It is now certain: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are without peers in the history of the game. They took Deflategate, and Sunday's huge deficit, and the haters and doubters, and the weighty challenge of winning a fifth championship, and wove it all into proof of what their singular alchemy has created:
The GOAT NFL head coach.
The GOAT NFL quarterback.
The GOAT comeback in league history and, given all the subtexts and the stage and the fact it was at a Super Bowl, perhaps the GOAT comeback in any sport, ever.
The GOAT -- excuse my language here -- "screw you" moment sports has had the pleasure and awkwardness to watch.
And as the ultimate opus to all of this, it happened in the GOAT Super Bowl, the finest championship game football has ever produced."

I feel a bit embarrassed to ask, but what is the GOAT?  The sentences above make little sense to me.  I really don't follow football other than to support my husband's Bears (without watching the games).  Thank you.

Greatest of all time
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Eileen Smith on February 07, 2017, 08:35:06 AM
Isn't this the Tom Brady who was punished with a mult-game suspension because the team cheated?

Yes, Charles, this is the athlete who snatched victiry fom the jaws of defeat. As one commentqtor wrote:

"It is now certain: Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are without peers in the history of the game. They took Deflategate, and Sunday's huge deficit, and the haters and doubters, and the weighty challenge of winning a fifth championship, and wove it all into proof of what their singular alchemy has created:
The GOAT NFL head coach.
The GOAT NFL quarterback.
The GOAT comeback in league history and, given all the subtexts and the stage and the fact it was at a Super Bowl, perhaps the GOAT comeback in any sport, ever.
The GOAT -- excuse my language here -- "screw you" moment sports has had the pleasure and awkwardness to watch.
And as the ultimate opus to all of this, it happened in the GOAT Super Bowl, the finest championship game football has ever produced."

I feel a bit embarrassed to ask, but what is the GOAT?  The sentences above make little sense to me.  I really don't follow football other than to support my husband's Bears (without watching the games).  Thank you.

Greatest of all time

Thank you, James.  Apparently I have a problem with the 8th Commandment as I did not put the best construction on GOATS!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on February 07, 2017, 09:35:12 AM
And using "goat" in a pejorative way is a vestigial remnant of the immoral goatism that has afflicted humanity going way back to biblical times.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Richard Johnson on February 07, 2017, 10:45:36 AM
And using "goat" in a pejorative way is a vestigial remnant of the immoral goatism that has afflicted humanity going way back to biblical times.

This, of course, is exacerbated by the primitive and horrible goatism embodied in the Old Testament sacrificial laws, showing once again that we should excise or radically reinterpret certain portions of Scripture that don't represent modern sensitivities.  8)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 17, 2017, 09:46:47 AM
Here are some salary figures to prove that college football is big business.

At the University of Iowa, the head coach makes $4,800,000 per year.
The offensive coordinator receives $625,000 per year.
The defensive coordinator makes  $625,000 per year.
The strength and conditioning coach makes $625,000 per year.
The quarterback coach makes $540,00 per year

Then, there are the remaining five coaches who make between $400,000
and $200,000 per year.  They coach defensive backs, defensive line,
running backs, offensive line, etc.

Yes, there is big money in sports on the college level.  If you have one of
these coaches in your parish and he tithes, then you hit the jackpot. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 05, 2017, 10:08:54 AM
Since, I am an Iowan by birth, and a Hawkeye Fan by the Grace of God, I want to congratulate
the Iowa Hawkeye Football team.  Yesterday, they defeated the 6th ranked Ohio State Buckeyes
by a score of 55 to 24.  The game took place in Kinnick Stadium in Iowa City also known as
"Hawkeye Heaven".   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on November 05, 2017, 12:25:16 PM
I am an Iowa Hawkeye fan by choice.  I was a resident of the Hawkeye State for only 20 of my 75 years.  My maternal great-grand father came from Norway to Iowa.   My paternal great-grand father came from Norway to Minnesota.   I could have it either way, but I choose Iowa. Saturday's triumph over Ohio was the biggest upset in college football history in the past 150 years.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on November 05, 2017, 02:21:44 PM
I am an Iowa Hawkeye fan by choice.  I was a resident of the Hawkeye State for only 20 of my 75 years.  My maternal great-grand father came from Norway to Iowa.   My paternal great-grand father came from Norway to Minnesota.   I could have it either way, but I choose Iowa. Saturday's triumph over Ohio was the biggest upset in college football history in the past 150 years.

Since before football even began in its present form!  I will say as a fan of the only undefeated team in the Big Ten, the Wisconsin Badgers, that any time Ohio State takes a beat-down I am a happy camper.  And that was a level one big-time beat-down.  The story about the kid who had just completed cancer surgery in the hospital next to the stadium stating prophetically that the Hawkeyes would score a touchdown on a fake field goal was amazing, and the spill-out of fans onto the field was the stuff of legends.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 05, 2017, 02:41:00 PM
Norman, speaking of Norwegian heritage, both of my grandparents on my father's side were born
in Norway.  They came to Davenport, Iowa via Ellis Island in New York.  My father and I were both
born in Davenport.

Remembering famous Norwegians, here is a spectacular irony.   The late, great Knute Rockne was
born in Norway,  This Lutheran man became a famous coach at the Roman Catholic university of
Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 05, 2017, 04:11:14 PM
Go Irish!

That is all.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 05, 2017, 04:17:19 PM
I gave the worst anniversary gift to my husband . . . EVER!  We were in Kinnick Stadium yesterday for the beat down.  I can't remember a time I've been so humiliated.  On the way there the night before, a deer hit our car.  I'm done with football!  lol

The only thing that I think saved us from total mocking by the fans was that it was military appreciation day, and I stood when they recognized veterans.  I will say the good people of Iowa were very kind and hospitable.  The Iowa fans that had imbibed a bit too much in the stands, well, that's another story.

"There's nothing that cleanses your soul like getting the hell kicked out of you." - Woody Hayes
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 05, 2017, 04:31:12 PM
Buckeye Deaconess.....You were blessed to be in Hawkeye Heaven....."Blessed are the Ohio St. Buckeyes
fans who mourn their loss to the Iowa Hawkeyes 55-24, for they shall be comforted." (Matthew 5:4)

You can be comforted that the Ohio State Buckeyes are still ranked #11 in the AP Poll instead of #6.
You can be comforted that Ohio State does not play Iowa next season on their football schedule.
You can be comforted that Ohio State Coach Urban Meyer's press conference after the game lasted less than 4 minutes
You can be comforted that Ohio St. only had 4 turnovers and  only 95 yards in penalties..
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 05, 2017, 04:49:44 PM
Wow, your pastoral care is so . . . well . . . Pastor Likeness.  ha ha

I haven't been able to bring myself to read or watch any college football-related news.  I'm not sure they deserve the #11 spot, but I suppose that's better news than I expected to hear.

We were able to have a mini-reunion with some family members who, unbeknownst to us, had bought tickets to the game, too.  They traveled all the way from Ohio.  We only had a four hour drive home last evening.  So there was good that came from the beat down . . . I got to see my folks, and the children's hospital wave was amazing to be a part of.  The band and fans did a great job of honoring veterans yesterday, so that was really cool.  Us Ohio football fans took comfort in the fact that we wouldn't have more heartbreak today . . . the Browns had a bye week.  ;D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 05, 2017, 05:07:29 PM
Buckeye Deaconess,

I am in  Texas to be a part of a Reformation celebration - they brought both our Kapelle and Wind Symphony here for twp concerts. Tonight it is at the Meyerson Symphony Center in Dallas.

I saw the score. 55-24. Annette and I took the University Deaconess out to lunch after Divine Service. She was not wearing scarlet and gray but the beautiful blue and gold uniform of a deaconess. I was kind and pastoral to her Buckeye soul as I will be with you.

55-24
Fifty-five to twenty-four
LV - XXIV
Fünfundfünfzig bis Vierundzwanzig


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 05, 2017, 05:21:13 PM
Sir, I'm in the middle of teaching an MBA course on leadership at your fine institution.  Shall I make a case example out of you this week?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 05, 2017, 05:37:38 PM
Sir, I'm in the middle of teaching an MBA course on leadership at your fine institution.  Shall I make a case example out of you this week?

Sure.

It can be called, "Theory of Leadership: Modern Machiavellianism".
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: J. Eriksson on November 05, 2017, 07:23:06 PM
  On the way there the night before, a deer hit our car. 

This is more serious than the football loss.  But doesn't it go "Car hits deer" instead of " Deer hits car".
were you carrying your hunting tags?  able to harvest some road kill? 
drive on after the incident?  you and husband okay?

best james 
still seeking revenge for the time Dec 2010 a deer totaled my MPV. It was worth less than the repair bill.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on November 06, 2017, 08:58:12 AM
Wow, your pastoral care is so . . . well . . . Pastor Likeness.  ha ha

I haven't been able to bring myself to read or watch any college football-related news.  I'm not sure they deserve the #11 spot, but I suppose that's better news than I expected to hear.

We were able to have a mini-reunion with some family members who, unbeknownst to us, had bought tickets to the game, too.  They traveled all the way from Ohio.  We only had a four hour drive home last evening.  So there was good that came from the beat down . . . I got to see my folks, and the children's hospital wave was amazing to be a part of.  The band and fans did a great job of honoring veterans yesterday, so that was really cool.  Us Ohio football fans took comfort in the fact that we wouldn't have more heartbreak today . . . the Browns had a bye week.  ;D

Sorry for your pain.  I was actually thinking of you as a representative Buckeye fan while watching that game unfold.  They kept showing Ohio State fans weirdly painted on TV, trying to look away but forced to endure it, lone teardrops in a sea of happiness.  And you were among them! 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on November 06, 2017, 12:42:55 PM
Iowa fans taunting the fans of the losing team is a part of football. It's not very nice.  Several weeks ago, I ejected from the stadium a drunken home town fan who was taunting visiting fans from Wisconsin.  We'd like to think that we are Vikings, but  not barbarians. It's all about the beer.  The celebratory song of the Iowa Hawkeyes is:  "In heaven, there is no beer, that's why we drink it here." I am sure that this song was sung into the night well after Coach Meyer loaded his team on to the return flight to Ohio.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 06, 2017, 07:49:51 PM
  On the way there the night before, a deer hit our car. 

This is more serious than the football loss.  But doesn't it go "Car hits deer" instead of " Deer hits car".
were you carrying your hunting tags?  able to harvest some road kill? 
drive on after the incident?  you and husband okay?

best james 
still seeking revenge for the time Dec 2010 a deer totaled my MPV. It was worth less than the repair bill.

No, the deer indeed hit our car.  He ran right into the back end of it.  We were there first.  lol

The deer survived to make that crazy highway crossing again on another day.  No injuries to us, thankfully, and the damage wasn't too bad.  We did call the police, and let me just say it was a good thing we were still in our black and gold game gear from Lutheran High School South's big district championship football victory that night.  When we told them we were on our way to the Iowa game, they may not have been so nice and helpful if we had our scarlet and gray gear on.  ;D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Pastor Ken Kimball on November 06, 2017, 07:53:26 PM
I did love the irony of hearing the announcers tout the superior athletes on the Ohio State team, saying how the Hawkeye receivers wouldn't be able to gain the separation from the Ohio State DB's to allow any passing success and conversely how Iowa's DB's wouldn't be able to cover Ohio State's receivers.  5 passing TD's and 4 interceptions later...

Before 2014, my college football cheering commitments were in this order:  the University of Minnesota (my home state--but usually an exercise in futility), the University of Michigan (where I attended 1978-1980), Iowa State (where our daughter and her husband attended and graduated from), and the University of Iowa (out of loyalty to the state where I have served as a pastor, at that point for 27 years), and then for whoever was playing against Ohio State and Michigan State.  Since 2014, the University of Iowa moved to the top of list due entirely to the fact that a wonderful young man whom I had the privilege to baptize and confirm and still be pastor to, Parker Hesse, received a scholarship from the U of I and has been the starting right defensive end for three years.  I'm now pulling for Ohio State to beat Michigan State and for the University of Michigan to beat Ohio State so that the Big 10's Eastern Division ends with four teams having a 6-2 Big 10 Record.  Of course, I'm not opposed at all to Ohio State, MSU, and Penn State each losing an additional game that would leave them 5-3 in the Big 10 and UM winning the Eastern Division 6-2--but I'm not putting any money on that. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 06, 2017, 07:56:00 PM
Iowa fans taunting the fans of the losing team is a part of football. It's not very nice.  Several weeks ago, I ejected from the stadium a drunken home town fan who was taunting visiting fans from Wisconsin.  We'd like to think that we are Vikings, but  not barbarians. It's all about the beer.  The celebratory song of the Iowa Hawkeyes is:  "In heaven, there is no beer, that's why we drink it here." I am sure that this song was sung into the night well after Coach Meyer loaded his team on to the return flight to Ohio.

Actually, I'm seriously considering moving to Iowa given how friendly and hospitable the majority of Iowa fans were that we came across.  lol  We were thanked on numerous occasions for making the trip.  We waited in line to see Coach Meyer and J. T. Barrett exit the buses, and the Iowa student workers were so much fun to talk to while we waited.  The bed and breakfast we stayed at had Iowa fans there, and we broke bread at breakfast together in complete peace.  One wonderful lady Iowa fan shook my hand after I stood when veterans were honored.  It was a super fun time apart from the deer messing up my beautiful Jeep and having that walk of shame out of the stadium.  I've sworn off ever buying my husband another anniversary present.  This one was an epic fail.   ;D

Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on November 06, 2017, 07:59:53 PM
Of course, I'm not opposed at all to Ohio State, MSU, and Penn State each losing an additional game that would leave them 5-3 in the Big 10 and UM winning the Eastern Division 6-2--but I'm not putting any money on that.

Let's all cheer for any team playing Notre Dame, too, just to annoy Dr. Gard.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 06, 2017, 08:26:24 PM
Of course, I'm not opposed at all to Ohio State, MSU, and Penn State each losing an additional game that would leave them 5-3 in the Big 10 and UM winning the Eastern Division 6-2--but I'm not putting any money on that.

Let's all cheer for any team playing Notre Dame, too, just to annoy Dr. Gard.

Annoyed? Moi?

ND fans are used to abuse..... :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 08, 2017, 08:58:14 PM
Pastor Kimball mentions that he baptized and confirmed Parker Hesse who is  a star for the Iowa
Hawkeye football team.  There is always a sense of excitement when our parish members have
successful careers in high school and college sports. Some of the youth I confirmed went on to
be All-State in high school and got an athletic scholarship for college.  One gal I confirmed went
on to have success as a soccer player.  She set some state scoring records in high school and
got a full scholarship to DePaul University in Illinois.

Bottom Line:  Sports is still the toy department of life. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 24, 2017, 05:18:47 PM
How bad are the winless 0-15 Cleveland Browns this season?

Today, the major newspaper in Cleveland has removed the Browns
from the sports section.  They have been placed on the obituary page.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on December 25, 2017, 05:17:51 PM
That's a great joke.   Browns have won only one game in two seasons.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 25, 2017, 05:29:44 PM
Our Buckeye Deaconess is probably not watching much football these days.
Her Ohio State Buckeyes did not make the Final Four for the College Football playoffs
and her Cleveland Browns could end the season 0-16.  However, Kim believes that
when the going gets tough, the tough get going.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: James_Gale on December 25, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Our Buckeye Deaconess is probably not watching much football these days.
Her Ohio State Buckeyes did not make the Final Four for the College Football playoffs
and her Cleveland Browns could end the season 0-16.  However, Kim believes that
when the going gets tough, the tough get going.


My Wolverines have struggled for a decade or so. But some of the players (and at least one coach) will be sporting orange hair on Monday against South Carolina to raise money for the fight against a type of childhood cancer. They are at this time over $125,000.


Check it out:  [size=78%]https://www.crowdrise.com/o/en/campaign/chaseforchad/chasewinovich (https://www.crowdrise.com/o/en/campaign/chaseforchad/chasewinovich)[/size]
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on December 26, 2017, 08:12:52 PM
Our Buckeye Deaconess is probably not watching much football these days.
Her Ohio State Buckeyes did not make the Final Four for the College Football playoffs
and her Cleveland Browns could end the season 0-16.  However, Kim believes that
when the going gets tough, the tough get going.

I'll be watching the Buckeyes on Friday as they take on USC.  As for the Browns, I'll continue to live out the theology of the cross in my following of them.  Maybe some year they'll turn it around.  :-\
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 14, 2018, 09:11:12 PM
We are not allowed in our religion, the Legion of the Green and Gold, to watch the Vikings play football, to know who is on their roster, to speak of them in a positive way, or to ever give the impression of rooting for them.  They are The Others.  The are Distant.  They have No Inherent Value.

Having said all that, the last play of the Vikings/Saints game today leaves an indelible mark.  How did that happen?  It was noted that one of the players for the Vikings actually grew up in Detroit Lakes, MN.  Again, how did that happen?  The Vikings, the cruel pagan Norsemen, beat the Saints, whose logo is the Fleur de Lis, a lily, a symbol of religious hope. 

How did that happen?  In a perverse way, it was enjoyable.  North beats South.  Cold beats Warm. 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on January 14, 2018, 10:18:50 PM
WTG, Vikings! Not a sports nut, am I, but this was way cool.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 14, 2018, 10:22:40 PM
Former Minnesota Viking Head Coach Bud Grant goes to his office at the Vikings Headquarters every day.
He is in his 50th year with the Vikings organization and was excited about their chances against the Saints today.
Bud Grant got more excitement than he bargained for in this evening's Miracle In Minnesota. game.  As the Vikings
try again to win their first Super Bowl, fans of the Bears, the Packers and the Lions wish their divisional rival the best.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: John_Hannah on January 15, 2018, 06:59:56 AM
WTG, Vikings! Not a sports nut, am I, but this was way cool.

You betcha! I left a Manhattan restaurant in the 3rd quarter with the Vikings still leading. When I got home, they were about to loose. Suddenly, at the last second . . . ! I was a pastor in Minnesota once upon a time and have never lost the hope that one year the Vikings will finally prevail.   ;D

Peace, JOHN
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 15, 2018, 07:53:42 AM
When I got home, they were about to loose.

And that's exactly what they did! I came in from blowing snow, and MariJo was on the phone with a friend who was lamenting the Viking loss. Disappointed, I updated my online game feed and saw the result. Bewildered, I refreshed. "No, the Vikings won!" Checked another site. "No, they really did!"

Thankfully, the replay already was all over the internet.  :-)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 15, 2018, 08:28:03 AM
Very happy for the Vikings.  But, I have to say, it kinda reminded me of this play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmyLLxRNcA (I am a Packers fan, after all).
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peterm on January 15, 2018, 12:28:29 PM
We had our Cub Scout Pinewood Derby yesterday during the game....All racing and activity stopped for the last 3 minutes of the game (Is there any time span longer than the last three minutes of an NFL game that is close?)  Folks were hunched over phones and tablets...pandemonium ensued at the last play!  The I got busy because everyone visited the concession stand for a bottle of water or Soda.  Go Vikings!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 15, 2018, 12:46:44 PM
Having lived in Minnesota for 4 years as a pastor and 3 years in St. Louis as a seminarian
I always wondered why the Metro-Area of St. Louis could not support an NBA team or NFL
team but the Metro-area of St. Paul/Minneapolis could.

The NBA team of the St. Louis Hawks moved to Atlanta many, many years ago.
The NFL team of the St. Louis Rams recently moved back to L.A. and before that the St Louis
Cardinals moved to Arizona.

According to 2015 statistics, the  Metro-area of St. Louis is 2,811, 588 and the Metro area
of St. Paul/Minneapolis is 3, 866,766.  So the Minnesota Vikings have over 1 million more
potential fans than the St Louis NFL team had. 


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on January 15, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
I'm just going to chime in about Pastor Likeness' most recent comment:  ST. LOUIS HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE NFL TEAM IN THEIR CITY!

The Bidwill's owned the St. Louis football Cardinals and were less than competent owners.  Michael Bidwill, son of Bill, is a better, more engaged owner with the Cardinals in Phoenix than his father was in St. Louis. 

Enos Stanley Kroenke (yes, named after Enos Slaughter and Stan Musial) owns the team now, having purchased majority ownership after Georgia Frontiere's death in the mid-2000s.  Kroenke's goal was always to move the team from St. Louis to LA.  The city entered into a bad lease agreement with the Rams, and Kroenke was going to hold the city to it.  And when Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones are moving the goal posts and maneuvering behind the scenes, well, the city never had a chance. 

The dome in St. Louis was always over 90% capacity on game day.  It was a tremendous home field advantage during the "Greatest Show on Turf" era under Dick Vermeil/Mike Martz.  Under Kroenke's watch, the team was miserable...Cleveland Brown miserable and the fans still showed up.  Kroenke hired Jeff Fischer to be the coach at one point.  Why?  Because Jeff Fischer was the coach of the Houston Oilers and oversaw the move to Tennessee. 

St. Louis has always supported the football team.  They are great, passionate, knowledgeable fans who have never had much to root for.

The St. Louis Rams were stolen from them by their owner with the complicity of the commissioner of the NFL.  Stan Kroenke can rot in hell!  And so can Goodell.

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on January 15, 2018, 01:28:02 PM

The St. Louis Rams were stolen from them by their owner with the complicity of the commissioner of the NFL.  Stan Kroenke can rot in hell!  And so can Goodell.
I would point out that the Rams were originally stolen by St. Louis FROM Los Angeles...except very few in that city cared at the time.  Frankly I'm not sure how many care now.  Though I have no doubt a hardy few do.  Not enough to prevent your Philadelphia Eagles from having home games this season in LA against the Chargers and Rams.  #FlyEaglesFly

The commish must be a nice man, because he was talking to that 100 year old Viking fan, right?  Perhaps she was cursing him out, just like every other NFL fan wants to.  ;)

Sterling Spatz
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 15, 2018, 01:30:53 PM
@Jeremy Loesch

May the St. Louis Cardinals baseball team bring you much joy.  St. Louis is known as
"The BaseBall Capital of the Midwest".  MLB has a rich heritage of Hall of Famers from
the St. Louis Cardinals.  To name just one:  Stan the Man.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on January 15, 2018, 01:36:12 PM
Next Sunday at our congregation should be interesting...what with our young associate pastor (the free prayer guy FYI) being a Minnesota native and having survived a visit to the Linc last year when the Eagles thrashed his Vikings.  It's his turn to preach.

The senior pastor, a North Jersey native still loyal to the Yankees who nevertheless enjoys tweaking his pastoral partner, pointed out that the final verse of yesterday's recessional hymn mentioned "soaring like an eagle".  (Sorry can't remember what its title.)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 15, 2018, 02:13:13 PM
It was a thriller.   The Saints fans were great.  One woman congratulated me at the end of the game and kissed me on the cheek. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 15, 2018, 02:58:56 PM
Having lived in Minnesota for 4 years as a pastor and 3 years in St. Louis as a seminarian
I always wondered why the Metro-Area of St. Louis could not support an NBA team or NFL
team but the Metro-area of St. Paul/Minneapolis could.

The NBA team of the St. Louis Hawks moved to Atlanta many, many years ago.
The NFL team of the St. Louis Rams recently moved back to L.A. and before that the St Louis
Cardinals moved to Arizona.

According to 2015 statistics, the  Metro-area of St. Louis is 2,811, 588 and the Metro area
of St. Paul/Minneapolis is 3, 866,766.  So the Minnesota Vikings have over 1 million more
potential fans than the St Louis NFL team had.

Metro population of Green Bay WI: 282, 599. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 15, 2018, 03:23:22 PM
Very happy for the Vikings.  But, I have to say, it kinda reminded me of this play: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQmyLLxRNcA (I am a Packers fan, after all).

Metro population of Green Bay WI: 282, 599.

You remind me of our resident ELCA cheerleader who needs to tout his whenever something good is said about another.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 15, 2018, 03:38:06 PM
I'm just going to chime in about Pastor Likeness' most recent comment:  ST. LOUIS HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE NFL TEAM IN THEIR CITY!

The Bidwill's owned the St. Louis football Cardinals and were less than competent owners.  Michael Bidwill, son of Bill, is a better, more engaged owner with the Cardinals in Phoenix than his father was in St. Louis. 

Enos Stanley Kroenke (yes, named after Enos Slaughter and Stan Musial) owns the team now, having purchased majority ownership after Georgia Frontiere's death in the mid-2000s.  Kroenke's goal was always to move the team from St. Louis to LA.  The city entered into a bad lease agreement with the Rams, and Kroenke was going to hold the city to it.  And when Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones are moving the goal posts and maneuvering behind the scenes, well, the city never had a chance. 

The dome in St. Louis was always over 90% capacity on game day.  It was a tremendous home field advantage during the "Greatest Show on Turf" era under Dick Vermeil/Mike Martz.  Under Kroenke's watch, the team was miserable...Cleveland Brown miserable and the fans still showed up.  Kroenke hired Jeff Fischer to be the coach at one point.  Why?  Because Jeff Fischer was the coach of the Houston Oilers and oversaw the move to Tennessee. 

St. Louis has always supported the football team.  They are great, passionate, knowledgeable fans who have never had much to root for.

The St. Louis Rams were stolen from them by their owner with the complicity of the commissioner of the NFL.  Stan Kroenke can rot in hell!  And so can Goodell.

Jeremy

I feel your pain.  Greed is god.  Next up is the Raiders.  They will be in Vegas within a few years.  I thought the Chargers' move from San Diego was weird, because San Diego is really a nice place. 

As to my team, Green Bay - they will leave Lambeau the day after the Second Coming.  Not day of - people will have to be removed from the Packer Hall of Fame under duress and that will take awhile.  But that team will remain in that spot until football is no more. 

 And neither the Yankees or the Rangers will ever leave New York.  Or the Knicks or, I insist, the Mets.  And I don't think the Blues will be leaving St. Louis in this millenium.  Or the Cubbies or Blackhawks Chicago.  I could envision the White Sox relocating.  Tigers/Pistons/Redwings/Lions - Michigan furderber.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on January 16, 2018, 11:40:31 AM
I'm just going to chime in about Pastor Likeness' most recent comment:  ST. LOUIS HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED THE NFL TEAM IN THEIR CITY!

The Bidwill's owned the St. Louis football Cardinals and were less than competent owners.  Michael Bidwill, son of Bill, is a better, more engaged owner with the Cardinals in Phoenix than his father was in St. Louis. 

Enos Stanley Kroenke (yes, named after Enos Slaughter and Stan Musial) owns the team now, having purchased majority ownership after Georgia Frontiere's death in the mid-2000s.  Kroenke's goal was always to move the team from St. Louis to LA.  The city entered into a bad lease agreement with the Rams, and Kroenke was going to hold the city to it.  And when Roger Goodell and Jerry Jones are moving the goal posts and maneuvering behind the scenes, well, the city never had a chance. 

The dome in St. Louis was always over 90% capacity on game day.  It was a tremendous home field advantage during the "Greatest Show on Turf" era under Dick Vermeil/Mike Martz.  Under Kroenke's watch, the team was miserable...Cleveland Brown miserable and the fans still showed up.  Kroenke hired Jeff Fischer to be the coach at one point.  Why?  Because Jeff Fischer was the coach of the Houston Oilers and oversaw the move to Tennessee. 

St. Louis has always supported the football team.  They are great, passionate, knowledgeable fans who have never had much to root for.

The St. Louis Rams were stolen from them by their owner with the complicity of the commissioner of the NFL.  Stan Kroenke can rot in hell!  And so can Goodell.

Jeremy

I feel your pain.  Greed is god.  Next up is the Raiders.  They will be in Vegas within a few years.  I thought the Chargers' move from San Diego was weird, because San Diego is really a nice place. 

As to my team, Green Bay - they will leave Lambeau the day after the Second Coming.  Not day of - people will have to be removed from the Packer Hall of Fame under duress and that will take awhile.  But that team will remain in that spot until football is no more. 

 And neither the Yankees or the Rangers will ever leave New York.  Or the Knicks or, I insist, the Mets.  And I don't think the Blues will be leaving St. Louis in this millenium.  Or the Cubbies or Blackhawks Chicago.  I could envision the White Sox relocating.  Tigers/Pistons/Redwings/Lions - Michigan furderber.

Dave Benke

Bp. Benke, I agree mostly.  I don't think any fan can be 100% certain their team will always be where it is.  Now serving in KC, it's hard not to follow the Chiefs.  They have a fervent fanbase, an exciting team at the present, are an historic AFL franchise, now a stalwart in the NFL.  They have a wonderful stadium that is not that close to downtown KC.  The franchise and fans want to host a Super Bowl like Indy, Minny, Detroit have done.  But a Super Bowl is never coming to KC because the only hotel close to the stadium is a Comfort Inn, a Drury Inn, and I think a Holiday Inn Express.  You can't have a fan fest at Arrowhead Stadium.  Even if the Hunt family managed to get a retractable roof retrofitted on Arrowhead, they still won't get a Super Bowl in the largest city in Missouri.  The Chiefs need a downtown stadium in order to get a Super Bowl.  That means public financing.  And it's a good thing I am not a KC resident because I will never, and have never, voted in favor of public financing for sports arenas of any kind.  Perhaps the residents of Green Bay and Wisconsin will go for footing the bill for Lambeau II.  But I don't think fans, even of historic franchises (Bears, Packers, Chiefs, Cubs, Cardinals, etc) can ever be assured that their favorite sports team won't one day hold them hostage for a new stadium and when that public referendum goes down to ballot box defeat, won't exercise some clause in the lease agreement and take off for greener dollars elsewhere. 

Jeremy (a Redskins fan by birth, then a Rams fan because of my affinity for the baseball Cardinals, and now a resident of Chiefs Kingdom.)

PS- Rot in perdition Stan Kroenke!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: LCMS87 on January 16, 2018, 12:18:04 PM

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Perhaps the residents of Green Bay and Wisconsin will go for footing the bill for Lambeau II.  But I don't think fans, even of historic franchises (Bears, Packers, Chiefs, Cubs, Cardinals, etc) can ever be assured that their favorite sports team won't one day hold them hostage for a new stadium and when that public referendum goes down to ballot box defeat, won't exercise some clause in the lease agreement and take off for greener dollars elsewhere. 
<snip>


You have to remember that the Green Bay Packers are unique.  The team is publicly held.  There is no individual "owner." 

As to footing the bill for Lambeau II, the Packers upgraded the stadium significantly in the last decade or two.  They funded it with the sale of stock in the team, though those shares provide no voting rights and cannot be sold, only inherited or gifted.  The proceeds of the sale could only be used for the stadium upgrades.  As I recall the stock sold out quickly, with the result that some people wanting shares were unable to purchase them.

I write as the father of a proud NFL team owner.  (Very few people can say that unless their offspring are Packers fans.)  While I don't disagree with many of the points you made, the Packers' fans are insulated from the sorts of difficulties you identify.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 16, 2018, 01:03:37 PM
Uh oh...here we go.   :o
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on January 16, 2018, 01:19:24 PM
I realize the Packers are publicly held and sell shares of stock, but I don't know the ins and outs of what that means. 

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 16, 2018, 01:21:20 PM
I realize the Packers are publicly held and sell shares of stock, but I don't know the ins and outs of what that means. 

Jeremy

It means that Steve Bohler owns the Packers.    ;)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on January 16, 2018, 01:46:17 PM
Now serving in KC, it's hard not to follow the Chiefs.  They have a fervent fanbase, an exciting team at the present, are an historic AFL franchise, now a stalwart in the NFL.  They have a wonderful stadium that is not that close to downtown KC.  The franchise and fans want to host a Super Bowl like Indy, Minny, Detroit have done.  But a Super Bowl is never coming to KC because the only hotel close to the stadium is a Comfort Inn, a Drury Inn, and I think a Holiday Inn Express. 
Actually, a Superbowl is never coming to KC (for the forseeable future) because of Andy Reid.  <mic drop>

Perhaps all that winning under Andy Reid is starting to get to you.  I just want you to know I'm here for you, if you ever need to talk to someone.  After all, I have much experience in dealing with the national media ridicule for having been part of the mob which ran him out of Philadelphia, ungrateful about all the winning he gave us--except in NFC championship games and the Superbowl.

Doug Pederson > Andy Reid  ;)

Sterling Spatz
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: LCMS87 on January 16, 2018, 01:47:17 PM
I realize the Packers are publicly held and sell shares of stock, but I don't know the ins and outs of what that means. 

Jeremy

Among other things, there's no all-powerful owner who can insist he's going to take his team to a bigger market with greater potential for profit.  That's not to say everything will always be rosy, but some of the sorts of opportunities for mischief that you enumerated earlier are mitigated.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: LCMS87 on January 16, 2018, 01:49:44 PM
<snip>

Doug Pederson > Andy Reid  ;)

Sterling Spatz

"Of course," my son would say, "Pederson was a Packer."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on January 16, 2018, 01:52:20 PM
Now serving in KC, it's hard not to follow the Chiefs.  They have a fervent fanbase, an exciting team at the present, are an historic AFL franchise, now a stalwart in the NFL.  They have a wonderful stadium that is not that close to downtown KC.  The franchise and fans want to host a Super Bowl like Indy, Minny, Detroit have done.  But a Super Bowl is never coming to KC because the only hotel close to the stadium is a Comfort Inn, a Drury Inn, and I think a Holiday Inn Express. 
Actually, a Superbowl is never coming to KC (for the forseeable future) because of Andy Reid.  <mic drop>

Perhaps all that winning under Andy Reid is starting to get to you.  I just want you to know I'm here for you, if you ever need to talk to someone.  After all, I have much experience in dealing with the national media ridicule for having been part of the mob which ran him out of Philadelphia, ungrateful about all the winning he gave us--except in NFC championship games and the Superbowl.

Doug Pederson > Andy Reid  ;)

Sterling Spatz

I didn't include that I have been warning my Chiefs fan church members that this whole thing will not end well for them.  I was in Delaware from 2005-2014, showing up right after the Eagles were in the Super Bowl, then through the McNabb-Owens fight, the end of the Reid era, the Chip Kelly debacle.  I kind of think the handwriting is on the wall at Arrowhead already. 

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on January 16, 2018, 02:11:48 PM
Now serving in KC, it's hard not to follow the Chiefs.  They have a fervent fanbase, an exciting team at the present, are an historic AFL franchise, now a stalwart in the NFL.  They have a wonderful stadium that is not that close to downtown KC.  The franchise and fans want to host a Super Bowl like Indy, Minny, Detroit have done.  But a Super Bowl is never coming to KC because the only hotel close to the stadium is a Comfort Inn, a Drury Inn, and I think a Holiday Inn Express. 
Actually, a Superbowl is never coming to KC (for the forseeable future) because of Andy Reid.  <mic drop>

Perhaps all that winning under Andy Reid is starting to get to you.  I just want you to know I'm here for you, if you ever need to talk to someone.  After all, I have much experience in dealing with the national media ridicule for having been part of the mob which ran him out of Philadelphia, ungrateful about all the winning he gave us--except in NFC championship games and the Superbowl.

Doug Pederson > Andy Reid  ;)

Sterling Spatz

I didn't include that I have been warning my Chiefs fan church members that this whole thing will not end well for them.  I was in Delaware from 2005-2014, showing up right after the Eagles were in the Super Bowl, then through the McNabb-Owens fight, the end of the Reid era, the Chip Kelly debacle.  I kind of think the handwriting is on the wall at Arrowhead already. 

Jeremy
I apologize for forgetting that we've had this Philadelphia sports conversation here before.  I was more anxious to get in my Andy Reid dig than remember that.  Mea culpa  I hope you are able to comfort your flock.  Been meaning to check out the KC newspapers online to see first hand, but I've heard that the locals have transitioned to stages 3 & 4 at the minimum.  I did see he started his last post-game press conference with the injury reports, as always.  Probably no explanation about how having a double digit lead and the NFL's best running back, he managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.  No explanation other than needing to do a better job next time.   >:(

Much like Joe Jurevicius is still running down the sideline at the last game at Veterans Stadium, Stefon Diggs will forever be doing that in the mind's eye of Saints fans.  At least they have a Lombardi trophy to comfort them.

I have no great illusions of Philadelphia grandeur this year, being without the pride of North Dakota under center.  It's all house money at this point.  I think the Vegas line making the visiting Vikings the favorite is appropriate, even as it is used as motivation in the Eagles locker room (again).

Sterling Spatz
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jeremy Loesch on January 16, 2018, 03:04:13 PM
The Andy Reid press conference  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

People here still haven't caught on to the great ways he manages to say absolutely nothing.  And it is some dark days for all KC sports.  People are ready to move on to Patrick Mahomes.  Think Cleveland would like Alex Smith?  Though Smith doesn't deserve to go to Cleveland.  And there is the impending sense that the Royals are about to repeat the previous era of miserable baseball and the perpetual hope of minor leaguers reaching their potential.  At least they have one championship, unlike the team on the other side of Pennsylvania.  Poor Pittsburgh. 

Jeremy
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 17, 2018, 04:27:49 PM
CBS Minnesota had a story from Saturday's Minnesota Miracle:  Our Lady of Lourdes RC posted this: "If you made any promises during the last ten seconds  Sunday Masses are at 8:30 am, 11:00 am, and 7:00 pm."

The post generated 1,000 reactions within 24 hours and was shared about 2,500 times. Father Dan Griffith is a Packers fan but the church reports that he did wish the Vikings well before the game on Sunday.


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 19, 2018, 10:34:34 AM
Something I wrote on FB back in 2015. After last Sunday, I hope the Vikes don't fall into that mode.

January 19, 2015:
 
No Schadenfreude toward the Packers here; we've been there, too many times.

I think a rabid GB fan put it best. He always disliked Belichick for running up the score. He's changed his mind. Especially in playoff/championship games, never take your foot off the pedal! The 4th interception showed it best when the GB guy intercepted and curled up, probably not wanting to fumble. They were trying to run out the clock, i.e., playing to not lose rather than playing to win. The GB fan said that everyone is griping about the missed catch on the onside kick, but it never should have come to that if they'd been playing to win.

That said, the Hawks' comeback was amazing. One has to admire Wilson. Four interceptions, and the camera was on him all the time on the sidelines. But he never gave up and kept pressing ahead. Ran it in himself and rallied the troops. Those last passes were perfect. What a pro!

Never take your foot off the pedal. It was GB's to lose, and they did.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 21, 2018, 09:27:35 PM
Something I wrote on FB back in 2015. After last Sunday, I hope the Vikes don't fall into that mode.

January 19, 2015:
 
No Schadenfreude toward the Packers here; we've been there, too many times.

I think a rabid GB fan put it best. He always disliked Belichick for running up the score. He's changed his mind. Especially in playoff/championship games, never take your foot off the pedal! The 4th interception showed it best when the GB guy intercepted and curled up, probably not wanting to fumble. They were trying to run out the clock, i.e., playing to not lose rather than playing to win. The GB fan said that everyone is griping about the missed catch on the onside kick, but it never should have come to that if they'd been playing to win.

That said, the Hawks' comeback was amazing. One has to admire Wilson. Four interceptions, and the camera was on him all the time on the sidelines. But he never gave up and kept pressing ahead. Ran it in himself and rallied the troops. Those last passes were perfect. What a pro!

Never take your foot off the pedal. It was GB's to lose, and they did.

Your prophetic words were heard and enacted by the Philadelphia Eagles, talons out for the entire game.  Yipes.  I thought it would be a tight one.  There's that pedal, there's that foot. 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 21, 2018, 09:49:22 PM
Something I wrote on FB back in 2015. After last Sunday, I hope the Vikes don't fall into that mode.

January 19, 2015:
 
No Schadenfreude toward the Packers here; we've been there, too many times.

I think a rabid GB fan put it best. He always disliked Belichick for running up the score. He's changed his mind. Especially in playoff/championship games, never take your foot off the pedal! The 4th interception showed it best when the GB guy intercepted and curled up, probably not wanting to fumble. They were trying to run out the clock, i.e., playing to not lose rather than playing to win. The GB fan said that everyone is griping about the missed catch on the onside kick, but it never should have come to that if they'd been playing to win.

That said, the Hawks' comeback was amazing. One has to admire Wilson. Four interceptions, and the camera was on him all the time on the sidelines. But he never gave up and kept pressing ahead. Ran it in himself and rallied the troops. Those last passes were perfect. What a pro!

Never take your foot off the pedal. It was GB's to lose, and they did.

Your prophetic words were heard and enacted by the Philadelphia Eagles, talons out for the entire game.  Yipes.  I thought it would be a tight one.  There's that pedal, there's that foot. 

Dave Benke

Indeed. I was traveling back from a hospital call in Fargo and turned it off toward the end of the second quarter.   >:(

Reminds me of the one about the Minnesotan who wanted Vikings players for his pall bearers, so that he could be let down one last time.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on January 23, 2018, 08:03:40 AM
Well, that's a tired old joke, Pastor.  The Vikings had a great season but it is not a surprise to me, as a regular attendee of games at US Bank Stadium, that the team had limitations.  The schedule was not the most difficult.  The team's play in the last four games was uninspiring.  It was a miracle to prevail over New Orleans.  I was not dumb-founded by the loss but was surprised at how thorough it was.  Now the Super Bowl is at hand and special training for ushers begins this week.   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on January 23, 2018, 09:38:51 AM
And don’t we all envy Mr. Teigen’s opportunity to be at the Super Bowl?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 23, 2018, 09:50:51 AM
Too bad it didn't put him in a better mood with this morning's unprovoked shots at others. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on January 23, 2018, 10:44:47 AM
Having met Mr. Teigen on a couple of occasions, I think he is almost always in a good mood. Should I become a Minnesotan, I'll gladly look to him for guidance.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 23, 2018, 10:52:48 AM
Having met Mr. Teigen on a couple of occasions, I think he is almost always in a good mood. [Emphasis added]

 ;D
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on January 23, 2018, 11:32:03 AM
 Does everything have to be a shot, Pastor Kirchner? I could conclude after a couple of meetings Whether a person is normally cheerful or normally gloomy. Can’t you?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on January 23, 2018, 11:36:24 AM
Does everything have to be a shot, Pastor Kirchner? I could conclude after a couple of meetings Whether a person is normally cheerful or normally gloomy. Can’t you?

It was "almost always," Charles, not "normally."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on January 23, 2018, 12:25:30 PM
And the last word is yours. You would take it anyway.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on February 03, 2018, 06:16:11 PM
Somehow language related to faith and religion comes on to the scene when football is the topic.  The NY Times Business section page today ran a story on the NFL's biggest prize, team ownership.  One comment was that "the meek may inherit the earth, but you have to be a billionaire to own an NFL team."  Another comment was:  "when you're buying a team, you're not only making a deal between you and the seller, you also have to get the blessing from the NFL."

Some local churches are reaching out to the many visitors who are coming to Minneapolis for the Super Bowl. Church mission work is always to be commended but it is going to be a difficult effort.  Bars are open until 4 am and there is a mighty range of entertainment for the out-of-towners to choose from. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Team Hesse on February 03, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Somehow language related to faith and religion comes on to the scene when football is the topic.  The NY Times Business section page today ran a story on the NFL's biggest prize, team ownership.  One comment was that "the meek may inherit the earth, but you have to be a billionaire to own an NFL team." 


The last thing I would ever want to own is a sports franchise. I like the earth......


Lou (Steward of some of the Lord's earth...aka farmer)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 05, 2018, 01:17:27 AM
Congrats to the Eagles for their first Super Bowl trophy.  Many rags to riches story lines in their victory.
The Head Coach for the Eagles, Pederson was coaching high school football just nine years ago.
The Super Bowl MVP was the second string quarterback Nick Foles who replaced the injured QB Carson
Wentz since December. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on February 05, 2018, 08:59:36 AM
Congrats to the Eagles for their first Super Bowl trophy.  Many rags to riches story lines in their victory.
The Head Coach for the Eagles, Pederson was coaching high school football just nine years ago.
The Super Bowl MVP was the second string quarterback Nick Foles who replaced the injured QB Carson
Wentz since December.

The most combined offense in any NFL game, regular season or playoffs, in the history of the NFL.  Pretty amazing show all around!

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on February 05, 2018, 09:05:15 AM
There is jubilation throughout the Ministerium of Pennsylvania!  Contrary to popular reporting (I do find the apocalyptic expectations amusing), the greater Delaware Valley is not a smoldering ruin this morning.

Our (backup) quarterback is better at catching (touchdown!) passes than the other team's starting quarterback.  If you watched the postgame podium interviews, it was obvious that Jesus wanted the Iggles to win.   ::)

The master couldn't get it done in 13 years; it only took the student 2.  The time's yours!

#FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on February 05, 2018, 11:30:54 AM
It was a great thrill to have been at US Bank Stadium for Super Bowl LII..  I was able to watch much of the game.  I did not see the Half Time Show because of work requirements and my indifference to pop music.  The fans were incredibly polite and friendly.  One man brought his wife and two kids and said that he had paid $56,000 for the four seats.  The stadium crowd was slow to disperse after the game which extended my time on the clock.  Eagles players thanked God and expressed their devotion to Him. It was serious emotion on display.  FWIW: I clocked 14 hours at seventeen bucks an hour.  The last five or six hours were at $24.00 per hour. Parking and uniforms were free. I am tired.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 05, 2018, 11:58:18 AM
Norm had a great day at the office.   He made a $136 for the first 8 hours of work
and $144 for the last 6 hours for a total of  $280 for 14 hrs work. The NFL Super
Bowl of 2018 has been very good to him.  As the late, great Howard Cosell said,
"Sports is the Toy Department of Life".
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Charles Austin on February 05, 2018, 12:02:35 PM
Way to go, Norman!
I watched the whole game, was glad that the Eagles won, even though they were the ones that kept the Vikings out of it.
But the Super Bowl party that I attended, while it had many things to nibble on, had no wings! What’s up with that?
We will probably find time to get together sometime later this year, Norman.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: SomeoneWrites on February 05, 2018, 01:19:11 PM
I'm super glad the Eagles won.  I like seeing other teams/cities take a big win and spreading that kind of love around.

I'm also reminded that I'm glad I don't gamble, because I would have lost sooooo much money.   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: JEdwards on February 05, 2018, 02:04:28 PM
The most combined offense in any NFL game, regular season or playoffs, in the history of the NFL.  Pretty amazing show all around!

Dave Benke

Maybe in terms of yardage, but more points were scored in this epic battle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_in_Miami

Peace,
Jon
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Norman Teigen on February 05, 2018, 07:30:27 PM
Enjoy Wilbon and Kornheiser daily on ESPN. Today they were discussing the infrequent football fans who only watch the Super Bowl for the dramatic touchdown plays.  They are, one of the two said, "like people who only go to church on Easter."
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dan Fienen on November 16, 2018, 04:11:44 PM
Just in case someone has something to say about the LCMS in the "Missouri Synod News Updates" thread.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 16, 2018, 07:39:55 PM
Just in case someone has something to say about the LCMS in the "Missouri Synod News Updates" thread.

I can't speak for Dr. Benke or Rev. Speckhard, but the Packers are NOT frivolous!  And they way the Packers have been playing this year, it sometimes hardly seems like football.  So, clearly, this thread would not be the place for our comments on the team from Titletown. :)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on November 17, 2018, 10:03:54 PM
I will say that the amount of folks at the LCEF conference who had intense opinions on the Packers was extraordinarily large.  And filled with the kind of passion normally reserved in our national gatherings for deep theological conversation and reflection. 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 18, 2018, 11:58:02 PM
Yesterday, the University of Iowa beat the University of Illinois in football 63-0
This defeat of the Fighting Illini was worse than Custer's Last Stand at Little  Big Horn.
The real kicker is that Iowa won in the home stadium of Illinois in Champaign

So after the Hawkeyes beat up the Illini, the football fans were wondering what the
Chicago Bears would do against the Minnesota Vikings tonight.  The Bears beat the
Vikings in Soldier Field in Chicago  and stay in first place in the NFL North Division.
The Bears have a record of 7 wins and 3 losses.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 19, 2018, 08:44:48 AM
Yesterday, the University of Iowa beat the University of Illinois in football 63-0
This defeat of the Fighting Illini was worse than Custer's Last Stand at Little  Big Horn.
The real kicker is that Iowa won in the home stadium of Illinois in Champaign

So after the Hawkeyes beat up the Illini, the football fans were wondering what the
Chicago Bears would do against the Minnesota Vikings tonight.  The Bears beat the
Vikings in Soldier Field in Chicago  and stay in first place in the NFL North Division.
The Bears have a record of 7 wins and 3 losses.

Makes me wonder how the non-fighting Illini would have done.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Donald_Kirchner on November 24, 2018, 06:45:49 PM
Finally... after 14 years... the axe is back!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 25, 2018, 08:00:48 AM
Finally... after 14 years... the axe is back!

Will the Vikings make it a clean sweep tonight for Minnesota fans over their neighbors to the east?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on November 25, 2018, 08:04:00 PM
Finally... after 14 years... the axe is back!

Will the Vikings make it a clean sweep tonight for Minnesota fans over their neighbors to the east?

No.  It must not happen.  Heads of Cheese must be worn proudly through the Mall of America after this game.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on November 25, 2018, 11:16:31 PM
Well, at least the Bucks are doing well.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on November 26, 2018, 08:45:53 AM
Finally... after 14 years... the axe is back!

Will the Vikings make it a clean sweep tonight for Minnesota fans over their neighbors to the east?

No.  It must not happen.  Heads of Cheese must be worn proudly through the Mall of America after this game.

Dave Benke

Ugh.  The Cheese stands alone, mediocre and forlorn.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on November 26, 2018, 09:02:57 AM
Current NFC North Division Standings

Chicago........8-3
Minnesota.....6-4-1
Green Bay.....4-6-1
Detroit......... 4-7

Holy Vince Lombardi Batman...Green Packers are closer to last place than first place.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Daniel L. Gard on November 26, 2018, 09:29:30 AM
Most important sports fact: Notre Dame is 12-0 and headed to the playoffs.

The Grotto will be very busy over the next month.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 02, 2018, 09:12:18 PM
Today, December 2, is the 35th birthday of Green Bay Packers QB Aaron Rodgers

Today December 2, is the day Green Bay Packers fired Head Coach Mike McCarthy
after 13 seasons at the helm.  .His loss to the Arizona Cardinals today sealed the
deal and left the Packers with a record of 4-7-1

Bottom Line: Word on the street in Green Bay is that Rodgers and McCarthy were
no longer on the same page.  This was seen as a birthday gift for Aaron Rodgers.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 04, 2018, 05:20:21 PM
Today, December 4, Coach Urban Meyer of Ohio State announced his retirement after 7 seasons
with the Buckeyes.  He won one National Championship and three Big Ten Championships.  He
beat arch rival Michigan 7 straight times.  In fact in those 7 seasons the Buckeyes won 82 games
and lost only 9.

The 54 year old Meyer has a brain cyst and his doctors have advised him that the stress and strain
of coaching college football is bad for his health.  As an Iowa Hawkeye I wish him good luck in his
retirement and enjoyed his tenure in the Big Ten.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 04, 2018, 08:21:13 PM
Tonight, as Buckeye Deaconess lays her head upon her pillow there will be a few moist tears.
Urban Meyer's retirement is a sad occasion for the football fans of Ohio State.  However, as
she slumbers into dream land may this give her some comfort.

The highest winning percentage by college football coaches with at least 10 seasons.

Knute Rockne........105-12-5  (.881 %)
Frank Leahy...........107-13-9 (.864 %)
Urban Meyer..........186-32....(.853 %)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Buckeye Deaconess on December 04, 2018, 11:37:16 PM
Tonight, as Buckeye Deaconess lays her head upon her pillow there will be a few moist tears.
Urban Meyer's retirement is a sad occasion for the football fans of Ohio State.  However, as
she slumbers into dream land may this give her some comfort.

The highest winning percentage by college football coaches with at least 10 seasons.

Knute Rockne........105-12-5  (.881 %)
Frank Leahy...........107-13-9 (.864 %)
Urban Meyer..........186-32....(.853 %)

As the person who chaired the LCMS Domestic Violence and Child Abuse Task Force, I've been pretty critical of Meyer's handling of the Zach and Courtney Smith DV situation.  He let his relationship with Earl Bruce take precedence over making ethical leadership decisions, so I haven't been a big fan as of late.  I hope Coach Day can exhibit strong leadership both on and off the field.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 10, 2018, 11:10:26 PM
With so many Lutherans living in Illinois, Minnesota. Wisconsin, and Michigan, it is good to pause
on this December 10, and look at the NFC North Division standings after 13 weeks.

Chicago Bears............9-4
Minnesota Vikings...... 6-6-1
Green Bay Packers......5-7-1
Detrolt Lions..............5-8
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Pastor Ken Kimball on December 10, 2018, 11:44:30 PM
The lesson for the Packers and Vikings is that when you spend so much on a big-time QB, it tends to cut into what you can spend for the other 21 offensive and defensive positions (and back ups).  And worse, when the QB you spend so much on may not be worth what you spent.  Never, never, never spend big bucks on an MSU QB.  Zimmer said last March that if the Vikings brain trust chose wrongly in the QB they got, it would probably end up with him getting fired.   
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 19, 2018, 11:14:29 AM
As we rejoice that the security issues of the ALPB Forum have been fixed, we also take a break
from the  issue of whether Nadia Bolz-Weber  wants a common law marriage in Tennessee.

Since this past Sunday there has been a steady stream of tears flowing from the streets of
Green Bay, Wisconsin. The reason becomes clear when you look at the North Division standings
where the Chicago Bears have won the division.

Chicago Bears.........10-4
Minnesota Vikings.....7-6-1
Green Bay Packers....5-8-1
Detroit Lions............5=9
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on December 22, 2018, 10:11:31 PM
Here's some end-of-Advent cheer.  Mill Neck Manor School for the Deaf, a Lutheran organization, had a special treat this past week as the Harlem Globetrotters visited, and one of the Globetrotters gave the children and all in attendance an extra gift for Christmas:


https://www.facebook.com/HarlemGlobetrotters/videos/398149994294459/?t=3

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on December 23, 2018, 07:48:33 PM
Just returned from Also-Ran Bowl Metro New York #1: 

Packers beat Jets in OT, 44-38 - YES.  So about a third of the fans today were wearing green and gold.  Including the first people we ran into, from Westchester, NY with extended fam and kids in Packer attire, who comped me their last Usinger's brat.   Packer Nation travels well.  The most important play of the game was the OT coin toss, which went to ARod.  Game over.

Also-Ran Bowl Metro NY #2 is played Wednesday at Yankee Stadium.  As of now we're not going.  None of this stuff is cheap.  Love to pray there, not to play there.  The Pinstripe Bowl - Badgers v. Miami Hurricanes.  Badgers are going to romp.  That's what Badgers do.  Maybe we'll head up there.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on December 29, 2018, 09:52:11 PM
Today, in a semi-final game for the College Football National Championship we saw something spectacular.
As Clemson beat Notre Dame 30-3, they were led by a true freshman quarterback named Trevor Lawrence.
He passed for 3 touchdowns and had 327 total passing yards.  As he completed 27 out of 39 passes he had
a 69% completion rate.  He had an outstanding quarterback rating for the game of 165.0.

Most folks look down on freshmen students in college.  They are considered the lowest class on campus when
compared to the prestigious seniors.  And yet tonight the college football world has seen a lowly freshman
achieve something great. Trevor Lawrence may not win the National Championship but he has already become
a legend at Clemson.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Steven W Bohler on January 07, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
Packers got their new coach.  What do you think, Dr. Benke?  Not a Wisconsin boy, but Michigan is pretty close...
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 08, 2019, 12:18:20 AM
Tonight, Clemson defeated Alabama 44-16 for the NCAA Football Championship.
They were led by a 19 yr old true college freshman quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
He passed for 347 yards and threw 3 TD passes.  He had a quarterback rating of
184.5 and was voted the MVP of the game.

One year ago he was a high school senior and now he is the first true freshman
quarterback since 1985 to be the quarterback of a national college football championship
team.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on January 08, 2019, 10:46:18 PM
Tonight, Clemson defeated Alabama 44-16 for the NCAA Football Championship.
They were led by a 19 yr old true college freshman quarterback Trevor Lawrence.
He passed for 347 yards and threw 3 TD passes.  He had a quarterback rating of
184.5 and was voted the MVP of the game.

One year ago he was a high school senior and now he is the first true freshman
quarterback since 1985 to be the quarterback of a national college football championship
team.

After the game Coach Swinney was asked to define what he teaches his players, which is JOY.  He answered, "to me it's simple - JOY means Jesus, Others and Yourself in that order."

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 08, 2019, 11:51:10 PM
The first time I heard the JOY formula for living was at an athletic banquet for little leaguers.
I was sitting at the head table next to Bill Madlock of the Chicago Cubs. He had won the NL
Batting title in 1975 (.354) and 1976 (.339)  He was the guest speaker.

He told this audience in 1977 what  the priorities are to have JOY in your life.

1. Jesus
2. Others
3. Yourself

Bill Madlock gave a great Christian witness.  He is a humble man and the audience listened to him.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: pr dtp on January 10, 2019, 01:34:29 AM
It also goes back to Gale Sayers, who was a VIking?Lion?  Some midwestern team....at any rate, in his book, I AM Third, he learned it during his time under coach halas and with Brian Piccolo.


Btw ... dont forget Brady and Belichick in the playoffs...  :-)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: mj4 on January 10, 2019, 04:16:45 AM
...Gale Sayers, who was a VIking?Lion?

Bear
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: MaddogLutheran on January 10, 2019, 09:10:45 AM
...Gale Sayers, who was a Viking?Lion?

Bear

Doink Doink!  ;)

#FlyEaglesFly
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: pr dtp on January 10, 2019, 01:42:59 PM
Oh a Minnesota Bear - like Brett Favre...    ::)


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: pr dtp on January 14, 2019, 12:15:32 AM
The Patriots had a nice game today...   8)
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: pr dtp on January 21, 2019, 01:46:10 AM
The Patriots had a nice game today...   8)

And they had another one today!

( I wonder if ESPN would please list them as underdogs again?  Please? )
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dan Fienen on January 20, 2020, 11:25:13 AM
(Bump) In case a football thread is desired.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: RDPreus on January 20, 2020, 11:29:57 AM
Go Packers!  Oh, did they lose?  To San Francisco?  Go Chiefs!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 20, 2020, 11:33:18 AM
It is interesting that 42 yr. old Tom Brady and 36 yr. old Aaron Rodgers will not be
playing in the Super Bowl this year.  The aging  process even catches up with good
NFL quarterbacks.   The QB of the KC Chiefs helped his team get to the Super Bowl
by throwing for 3 TD's and running for 1 TD.   Mahomes of the Chiefs demonstrates
it is helpful this time of year to have a mobile QB.who is only 24 years old
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Fcdwyn on January 20, 2020, 07:08:34 PM
The QB of the KC Chiefs helped his team get to the Super Bowl
by throwing for 3 TD's and running for 1 TD.   Mahomes of the Chiefs demonstrates
it is helpful this time of year to have a mobile QB.who is only 24 years old.

Still cannot get over the fact that the Bears drafted Trubisky when Mahomes was there for the taking! :o
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on January 20, 2020, 07:32:55 PM
No one has ever accused the Chicago Bears front office of making intelligent draft choices.
Trubisky had one year of college experience and nobody but the Bears actually wanted him.
The fact that Bears could have drafted Mahomes as the quarterback of the future will haunt
them forever.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 03, 2020, 04:36:16 PM
Kansas City Chiefs win a thrilling come from behind victory over the SF 49ers in Super Bowl 54.
24 year old QB Pat Mahomes was voted the Super Bowl MVP and the youngest player to do it.
He also was the MVP of this past NFL season and was the youngest player to do it.  Congrats
to him, the KC Chiefs, and Coach Andy Reid for bringing the Super Bowl Trophy back to the Midwest.

Pat's parents got divorced when he was in grade school.  So he lived with his mother who got
him involved in a local Christian parish.  He was baptized in the 7th grade and  has continued
to grow in his Christian faith. His mother has always reminded her son to thank God for all
his blessings.  Pat is a humble Christian and does not push his faith on others. 
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 04, 2021, 08:12:24 AM
This year's Super Bowl features K,C. Chiefs and Tampa Bay Bucs.

QB Pat Mahomes goes for his 2nd Super Bowl ring and QB  Tom Brady
goes for his 7th Super Bowl ring.  Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Benke on February 04, 2021, 08:34:32 AM
This year's Super Bowl features K,C. Chiefs and Tampa Bay Bucs.

QB Pat Mahomes goes for his 2nd Super Bowl ring and QB  Tom Brady
goes for his 7th Super Bowl ring.  Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

I would like the Packers to win.  Or, that not being a possibility, any team other than the one with Tom Brady on it.

Dave Benke
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Weedon on February 04, 2021, 08:41:57 AM
I’m rooting for the old fart, myself. Come on, Brady!!!
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 04, 2021, 08:58:03 AM
QB Tom Brady is 43 years old and QB Pat Mahomes is 25 years old.

The 18 year difference in their ages is noteworthy.   However, both
men will depend on their supporting casts to gain the victory.  Football
is still a team sport that depends on good defense and good offense.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peter_speckhard on February 04, 2021, 09:42:48 AM
This year's Super Bowl features K,C. Chiefs and Tampa Bay Bucs.

QB Pat Mahomes goes for his 2nd Super Bowl ring and QB  Tom Brady
goes for his 7th Super Bowl ring.  Who do you want to win the Super Bowl?

I would like the Packers to win.  Or, that not being a possibility, any team other than the one with Tom Brady on it.

Dave Benke
So shall it be written. So may it be done.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Rob Morris on February 04, 2021, 10:33:47 AM
I saw a great meme:

When I said I wanted everything to go back to normal, I didn't mean Tom Brady back in the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 04, 2021, 11:00:48 AM
As a University of Iowa Hawkeye football fan, i usually like to favor the team
with the most former Hawkeye players on it.  This year both the Chiefs and
the Bucs have 2 former Hawkeyes playing for them.  So for me it is as toss up
because 2 Hawkeyes will win a Super Bowl ring regardless of the final score.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Dave Likeness on February 07, 2021, 10:52:04 PM
At the age of 43, QB Tom Brady of the Tampa Bay Bucs won his 7th Superbowl ring.
In those 7 Superbowls, Brady won the MVP award 5 times.  Tonight, he threw 3 TD passes
and was named MVP. 


Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: peter_speckhard on February 07, 2021, 10:54:26 PM
At the age of 43, QB Tom Brady of the Tampa Bay Bucs won his 7th Superbowl ring.
In those 7 Superbowls, Brady won the MVP award 5 times.  Tonight, he threw 3 TD passes
and was named MVP.
Llllllaaaaaaammmmmeeee!!!!!!!

What a cruddy game.
Title: Re: A Frivolous Thread: Football (v. 2.0)
Post by: Jim Butler on February 08, 2021, 10:26:50 PM
At the age of 43, QB Tom Brady of the Tampa Bay Bucs won his 7th Superbowl ring.
In those 7 Superbowls, Brady won the MVP award 5 times.  Tonight, he threw 3 TD passes
and was named MVP.
Llllllaaaaaaammmmmeeee!!!!!!!

What a cruddy game.

The MVP was Todd Bowles. He exploited KC's make shift offensive line and made Mahomes pay for it. Bad day for KC to play a bad game, but such is life.