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Title: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 08, 2013, 08:35:00 AM
Since the thread that contained mutual technical support information on how to edit when using the quote function, or how to access the ignore function was shut down for the usual reason that threads get shut down, I thought a mutual technical support thread might be at least as appropriate as the ones running for football, baseball, and basketball. And so, I launch this in the hopes that if anyone has a question about some of the undocumented features of this forum, they can ask them here so that those who know can respond.


With any luck, this won't turn into the kind of thread that gets locked down.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 08, 2013, 09:52:16 AM
The search function has seems to be unreliable.

An example is a search of the word 'pixels'.  A search of 'pixels' with leaving the default '*' in the 'By User' box yielded 14 results.  Knowing that the post I was looking for was by a certain user, an additional search was processed using the users name (name with held to prevent accusations of personal attack) that yielded 3 results ... 2 of which were NOT included in the original search when the user name was NOT used.

What are the capabilities of the search ... and what expectations should users have of this function?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 08, 2013, 09:54:28 AM
agreed on that - I often find that no matter what parameters I insert, the search does not yield the result I expect. 

Then again, I am not on the forum enough to where I would immerse myself in the nuances of forum operations.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Evangel on April 08, 2013, 10:39:34 AM
This might help:

ALPB Custom Google Search Engine (http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=015968361700608751486:pb_r4xusyuu)
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 08, 2013, 12:03:50 PM
This might help:

ALPB Custom Google Search Engine (http://www.google.com/cse/home?cx=015968361700608751486:pb_r4xusyuu)
It only produced 2 results for 'pixels' ... less than the 14 for the regular search and not one of the results produced when specifying a User's name in search criteria. :( :(
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 08, 2013, 03:33:46 PM
Here is a post from one of the closed threads about editing quotes. I've added more information to it. This is just an example I plucked from another thread, the first one I stumbled on with multiple posts. Please, I beg everyone, this is just an example. I'm not pointing fingers or cursors at any individual. This is just one I stumbled across. Some names have been changed to avoid seeing this thread degenerate and get shut down.

I changed the square brackets "[" to curly brackets "{" so that you'd see what shows up in the quote edit window. They are all "nested". The lines with the command {quote, followed by code that provides a direct link to the original post starts the quote, and the command {/quote] turns it off. I've color coded these from the oldest to newest. 

{quote author=Dave Benke link=topic=4723.msg281990#msg281990 date=1355931705]
{quote author=Pr. Don Kirchner link=topic=4723.msg281979#msg281979 date=1355930869]
{quote author=Dave Benke link=topic=4723.msg281970#msg281970 date=1355930133]
{quote author=Pr. Don Kirchner link=topic=4723.msg281954#msg281954 date=1355927482]
{quote author=Mike Gehlhausen link=topic=4723.msg281952#msg281952 date=1355927107]
However, it is violating the First Commandment by bringing false gods before His Face.

{/quote]

Which Pr. Morris did not do.
{/quote]

Accusations that Pastor Morris sinned are over the line, and represent the "not possible at any time" framework of some in the LCMS.  Unfortunately, that framework begins with "you have sinned, repent now," rather than listening to the context, to the guidelines presented by the denomination, or to the totality of the situation at hand.  That to me is a shame.
{/quote]

And even condemnations from a brother who suggested that, since Pr. Morris knew it was a sin and acted anyway, there is not forgiveness!
{/quote]

I didn't know anyone suggested that, but that kind of infliction of condemnation represents to me the tremendous difficulty of conducting fruitful dialog in the Church, and in our LC-MS Koinonia Project.

Oscar' remarks and those awhile back by Scott are to me on point - the "perception risk" in terms of absolute non-participation as it becomes known seems as though it would be "they're so arrogant, they think they know all the answers."  But in the world as it is today the perception is "wow - they have a really tiny version of God, if their representatives don't even bother to show up when the world is in pain."  Who needs them, OR their version of God.

Dave Benke
{/quote]


This is the result of that code:

However, it is violating the First Commandment by bringing false gods before His Face.


Which Pr. Morris did not do.

Accusations that Pastor Morris sinned are over the line, and represent the "not possible at any time" framework of some in the LCMS.  Unfortunately, that framework begins with "you have sinned, repent now," rather than listening to the context, to the guidelines presented by the denomination, or to the totality of the situation at hand.  That to me is a shame.

And even condemnations from a brother who suggested that, since Pr. Morris knew it was a sin and acted anyway, there is not forgiveness!

I didn't know anyone suggested that, but that kind of infliction of condemnation represents to me the tremendous difficulty of conducting fruitful dialog in the Church, and in our LC-MS Koinonia Project.

Oscar' remarks and those awhile back by Scott are to me on point - the "perception risk" in terms of absolute non-participation as it becomes known seems as though it would be "they're so arrogant, they think they know all the answers."  But in the world as it is today the perception is "wow - they have a really tiny version of God, if their representatives don't even bother to show up when the world is in pain."  Who needs them, OR their version of God.

Dave Benke

The HTML code is really simple. Commands in [] brackets turn a function on, commands that star with [/ and end in ] toggle the command off. The syntax "quote author=Dave Benke link=topic=4723.msg281990#msg281990 date=1355931705"  generates the quote box header, which includes a clickable link to the original post. If you trim some of the words down, that clickable link is a direct line to the original source to see the entire post the quote came from. An unscrupulous person might change what he quoted whether he cuts and pastes words or uses the quote function. But that direct link to the source can be a helpful check and balance against such chicanery.

Basically, this shows that one trims blocks of quotes from the inside out in order to go from oldest to youngest.

Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 08, 2013, 03:42:40 PM
To access the "Ignore" function, these are the commands:

The sequence of commands are "Profile" (at the top of the screen), then pick "Account Settings". From that drop-down menu pick, "Buddies/Ignore List", and then select, "Edit Ignore List".
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 08, 2013, 03:44:02 PM
One way to load in an avatar picture.

To load an avatar, you have to simply link to a place where you have on stored. That's the simple part. The complicated part is getting your picture loaded into a storage space. A good place for that is photobucket.com. You can get an account there for free, linked to your Facebook or Twitter account, or just based on your e-mail address. (I recommend the latter). Start an account, and then you can load pictures in there. One you load one, you can click on it and get a list of URL addresses. Load one of them into the avatar link spot in here to have your avatar appear. Please note, the image needs to be cropped to square, or it will appear distorted in the avatar box. There are a lot of steps in the process, but each step is fairly easy and intuitive.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 08, 2013, 03:54:54 PM
An unscrupulous person might change what he quoted whether he cuts and pastes words or uses the quote function. But that direct link to the source can be a helpful check and balance against such chicanery.
While chicanery may occur, the link enables a reader who desires a more complete context of the text being quoted to easily find that context ... especially as we are discouraging the use of deeply nested quotations.  As long as the links are available, the context can be easily found ... without time consuming scrolling up and down the page. 

If one right clicks on the link, they can open the link in a new tab or window ... thus preserving their place on the thread they are currently reading. Some use this method when responding using the quotation function ... right click on a post you may wish to respond to ... but keep reading down the thread ... if there a number of posts after the post you are inclined to comment on, you may find that someone else has already made your point (great minds think alike) or a subsequent response negates the point you thought you wanted to make.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on April 08, 2013, 04:10:08 PM

The HTML code is really simple. Commands in [] brackets turn a function on, commands that star with [/ and end in ] toggle the command off. The syntax "quote author=Dave Benke link=topic=4723.msg281990#msg281990 date=1355931705"  generates the quote box header, which includes a clickable link to the original post.

One gentle correction:  This forum uses Bulletin Board (BB) coding, not html. 

BB code is written with square brackets instead of the < > symbols.  The main advantage is that one does not have to cap shift in order to do BB coding.

Most, but not all BB codes are identical to their html counterparts.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: SmithL on April 09, 2013, 01:31:24 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on April 09, 2013, 02:12:24 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks

[ url=http://www.url.com]the page[ /url]

remove the space after the [
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 09, 2013, 08:21:04 AM
The tools on the edit screen help in adding in clickable links. If you highlight a word or phrase, then click the button with the icon of a globe and piece of paper, a dialog box opens. Paste a URL into that dialog box, and you have the correct syntax for an HREF link loaded automatically.



Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on April 09, 2013, 09:13:33 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks

What Pr. Tibbetts replied....on a closely related note be aware that there is no image posting permitted on this board, so the equivalent of HTML's "img src" is disabled.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 09, 2013, 09:29:11 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks

What Pr. Tibbetts replied....on a closely related note be aware that there is no image posting permitted on this board, so the equivalent of HTML's "img src" is disabled.


I've noticed that. I've also noticed that when I cut and paste an email that contains a picture of a signature, that signature does appear in the post, though no other images ever do.

Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 09, 2013, 09:56:16 AM
another problem here I've encountered is in loading an avatar (not that I need to embarrass myself or scare off people from the forum by posting one).  I've tried several times, unsuccessfully, to upload an avatar.  Apparently I do not have it in the proper format/size and it fails.  I've never felt the need to "figure out what I'm doing wrong," but perhaps someone here might know the issue.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: GalRev83 on April 09, 2013, 10:02:45 AM
another problem here I've encountered is in loading an avatar (not that I need to embarrass myself or scare off people from the forum by posting one).  I've tried several times, unsuccessfully, to upload an avatar.  Apparently I do not have it in the proper format/size and it fails.  I've never felt the need to "figure out what I'm doing wrong," but perhaps someone here might know the issue.

Same here, Jeff. I have tried resizing a picture using some of the avatar-generating sites, no luck. They always end up distorted or just won't post.

Donna
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: John Mundinger on April 09, 2013, 10:12:44 AM
another problem here I've encountered is in loading an avatar (not that I need to embarrass myself or scare off people from the forum by posting one).  I've tried several times, unsuccessfully, to upload an avatar.  Apparently I do not have it in the proper format/size and it fails.  I've never felt the need to "figure out what I'm doing wrong," but perhaps someone here might know the issue.

Same here, Jeff. I have tried resizing a picture using some of the avatar-generating sites, no luck. They always end up distorted or just won't post.

Donna

You might try cropping/resizing the photo you want to use before uploading it to the host's website.  Photofiltre is an easy to use photo editing software that is reasonably priced (as in free) and available for download if you do not already have a photo editor installed on your computer.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 09, 2013, 10:20:04 AM
The avatar field requires a square picture. If you use a rectangular picture, the system stretches it to fit the square format. The online cropping tools are one answer, but an easy method I've found is to just use Paint, the graphic utility that comes with Windows, and crop your picture to a square format. If you have an alternate graphic editor, great, but Paint is adequate. Around 96 dpi, that's adequate resolution for any picture on the web. And 2" by 2" is plenty large enough.


Also, there's no real rule about Avatars. One need not use a headshot portrait. You can use any sort of picture or icon that is not too detailed to make out in a little postage stamp image.

Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 09, 2013, 10:51:40 AM
all good advice, thanks.  Also all tried already.  Since I feel no real compulsion to cause all of you harm by posting a photo of me, its not a problem to solve that is very high on my priority list  ;D
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 09, 2013, 11:10:25 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks
Here is an example I shared with another forum participant ...

Hallelujah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84-59pc7Tc)   Note: Click on quote to see the HTML code.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 09, 2013, 11:14:52 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks
Here is an example I shared with another forum participant ...

Hallelujah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84-59pc7Tc)   Note: Click on quote to see the HTML code.

our just place your cursor on it and look at the link displayed in the lower left hand corner of your browser window
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 09, 2013, 11:23:37 AM
What's the BB equivalent to HTML's "A HREF" code?
Thanks
Here is an example I shared with another forum participant ...

Hallelujah (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W84-59pc7Tc)   Note: Click on quote to see the HTML code.
our just place your cursor on it and look at the link displayed in the lower left hand corner of your browser window
That displays the URL linked to only ... while clicking quote will display the code that created the the "Hallelujah" link.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: SmithL on April 09, 2013, 12:12:51 PM
Thanks everyone.  I knew how to post links but not how to change the text.

As far as Avatars, I never had luck uploading pictures but succeeded when I linked to an online picture.  I used to be linked to my Facebook picture, but that quit working.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 09, 2013, 12:13:04 PM

That displays the URL linked to only ... while clicking quote will display the code that created the the "Hallelujah" link.

Sorry - I misunderstood what you were getting at - its' a slow morning for me...
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 09, 2013, 12:18:24 PM
When replying to a private forum message there is an option to check "Save a copy in my outbox".  I see how to read incoming messages and how to create and send outgoing messages.

Where is the outbox and how can one review its contents?
Title: Re: Forum Outbox
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on April 09, 2013, 02:21:31 PM

Where is the outbox and how can one review its contents?

If you are looking at your inbox, along the left side of the screen will be a MESSAGES menu. Your "outbox" will be found by clicking SENT MESSAGES.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Richard Johnson on April 09, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Have to admit, this is one of the most useful and edifying threads in a long while . . . though I don't like the reminder of how very little I know about computers.  :o
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 09, 2013, 02:48:49 PM
Have to admit, this is one of the most useful and edifying threads in a long while . . . though I don't like the reminder of how very little I know about computers.  :o
You must be old enough not to have kids/nieces/nephews in the house and young enough not to have grand kids/nieces/nephews around ... it is getting to the point that I e-mail (nope .. no text yet) nephews (sorry, no geeky nieces) when I have a problem ... it is rather sobering for a ^&^ something year old to ask for assistance from a jr high nephew. ???
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Richard Johnson on April 09, 2013, 03:11:57 PM
You're right about the age, but I save up my questions for when I see my kids. Actually they help me more with my iPhone and iPad than my computer.

But I do text. Just not with my thumbs.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 09, 2013, 03:17:30 PM
Having just goofed using the quote function  :-[ :-[, and hopefully correcting it, how is the best way to handle this?

I have use the message function to notify a couple of forum participants when this has occurred in the past ... once involving one of my posts ... the other not.

I found my error as a result of a public post by one of the participants who I had improperly attributed material to.

Of these two methods of notification, which is preferable?  It is understandable that the public post may "clear" a person's name a bit quicker, it also may contribute to confusion when the original post is corrected ... but the notifying post may not be corrected.

Not pointing fingers or complaining, just interested in the thoughts of others. :)
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on April 09, 2013, 06:24:04 PM
Have to admit, this is one of the most useful and edifying threads in a long while . . . though I don't like the reminder of how very little I know about computers.  :o


God's Word comes as Gospel and Law - sometimes at the same time!
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 11, 2013, 01:08:27 AM
I should add this to the tech support thread. Your user profile includes setting your time zone. A more reliable way to refer to any post in a thread is by the post number.
« Reply #198 on: Today at 05:24:49 PM »
While by far the best reference to a post is the link created by the quote feature. ;)  If for various reasons the quote function is NOT used, use of BOTH reply number and date/time is best.  The reply number becomes unreliable if a post upstream is deleted as a deletion renumbers ALL posts down stream.  Providing the actual date ... rather than using "TODAY" or "YESTERDAY" is highly encouraged as these designations change as the clock strikes midnight depending how your profile is set.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: NCLutheran on April 11, 2013, 10:25:34 AM
A different way to link to a post permanently is the following:

At the very top of the post, there will be a sentence saying "Re: The Title of the Thread."

Right click on this sentence, and click "Copy Link Location"/"Copy Link Address" (for Firefox and Chrome), or the similar command in your browser.

Then simply paste into your post. The forum software will link automatically with just the URL. No worries about time zone or date.

So if I wanted to link to Mr. Erdner's original post, for example, this is how it would look in my post:

http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4858.msg296832#msg296832


If you want to shorten the link, use the URL code instructions that Pastor Tibbetts posted here (http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4858.msg297000#msg297000).
The URL button is under the italics button on the reply screen.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 12, 2013, 03:18:02 PM
While this may be a Windows XP issue ... I view the forum on multiple computers ... and this computer when using the "shift+alt+p to preview" a forum post, my windows media player in invoked ... while another computer with XP properly displays a preview of the forum post.  Any ideas?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Chuck on April 12, 2013, 03:45:46 PM
While this may be a Windows XP issue ... I view the forum on multiple computers ... and this computer when using the "shift+alt+p to preview" a forum post, my windows media player in invoked ... while another computer with XP properly displays a preview of the forum post.  Any ideas?


1. Get rid of XP
or
2. Fix the shortcut in Media Player
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 12, 2013, 04:39:03 PM
2. Fix the shortcut in Media Player
Please enlighten me ... the machine belongs to someone else ... I may be able to change ... hopefully NOT mess up. ;)
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Chuck on April 12, 2013, 05:48:53 PM
2. Fix the shortcut in Media Player
Please enlighten me ... the machine belongs to someone else ... I may be able to change ... hopefully NOT mess up. ;)


Find the shortcut to Media Player (on the desktop or the start menu)
right click on the shortcut
choose Properties
on the General tab, delete or change the shortcut


Almost impossible to mess up.  :D
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 12, 2013, 07:36:07 PM
2. Fix the shortcut in Media Player
Please enlighten me ... the machine belongs to someone else ... I may be able to change ... hopefully NOT mess up. ;)
Find the shortcut to Media Player (on the desktop or the start menu)
right click on the shortcut
choose Properties
on the General tab, delete or change the shortcut

Almost impossible to mess up.  :D
Thanks ... only problem ... I deleted shortcut from the desk top AND programs menu ... and the "shift+alt+p" still brings up the media player ... should I have to reboot?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Chuck on April 13, 2013, 01:03:50 AM
Thanks ... only problem ... I deleted shortcut from the desk top AND programs menu ... and the "shift+alt+p" still brings up the media player ... should I have to reboot?
Well, a bit more difficult, but not impossible.

Try this first...

Click on the start button and select Search from the right hand panel.
Search for Windows Media Player and that may show a shortcut.
Right click on that and proceed as before.

If that doesn't work let me know.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Chuck on April 13, 2013, 01:10:12 AM

Thanks ... only problem ... I deleted shortcut from the desk top AND programs menu ... and the "shift+alt+p" still brings up the media player ... should I have to reboot?

One other thing...the shortcut may still be buried on the start menu. Try:

Start > All Programs > Accessories > Entertainment

and see if it is there.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 13, 2013, 05:49:01 PM
Thanks ... only problem ... I deleted shortcut from the desk top AND programs menu ... and the "shift+alt+p" still brings up the media player ... should I have to reboot?
One other thing...the shortcut may still be buried on the start menu. Try:

Start > All Programs > Accessories > Entertainment

and see if it is there.
Nothing there but volume and sound recorder.

Ran Search on Windows Media Player.lnk ... found one buried in WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Start Menu\Programs and deleted it. (It along with a total of three Windows Media Player.lnk shortcuts reside in the recycle bin.  shift+alt+p still opens Windows Media Player ... and search for Windows Media Player.lnk does NOT locate any more shortcuts ... any chance that one is hidden somewhere ... or should the recycle bin be emptied?

Thanks for your patience and help!
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Chuck on April 13, 2013, 06:50:02 PM

Nothing there but volume and sound recorder.

Ran Search on Windows Media Player.lnk ... found one buried in WINDOWS\system32\config\systemprofile\Start Menu\Programs and deleted it. (It along with a total of three Windows Media Player.lnk shortcuts reside in the recycle bin.  shift+alt+p still opens Windows Media Player ... and search for Windows Media Player.lnk does NOT locate any more shortcuts ... any chance that one is hidden somewhere ... or should the recycle bin be emptied?

Thanks for your patience and help!

Very strange. Well, the last resort...

Find the program file.
(Usually C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player)

Right click and select properties.

If there is no shortcut key listed there, you are stuck.

It is weird because Ctrl+Alt+p is not a standard Windows XP shortcut which means someone at sometime chose that.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on April 13, 2013, 10:01:51 PM
Why bother with any sort of crtl-shift keystrokes to preview when there's a perfectly easy-to-click button marked "Preview" right next to the one marked "Post"?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 13, 2013, 10:23:38 PM
Why bother with any sort of crtl-shift keystrokes to preview when there's a perfectly easy-to-click button marked "Preview" right next to the one marked "Post"?
Because sometimes a key stroke is quicker than mousing around. ;)
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 15, 2013, 03:32:11 PM
Very strange. Well, the last resort...

Find the program file.
(Usually C:\Program Files\Windows Media Player)

Right click and select properties.

If there is no shortcut key listed there, you are stuck.

It is weird because Ctrl+Alt+p is not a standard Windows XP shortcut which means someone at sometime chose that.
Again thanks for your help.

I ran a search for *player* ... attempting to find not only the shortcuts but the executable as well.  I found wmplayer.exe twice in addition to the 3 shortcuts already in the recycle bin.

Any further ideas?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 16, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
Notices of personal messages are sent using a certain e-mail address.  Is the e-mail address simply used ... or are the contents of the messages shared with the owner of this e-mail address?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 19, 2013, 10:45:08 PM
How can suggestions for enhancements to the forum software be made? Does Simple Machines have a procedure for this?
Title: Re: Simple Machines Forum
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on April 21, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
How can suggestions for enhancements to the forum software be made? Does Simple Machines have a procedure for this?


Simple Machines Forum is at http://www.simplemachines.org
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 22, 2013, 07:46:05 PM
Resident software tester here ... Noting that Pr. Austin's smiley face avatar is nit displayed when viewing the forum on an I-pad.  Pr. Benke's avatar has been missing for a while when viewing the forum using Fire Fox ... A blank avatar box outline is displayed when using an I-pad.

What is the proper way to report this ... To forum tech support or to Simple Machines?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on April 22, 2013, 08:11:11 PM
What is the big need to see poster's avatars when you are surfing on your iPad? 
Just curious, lots of internet features don't work on iPads...


Yes, the edit/delete feature on facebook that i have encouraged people to use, doesn't seem to be available on the iPad. Easy to use on my computers, though.


Most of the time when reading forum on the iPad, I zoom in so I don't even see the avatar; but I can read the print more easily.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 22, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
What is the big need to see poster's avatars when you are surfing on your iPad? 
Just curious, lots of internet features don't work on iPads..
The issue is the inconsistency of the appearance of the avatars.  Personally I see no need for them ... but if the software developers include a feature, it should function in the manner that the software developers designed the software to work ... in addition, the inconsistency of operation could be an indication of a bigger and real problem.  Long and short, it is or should be a matter of pride of ownership. :)
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: LutherMan on April 22, 2013, 10:59:26 PM
I think you need to take your complaint to Apple, not the forum...
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 22, 2013, 11:11:32 PM
You really do have to zoom in on the iPad to read the forum.  Unless of course you are a young'un...
Flattery will get you nowhere  ;D ... but using the i-pad in landscape mode seems to serve this not so young'un rather well.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 23, 2013, 11:13:53 PM
I think you need to take your complaint to Apple, not the forum...
If the avatar problem were across the board, Apple would be the likely problem ... given that the problem is isolated, the problem is more likely in the forum software.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on April 24, 2013, 02:08:31 PM
I think you need to take your complaint to Apple, not the forum...

You are correct in that I would surmise the problem to be with Safari browser on iPhone/iPod/iPad, not with the forum's mobile capabilities.

and then I notice Jay's post immediately above.  He also makes a good point, if its isolated.  I don't tend to browse the forum on my iPad much so I don't notice any issue, or how widespread it is.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 24, 2013, 02:38:11 PM
You are correct in that I would surmise the problem to be with Safari browser on iPhone/iPod/iPad, not with the forum's mobile capabilities.
I'll have to try the Safari Browser ... since the iPad belongs to someone else, when I surf, I use the Chrome browser so my surfing does not conflict with the owners browsing on Safari.  In addition, I may need to update the Chrome browser ... early comments on the most recent release were not too favorable from the stability standpoint, so it has not been updated.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 24, 2013, 09:09:15 PM
You are correct in that I would surmise the problem to be with Safari browser on iPhone/iPod/iPad, not with the forum's mobile capabilities.
I'll have to try the Safari Browser ... since the iPad belongs to someone else, when I surf, I use the Chrome browser so my surfing does not conflict with the owners browsing on Safari.  In addition, I may need to update the Chrome browser ... early comments on the most recent release were not too favorable from the stability standpoint, so it has not been updated.
Same problem with the same two forum member's avatars when using Safari. Either both Chrome and Safari have the same unique problem ... or the problem is with the forum software.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Dave Benke on April 25, 2013, 08:05:24 AM
This is what currently shows up when I browse online for alpb:

Alpb.org www.alpb.org/

Find Real Estate, Apartment For Rent and more at Alpb.org. Get the best of Personals or Cheap Airfare, browse our section on Vacation Packages or learn about ...


Having spent sufficient time here speaking about matters of the Missouri Synod, my wife and I have been convinced to retire to places where the Missouri Synod is still the center of the universe.  We'd like to arrange a vacation package to All the Small Towns The Midwest Has to Offer, but haven't found that here at alpb yet, as promised when we hit the browse button. 

Can anyone help us find the Vacation Package/Real Estate section?
We're thinking of somewhere in the Six Corners area of Western Minnesota, North Dakota/South Dakota, Eastern Nebraska/Iowa and whatever the next state nearest to those is (Maine?).  We're from New York City, so geography is not our best subject.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on April 27, 2013, 03:28:10 PM
I was told by a nephew that the problem I have with the use of the shift+alt+p to preview may be due to the fact the HP computers ...specifically this Pavilion model may have specially defined keystrokes as a part of the HP added software. Unfortunately he avoids HP equipment for this reason. :(

Is anyone familiar enough with the HP to be able to suggest how to "undefine" the shift+alt+p keystrokes from opening Windows Media Player?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 01, 2013, 08:42:44 PM
It is possible to print the entire contents of a thread ... is it possible to print the entirety of ones posting history?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 10, 2013, 12:43:06 AM
Resident software tester here ... Noting that Pr. Austin's smiley face avatar is nit displayed when viewing the forum on an I-pad.  Pr. Benke's avatar has been missing for a while when viewing the forum using Fire Fox ... A blank avatar box outline is displayed when using an I-pad.

What is the proper way to report this ... To forum tech support or to Simple Machines?
Rev. Austin's new mug shot avatar is rendered on the i-pad ... at least using Chrome  ... not the latest version as the latest version still has problems ... at least according to user reviews.   :(
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 15, 2013, 11:47:20 AM
With in the past ten days there his been a disturbing increase of erroneous quotes posted to this forum ... all of which have been posted WITHOUT the benefit of the quotation function.  The following are representative of this growing forum problem
Quote from: Rev. Charles M. Austin in a locked thread
Jay. has called another participant here "condescending and impudent" (even though he says he is "ignoring" that participant's remarks). Jay.'s insults stand.  Link to Locked Thread (http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4888.msg300315#msg300315)
Rev Austin was promptly notified of his error less than an hour later
Quote from: Pastor Ted Crandall in a locked thread
No, that was not Jay: Link to Locked Thread (http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4888.msg300316#msg300316)
followed by the source of the misquoted words.  Later the same day ...  the error was addressed yet again
Quote from: Jay. in a locked thread
Still awaiting an apology and full retraction of your blatant error!

Maybe you will now try to use the quote function which would have prevented this error! Link to Locked Thread (http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4888.msg300363#msg300363)
To date, the source of this erroneous post has acknowledged his error in the following manner
Quote from: Rev. Charles M. Austin in a locked thread
If those words were not directly used by Jay., ... then perhaps they were mis-attributed. ... I don't care. ... I will not apologize for that, for I believe it to be true.
A few days later a second misquote was brought to the attention of the forum ... made in spite of the "make over" that included a different avatar ... and again without the use of the quote function
Charles,

       Please take another look at the post (http://www.alpb.org/forum/index.php?topic=4690.msg301203#msg301203) you are responding to in your post above.  It was not posted by Pastor Weedon.

              Mel Harris
Meekly the following response followed within the half hour
Thank you. I have fixed my post and hope that it did not embarrass Pastor Weedon. My questions, then, were to NCLutheran, the one who bears a most dignified surname.
Nonethless, cheers,
CMA
which included an edit of the errant post indicating that the humble correspondent is capable of correcting his errors IF HE WANTS TO.
Yet again an errant quote ... again REFUSING to use the quote function .
Pastor Engebretson may not want my comments attributed to him.  ;)
followed by a defiant non apologetically response
Sorry, Pastor Kirchner, sometimes all you LCMSers look alike.  ;D

Not only can the humble correspondent NOT quote forum participants correctly, he miss attributes quotes of publications due to his refusal to avail himself of the quotation function
That answer is not specific enough, Pastor Engebretson. The Lutheran Witness article and the Concordia professor say that the LCMS "view" is specifically a young (several thousand years) earth view of creation. Is that true or is it not true, and if true, where has the LCMS said its official "view" is that the earth was created several thousand years ago?

BTW, the referenced article was not in the Lutheran Witness, but rather in the Reporter, the May issue.  The gentleman asserting the Synod's official position defending a young earth was the Rev. Dr. Joel Heck, theology professor at Concordia University - Texas.
 

Note that the word "APOLOGIZE" is never used without "not" preceding it.

Why all this on the "The ALPB Mutual technical support thread"?  Since this has become such a repetitive problem,  perhaps a post citing an error should address nothing other than the error thus enabling the moderators to easily remove the error in the event that this pattern of failure to acknowledge and correct erroneous posts continues.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Charles_Austin on May 15, 2013, 11:55:19 AM
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Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on May 17, 2013, 01:51:09 PM
so once again, a failed attempt at an avatar upload, with this error message:

The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved.

I've tried resizing the image, squaring the image, using different formats, all with no success.

What is the secret to getting a successful avatar upload?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on May 17, 2013, 04:25:55 PM
so once again, a failed attempt at an avatar upload, with this error message:

The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved.

I've tried resizing the image, squaring the image, using different formats, all with no success.

What is the secret to getting a successful avatar upload?


You cannot upload an avatar in here. What you can do is upload it to some sort of storage location, such as Photo Bucket, and then link to the URL for your stored image. As I understand it, the moderators have the option of allowing or not allowing graphics in the forum. They've chosen "no graphics". That's also why we cannot load graphics into posts. But even though they picked that option, Simple Machines still provides the tools on their menus.



Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: John Mundinger on May 17, 2013, 04:52:42 PM
George - I tried that and the software said that the upload was successful.  But, the picture that I used doesn't show up.


Interesting!  Using photobucket as a web host for the picture worked.  Using ImageShack to host the same photo didn't.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 23, 2013, 12:13:00 AM
George - I tried that and the software said that the upload was successful.  But, the picture that I used doesn't show up.

Interesting!  Using photobucket as a web host for the picture worked.  Using ImageShack to host the same photo didn't.
Has anyone tried using SkyDrive, Google Drive, or similar online storage services to store the avatar?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Dadoo on May 23, 2013, 08:31:30 AM
To be very honest, people: The avatars, since they load from a separate web site, tend to load very slowly. I have blocked them on the settings page to speed page loads in the forum pages. So, don't spend too much time finding spots to stash your avatars.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Charles_Austin on May 23, 2013, 08:45:24 AM
The pages load fine and fast for me; but on my hope computer I have to load them twice; the first click gets me a blank screen, then the next click gets the page; but it's fairly fast. This does not happen at the computer at my office all the time, but it happens some of the time.
It just means that I have to jump over an additional click-hurdle to get it. Good exercise for me, I guess.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 23, 2013, 02:45:42 PM
To be very honest, people: The avatars, since they load from a separate web site, tend to load very slowly. I have blocked them on the settings page to speed page loads in the forum pages. So, don't spend too much time finding spots to stash your avatars.
Agreed ... I doubt that I will ever use an avatar ... but thought the information may be helpful to those who do.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on May 23, 2013, 02:57:17 PM
I've tried a couple of different remote hosts for an avatar, providing the url for each, and I'm still not getting anything to run through.  Its a nice thought, but I seriously doubt I'll spend much more time on it.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Jay Michael on May 23, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
I frequently use the search function ... with limited success ... and normally restrict the search to the "Your Turn" category ... and have to change the search parameters each time I search ... Is there a way to save the search parameters?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on May 23, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
There should be no noticeable download lag for anyone who isn't stuck on a dial-up connection, so long as the avatar images are small images around 2" by 2", and no more dense than 96 DPI. Now, if anyone has a 10" x 10" picture at 300 dpi, then yes, that will be slow to download.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: SmithL on May 25, 2013, 01:11:56 AM
I used to link to my Facebook picture, but it just disappeared from ALPB one day.  I've got a web site I use for other purposes, but I uploaded my Avatar, just so I could link to it.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on May 25, 2013, 09:44:25 AM
Actually facebook was one of the remotely hosted pics I tried to link to, and each time I hit the "update" button, it would go right back to the selection of "no avatar." 

In the grand scheme, it doesn't cause me to lose sleep, since I'm convinced most here would use my avatar for rodent control anyhow, and rightly so... ;D
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on May 25, 2013, 01:49:08 PM
Facebook has adjusted their software to make using it as a photo storage facility impossible, except for viewing pictures through Facebook. The thing is, as long as there are services like Photobucket, where you can get a dozen accounts for a dime, with 10¢ change, why not just use Photobucket?

Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: LutherMan on November 23, 2013, 11:32:49 PM
How do I take Pr. Stoffregan off of ignore?  He is such a prolific poster that it is a pain for me to take the extra step to read his posts.  TIA...
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: George Erdner on November 24, 2013, 12:51:05 AM
How do I take Pr. Stoffregan off of ignore?  He is such a prolific poster that it is a pain for me to take the extra step to read his posts.  TIA...


Go into "Edit Buddies/Ignore", and when you get to your list of ignored participants, click the red X on the far right of his name.



Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Coach-Rev on November 24, 2013, 07:19:25 AM
Its under the "profile" tab, selecting the option "modify profile" and then down at the bottom. 

That's the hardest part IMO is finding the durn thing.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on March 09, 2020, 12:06:25 AM
Sunday, March 8, 2020 the ALPB Forum Online established a new Most Online Ever of 406 .... exceeding the former Most On Line Ever of 394 on November 2013.

I have always wondered what the topic(s) of discussion were in November 2013 that created the Most On Line Ever at that time.

In light of the multiple offline time the forum has experienced over the past year .. and because the number of guests has greatly increased from when I first began lurking a number of years ago, I have watched the Forum Stats over time. As recently as last Thursday there were 75 User Online Guests and 0 Users on line after midnight when I quit for the nigh. When I first began lurking, it was not unusual for me to quit a night few if any users or guests when I checked forum posts after midnight. Recently the number of guests online drastically exceeds the number of registered users online.

Let’s be CLEAR. The purpose of this post is NOT to discourage participation either by members or guests ... but to inquire if the new Most Online Ever number is a result of legitimate human participation ... or if this new Most Online Ever number is the result of electronic bots that could in the future deprive all of us of forum access.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: D. Engebretson on March 09, 2020, 09:10:48 AM
Let’s be CLEAR. The purpose of this post is NOT to discourage participation either by members or guests ... but to inquire if the new Most Online Ever number is a result of legitimate human participation ... or if this new Most Online Ever number is the result of electronic bots that could in the future deprive all of us of forum access.

How would these "electronic bots" end up depriving "all of us of forum access"?

And why would someone employ such devises to a forum like this with that intent?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on March 09, 2020, 09:41:20 AM
Let’s be CLEAR. The purpose of this post is NOT to discourage participation either by members or guests ... but to inquire if the new Most Online Ever number is a result of legitimate human participation ... or if this new Most Online Ever number is the result of electronic bots that could in the future deprive all of us of forum access.

How would these "electronic bots" end up depriving "all of us of forum access"?


All internet sites are subject to the limitations of their hosting web servers.

If the server becomes overloaded with "real" or electronic bot connections those attempting to connect will see an "unable to connect" error message.

Such failures can be deliberately induced by bad guys--yes, they do exist--seeking to bring down hosting servers through such means.

These are called "DNS attacks".
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Steven W Bohler on March 09, 2020, 09:53:45 AM
For me, connection to this site has been slower (on several devices -- work and home computers, iPads, and iPhone) than to other sites over the past couple of days. 
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on March 16, 2020, 10:47:28 AM
Sunday, March 8, 2020 the ALPB Forum Online established a new Most Online Ever of 406 .... exceeding the former Most On Line Ever of 394 on November 2013.
A new Most Online Ever of 455 was set at 5:06 am EST Saturday March 14.


While additional participants are always welcome on the ALPB Forum Online, this new Most Online Ever record was established before daybreak on a Saturday morning.


As mentioned previously,  legitimate human participation is welcomed and encouraged ... if this record number includes bots with the potential in bringing the forum online down, not so welcomed. :-\
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on May 20, 2020, 01:11:06 PM
Wow ... the number of guests has dropped to 21 ... perhaps the bots have moved on to anotheread site.   Hopefully our services interruptions are over.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on August 30, 2020, 10:12:07 PM
Not wishing to derail the thread containing Rev Morris following comments....

No worries. From my end, no idea why my smart phone changes the font size sometimes, then when I try to fix it, I end up shouting at everyone. Ah, well.
I’m relieved (though disappointed) to hear that other(s) fighting the font size problem. 

An earlier post today had the font issue ... finally I posted it to the forum .. and went back to edit out any bracketed control characters.

I have often wondered if some of the issue has to do with expanding/contracting the entry field while typing a post.   

Any others experienced the unwanted or involuntarily font size fluctuations?
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Dan Fienen on August 30, 2020, 10:17:10 PM
I do sometimes when posting using Microsoft Edge. MS Edge apparently does not work well with Java scripts. Copied text usually gets messed up.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: Rob Morris on August 30, 2020, 11:23:36 PM
I did have to zoom in on the text entry area while typing my post on my phone. That’s a solid theory.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on September 02, 2020, 03:18:38 PM
From another thread ... a comment that pertains to this thread ...


Sorry to keep snipping quotes out -- I fear I am creating walls of text that are easier digested if I pull out the preceding comments.

Mr Garner: Your strategic 'snips' are beneficial in many ways.  First, they leave a trail ... if a forum reader is interested in the 'snipped' material, the link easily enables them to find them.  I included the link to your words above ... despite the fact they are from another thread, the context of your comment above is easily available ... if I have miss used or misquoted the intent of your words, it is easily located ... please correct me if I am guilty of misrepresenting the intent of your above comment.

One would venture to encourage the 'snipping' as you have done.  It is always suspect then material is simply placed in quotation marks ... because it is difficult of ascertain whether a posters words are used in the manner the poster intended .. or worse actually deliberately snipped.

Second .. when viewing the forum on a small screen smart device, excessive nested blue boxes do become a bit unnerving.
Thank you for setting the fine example.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on October 04, 2020, 07:44:52 PM
If only there were an easy to use, click a single button, quote functionality built into the forum software...  ::) ::) ::)
Actually there is… Locate the post you wish to reply to…

The upper right hand corner of that post is the word Quote ...

It is an active link if you press Quote it takes that post and puts it in a response for y’all at the bottom of the page…

It’s probably best to hit the preview button which will take it up to the top of the page and give you the ability to do use various other quotation functions…

Again there are small buttons/icons allowing you to bowl underlined Italic strikethrough amongst other things.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on November 05, 2020, 12:40:32 AM
Take two ... Apparently an attempt to be helpful on the wrong thread is met with deletion ... Since this is a support thread hopefully this informative and helpful post is allowed…

Having done software support in a previous life… I resurrected this thread six months or so after joining the forum. Hopefully the following is helpful for future forum posts .... prompted by the following comment
Quote
Sorry I do not now how to direct readers to what I received from ...
In this particular case the link needed was a Facebook link ..

https://m.facebook.com/cmstl/posts/a-letter-from-senior-pastor-jeff-cloeterchurch-familywe-are-responding-daily-to-/3115279745162276/ (https://m.facebook.com/cmstl/posts/a-letter-from-senior-pastor-jeff-cloeterchurch-familywe-are-responding-daily-to-/3115279745162276/)

is simply copied from from the url field.

Facebook links can be tricky… Rightfully so, access is limited by passwords and friendship links, some Facebook links that were copied exactly cannot be shared. Personally, what I do is to copy the Facebook link… Either open a second browser… Not a new tab or new window of the same browser, but if I’m using Safari… I’ll open a Fire Fox browser … Paste the URL in and see if it works.

By doing this I am guaranteeing that no cookies or other information is shared from one tab to another in the same browser.
Title: Re: The ALPB Mutual technical support thread.
Post by: James J Eivan on November 10, 2020, 01:45:50 AM
Recently my Forum Home Page http://alpb.org/Forum/index.php  (http://alpb.org/Forum/index.php)lost some helpful links


Gone are ...


Hello <Name>
Show unread posts since last visit
Show replies to your posts
Current Date and Time


Any ideas why this helpful information/links have disappeared?  A review of the profile variables doesn’t seem to reveal and fields that could have been tampered with when my profile was hacked.


Any ideas are appreciated.