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Title: Easter Vigils
Post by: BrotherBoris on March 31, 2010, 01:12:47 PM
How widespread is the practice of having an Easter Vigil on Holy Saturday in the Lutheran Church?  Is this practice catching on? Or is it rare? Is it more popular in certain areas of the country than in others?

Over a decade ago I attended a fine Easter Vigil at Trinity Lutheran Church (ELCA) in Greenville, SC. It was very well put together, the music was top notch, the singing of the Exsulset was superb and it was quite effective at creating that special joy that only an Easter vigil can. However, for whatever reason, the practice did not take root there, and Trinity, insofar as I know, no longer celebrates the Easter Vigil.

Does the ELCA celebrate the Easter Vigil more often than the LCMS? Or is it about equal? What about the WELS and ELS? Have they taken to celebrating Easter Vigils too?

Any responses would be welcome.

Boris
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on March 31, 2010, 01:22:55 PM
I inherited a Saturday evening service at this Call. I thought it more appropriate to do the Easter Vigil on Holy Saturday, so we the first Easter Vigil last year. Doing it again this year.

One of the major adaptations is that our "paschal candle" is an oil-filled tube. Somewhat necessary in our summer heat -- so it will not be part of the procession from the fire outdoors to the dark sanctuary. I plan to light it with a candle that I'll be holding.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Charles_Austin on March 31, 2010, 01:26:46 PM
Easter Vigils are common out here in the wilds of New Jersey, and often several parishes will join together to celebrate one vigil.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: peter_speckhard on March 31, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
We started a Saturday evening Easter Vigil when we noticed waning interest in the sunrise service. We used to do three services on Easter Sunday, but the sunrise service, which back in the day would have been a biggie, had easily become the smallest of the three, while the other two were overflowing. So about four years ago we changed the sunrise service to a vigil service, but that didn't work because it was too unlike the other two services and thus hard to prepare for three consecutive services. So this will be our third time doing the Vigil on Saturday at 8:00 p.m.. It is still fairly small, probably fewer than 100, but this year we'll have the baptism of my son and another adult baptism of a new member. We do the whole thing, from the fire lit outside, the candle procession with individual candles lit from the Christ candle and so forth, but we reduce the number of OT readings. Those who come consider it one of the highlights of the year.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: peterm on March 31, 2010, 01:32:51 PM
My first parish had a strong tradition of doing an Easter vigil, which for a new pastor who grew up with strong Norwegian low church roots, was a meaningful and learning experience.  The practice of vigil was pretty standardl in that area of Upstate NY.  Many of those parishes were Augustana and ULCA in roots, so that may have had something to do with it.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on March 31, 2010, 01:56:21 PM
This is my 22nd Triduum in the Hanover Conference.  When I began, there was one congregation which held an Easter Vigil--a congregation which up until (then) ten years before had been in a shared ministry with mine.  So it was a natural for us to participate in their Vigil.  We still had a sunrise service in those days.

The Pastor of the former other church was eager to hand off the Vigl to me, and I the sunrise to him.  So for the next decade we hosted the Vigil while the other congregation hosted sunrise.  Eventually, when our participation in the sunrise tailed off we stopped "official" participation, although a few members still join in that service.

Through the years our Vigil has seen attendance of between 25 and 65% of Sunday average--granted, that is still much smaller than Easter Day.  In eight of the past ten years there have been Baptisms--last year had four, an all time high.

We begin outside with the new fire, the congregation lighting their tapers as we enter the Nave.  So the time of the liturgy varies; always after astronomical sunset, rounded up to the next quarter-hour so this year will be 7:45.

The Old Testament reading are reducted to four:  Genesis 1; Exodus 14; Isaiah 55; and Daniel 3.   During the Asperges we sing the Litany from Evening Prayer.  To allow maximum time for the transformation from purple to gold and bare to decorated we sing the four verses of All Glory be to God on High as the Gloria.   From that point onward the liturgy is virtually identical to that of the following day to make life simpler for Organist and choir.

My wife is the Choir Director, and every year makes bowls of about a pound of home made dark chocolate for the choir and other worship leaders.  Those who come to the Vigil can have their baskets that night.  We have nearly a full choir!   Shameless bribery, but it works.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Weedon on March 31, 2010, 02:06:23 PM
I have no way of knowing it's more common, but I know a number of LCMS parishes that celebrate the Vigil in my area of the country - including ours.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: edoughty on March 31, 2010, 02:08:13 PM
My home church in Illinois apparently has no tradition of Easter Vigil; odd, since it was fairly liturgical in other regards.  We did not do Easter Vigil at college but then again, we usually were on break anyway.

Saint Paul Reformation does not do Easter Vigil, but they do direct folks who wish to attend the Vigil to neighboring Redeemer On Dale:
http://www.redeemerstpaul.org/Events.htm

A local congregation renowned for its liturgy, Mount Olive, will absolutely, definitely, without any doubt do Easter Vigil.
http://www.mountolivechurch.org/HolyWeek-Triduum_Schedule.htm

My current congregation, happily, does celebrate the Vigil; less "high" than Mount Olive, but with at least the basic readings.  Every year something is a little different at ours.  One year they told the Stories of salvation via life-size puppets.  One year they set up a "campfire" in the chancel and a seminarian who had memorized the texts did storytelling.  This year we will celebrate at the Vigil by dancing around the fire, the font, and the altar.  But the liturgy at the heart of it all is constant.

I do think there is a bit of a revival of the Vigil, at least in these parts.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Michael_Rothaar on March 31, 2010, 02:08:29 PM
and Daniel 3.  

Gee, I've grown to hate that reading. Someday I'll get rebellious and replace it with Ezekiel even though it's "required." (I'll re-interpret the word "required" to mean only in cases where you don't want to sit still for seven or twelve Old Testament readings.) ;)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: edoughty on March 31, 2010, 02:12:30 PM
and Daniel 3.  

Gee, I've grown to hate that reading. Someday I'll get rebellious and replace it with Ezekiel even though it's "required." (I'll re-interpret the word "required" to mean only in cases where you don't want to sit still for seven or twelve Old Testament readings.) ;)

You say that now, but you know you'll miss the sound of the horn, flute, zither, lyre, harp, pipes and entire musical ensemble.  ;-)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Richard Johnson on March 31, 2010, 02:50:44 PM
and Daniel 3.  

Gee, I've grown to hate that reading. Someday I'll get rebellious and replace it with Ezekiel even though it's "required." (I'll re-interpret the word "required" to mean only in cases where you don't want to sit still for seven or twelve Old Testament readings.) ;)

Gosh, Michael, that's my very favorite reading of the entire year. I like the "holy humor," which, seems to me, strikes just the right note at the climax of the Easter Vigil.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on March 31, 2010, 02:56:25 PM
and Daniel 3.   

Gee, I've grown to hate that reading. Someday I'll get rebellious and replace it with Ezekiel even though it's "required." (I'll re-interpret the word "required" to mean only in cases where you don't want to sit still for seven or twelve Old Testament readings.) ;)

Gosh, Michael, that's my very favorite reading of the entire year. I like the "holy humor," which, seems to me, strikes just the right note at the climax of the Easter Vigil.

I usually at least crack a couple of smiles if not an outright guffaw or two as I hear that text!
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Kevin Palmer on March 31, 2010, 03:10:54 PM
My impression is that the Easter Vigil is probably a bit more common in the ELCA, but is gaining in popularity in the LCMS (we're always a little behind!).  Personally, having been baptized and confirmed in an LCMS congregation, I knew nothing of the Easter Vigil until I was a student at Valparaiso University.  As a pastor, I was only at my first parish for about 3 years, and never introduced it there, but I inherited a Vigil at my current call.  However, it wasn't done in its fullness.  This year, for the first time, I'll have the service start outside around a fire, from which the Paschal Candle will be lit, and then process into the church.  After the Service of Light, we'll do 4 readings from the O.T. (Creation, the Flood, Israel's Deliverance at the Red Sea, and the Fiery Furnace), followed by the baptismal festival in which this year 3 children and 1 adult will be baptized, and our adult catechumens will affirm their baptisms and be welcomed into fellowship.  After that is the proclamation of the Easter Gospel, and celebration of Holy Communion. 

I've come to truly love the Great Vigil...it's right up there with Christmas Eve and Good Friday as my favorite services of the year.   :)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Ken Kimball on March 31, 2010, 03:14:58 PM
We've done the Easter Vigil service here at Paint Creek for a dozen years running.  We do it at whichever congregation doesn't have the sunrise service.  Weather permitting we start with the fire outside in the parking lot (if we don't get some rain by Saturday we may be under a burning ban).  We do 7 readings.  No baptisms yet so it's a remembrance of Baptism at the conclusion of the service. 
Ken
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: JEdwards on March 31, 2010, 03:49:06 PM
This will be our 10th year of celebrating the Vigil.  We usually do about 7 of the OT readings, with many presented in a way to involve kids and maintain their attention.  In the past, we have used slides downloaded from NASA to show as Gen. 1 is read.  Gen 22 is presented in dramatic fashion (This year, I play Abraham and my son will be Isaac); a kids' choir sings "Dem Dry Bones" for Ezekiel 37.  I think the choir has sung "Come to the Water" for Isaiah 55, etc.  As the Exultet proclaims, "O night truly blessed..."

Jon
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Richard Johnson on March 31, 2010, 03:49:36 PM
We've had baptisms most years, but actually the couple of times we haven't, people have said, "I like that even better." (We do a renewal of baptismal vows; usually crowd is small enough that we can surround the font while doing it.)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Pilgrim on March 31, 2010, 04:03:06 PM
We've had and not had baptisms at the Vigil. Folks who've tried it invariably return, finding it speaking to them. I like it, don't have to worry about preaching...just let the great Biblical narrative carry the freight. We've generally grown in participation for several years...up close to 70 last year.

Pr. Tim Christ
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: BrotherBoris on March 31, 2010, 04:07:27 PM
I did a bit more web searching this afternoon and found out that a number of Lutheran churches in the Carolinas DO, in fact, celebrate the Easter Vigil. I found ELCA parishes in Arden, Hickory, Concord, and Charlotte, North Carolina that were celebrating it. I also discovered that three LCMS parishes are getting together in my hometown of Greenville, SC to celebrate it at the Lutheran Church of the Good Shepherd.

Apparently it is catching on down here.   :)

Boris
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Charles_Austin on March 31, 2010, 04:40:18 PM
One year, instead of reading the Genesis Creation, I did "The Creation" from James Weldon Johnson's collections of poem-sermons, "God's Trombones."
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on March 31, 2010, 05:04:18 PM
One year, instead of reading the Genesis Creation, I did "The Creation" from James Weldon Johnson's collections of poem-sermons, "God's Trombones."

If I had unlimited time, I would show the video of James Weldon Johnson's poem in lieu of the Genesis reading and the Veggie Tales "Shad, Rack, and Bennie" in lieu of Daniel.

Ducking to avoid  pelting by chocolate eggs.....
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Charles_Austin on March 31, 2010, 05:41:04 PM
The Veggie Tales Shad, Rack and Bennie!  Great idea!
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Kevin Palmer on March 31, 2010, 06:00:52 PM
A couple of years we have done the readings from Walt Wangerin's "The Book of God."  It does a nice job of putting the Biblical narratives in a fresh light.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Rev. Spaceman on March 31, 2010, 06:36:55 PM
On the plains of NW MN, Easter Vigils are not common.  But last year, I decided to introduce the practice.  It served a practical function.  We had a couple of seventh graders who hadn't been baptized.  They were a little reluctant to be baptized on Sunday morning.  I suggested an Easter Vigil as an alternative.  It worked.  We had a decent attendance, mostly due to the baptisms.  I'm trying it again this year, without baptisms, hoping that we'll get at least some folks to attend.

I use the four "required" readings and will do a reaffirmation of baptismal vows as well.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Michael Slusser on March 31, 2010, 06:38:39 PM
RC vigils don't mess with the readings as a rule, though once in Washington DC, in the Genesis reading, God was a woman speaking Spanish--"and God said..."

Peace,
Michael
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Weedon on March 31, 2010, 07:34:09 PM
Just speaking for myself, I could never imagine substituting something for one of the appointed readings; although I dearly love Brian Helge's intro to the Vigil in the LTP volume for Triduum - "it's old Entish night in the church."
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: J. Thomas Shelley on March 31, 2010, 07:45:09 PM
RC vigils don't mess with the readings as a rule, though once in Washington DC, in the Genesis reading, God was a woman speaking Spanish--"and God said..."

Peace,
Michael

Most of our best Lectors are women.  I always select one of them to be the Narrator for the Passion readings since there are so many male voices reading the other parts.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: FatherWilliam57 on March 31, 2010, 08:46:43 PM
My home congregation has been doing the Great Vigil of Easter for over 40 years, so I grew up with it.  I did it for 12 years in my first parish, and will be conducting my 8th in this place on Holy Saturday.  We do the whole shooting match (although we now only use 7 readings instead of 12).  As for the reading for Daniel 3, I always reserve that one for myself!  Crack up every year reading that puppy!  For me, it just wouldn't be the Vigil without it.  I especially like listening to my acolytes "go bump in the night" as they decorate the entire sanctuary for Easter during the singing of the Litany of the Saints.  (They also strip the altar on Maundy Thursday while I read Psalm 22.)  We practice for three hours on Saturday afternoon for the Vigil, going from bare altar to Easter splendor several times.  The new acolytes usually say, "Hey, this is easy."  Then one of the older acolytes will inform them that they will actually be doing this in the dark.  I love the look on their faces when so informed!  We average 30-60 here, depending on if their is a baptism or REmembrance of Baptism.

By the way, have any of you incorporated the Roman blessing of the baptismal water during your Vigil, chanted like the Exultet?  (Again, I grew up with it in my home parish.) 
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Weedon on March 31, 2010, 08:49:00 PM
Our vigil has the "great flood prayer" of Luther as the blessing of the water, if you will.  I actually chant this, and break it up after each sentence with "blessed are you, Lord our God" that the people repeat (copied from *This is the Night*).  It works very well.  And yes, I dip the paschal candle into the water three times during this wonderful prayer.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Dave Benke on March 31, 2010, 09:48:55 PM
The great flood prayer is included in full in the baptismal rite in This Far By Faith, Pr. W.  Great touch with dipping the paschal candle!

Dave Benke
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Heidi Kvanli on March 31, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
I've introduced the Easter Vigil at 3 of the 4 congregations I have served--in SE MN, in Lincoln, NE, and now in Sioux Falls, SD. I've adapted and shortened it, but still have the four main components: The Service of Light, The Service of Readings, The Service of Baptism (and renewal of Baptism), and The Service of Holy Communion. We typically have 75-100 in attendance. We also follow the Easter Vigil with a Prayer Vigil that lasts through the night until the Sunrise Service begins at 6:30. People or families sign up for a 1/2 hour time slot to come to the church and pray in the sanctuary.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: edoughty on April 01, 2010, 09:59:50 AM
My home congregation has been doing the Great Vigil of Easter for over 40 years, so I grew up with it.  I did it for 12 years in my first parish, and will be conducting my 8th in this place on Holy Saturday.  We do the whole shooting match (although we now only use 7 readings instead of 12).  As for the reading for Daniel 3, I always reserve that one for myself!  Crack up every year reading that puppy!  For me, it just wouldn't be the Vigil without it.  I especially like listening to my acolytes "go bump in the night" as they decorate the entire sanctuary for Easter during the singing of the Litany of the Saints.  (They also strip the altar on Maundy Thursday while I read Psalm 22.)  We practice for three hours on Saturday afternoon for the Vigil, going from bare altar to Easter splendor several times.  The new acolytes usually say, "Hey, this is easy."  Then one of the older acolytes will inform them that they will actually be doing this in the dark.  I love the look on their faces when so informed!  We average 30-60 here, depending on if their is a baptism or REmembrance of Baptism.

By the way, have any of you incorporated the Roman blessing of the baptismal water during your Vigil, chanted like the Exultet?  (Again, I grew up with it in my home parish.) 

We do not chant a blessing of baptismal water.  Though I think there *is* something spoken.  If it is not the Flood Prayer it is very similar.

We decorate the church after "Christ is risen!"-- once the Easter Proclamation is done (in three languages-- Greek, Latin, and English) we sing the Taize "Surrexit Dominus vere" (http://www.taize.fr/en_article498.html) in canon, over and over, while all members of the congregation who wish to go into the library (the room right next to our nave) and bring something back-- art, flowers, paraments, candles-- and decorate the church.  The song ends when everyone's back in their pew and the church is fully adorned for Easter.

Here is our sanctuary, after decoration:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erikmsp/2354408429/

Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: peterm on April 01, 2010, 11:43:28 AM
One year, instead of reading the Genesis Creation, I did "The Creation" from James Weldon Johnson's collections of poem-sermons, "God's Trombones."

If I had unlimited time, I would show the video of James Weldon Johnson's poem in lieu of the Genesis reading and the Veggie Tales "Shad, Rack, and Bennie" in lieu of Daniel.

Ducking to avoid  pelting by chocolate eggs.....

That would be great!
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: edoughty on April 01, 2010, 12:10:17 PM
One year, instead of reading the Genesis Creation, I did "The Creation" from James Weldon Johnson's collections of poem-sermons, "God's Trombones."

If I had unlimited time, I would show the video of James Weldon Johnson's poem in lieu of the Genesis reading and the Veggie Tales "Shad, Rack, and Bennie" in lieu of Daniel.

Ducking to avoid  pelting by chocolate eggs.....

That would be great!

What, pelting him with chocolate eggs?  I agree!  ;-)

Actually, while we don't change the readings, we have experimented with different translations.  This year we may be using "The Message" as a tool to help people -- whose minds may wander during the readings!-- hear them anew.  I like The Book Of God -- Wangerin is a great storyteller -- but I don't know that he has all the Vigil readings in there.  (Does he?  I don't have his book handy.)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Michael_Rothaar on April 01, 2010, 01:20:33 PM
My impression is that the Easter Vigil is probably a bit more common in the ELCA, but is gaining in popularity in the LCMS (we're always a little behind!).  Personally, having been baptized and confirmed in an LCMS congregation, I knew nothing of the Easter Vigil until I was a student at Valparaiso University. 

I don't have statistics, but apart from some "outliers," I think the Vigil was almost completely unknown and uncelebrated in the ALC and LCA prior to the 1978 publication of LBW. (I was one of the outliers, mostly because Gene Brand browbeat us with that "liturgical nexus" stuff in seminary.) I may be wrong, but I don't think even the Valpo Liturgical Institute was featuring it until well after that.

BTW: Ed, Richard and Thomas have changed my mind about the Daniel reading. I'll allow myself a snicker. Still not sure about the Veggie Tales version. Maybe next year.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Richard Johnson on April 01, 2010, 01:57:51 PM

BTW: Ed, Richard and Thomas have changed my mind about the Daniel reading. I'll allow myself a snicker. Still not sure about the Veggie Tales version. Maybe next year.

You've got to do more than snicker. The reader should make the voice of Nebuchadnezzer suitably egotistically wrathful. He or she should play on the horn, pipe, lyre, sequence, as well as the satrap, prefect, governer sequence, with recognition that it is written that way both to make a humorous point and to facilitate memorization, and so the sequences should be read almost in a sing-song, rote memorization kind of manner. It should, in short, be read as if to young children, who love not just the words but the tone.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Michael_Rothaar on April 01, 2010, 02:33:28 PM
to facilitate memorization,

Now you've lost me. Why on earth would I want to memorize this?

I have enough trouble with all the verses of "Down by the Bay." (I can only get as far as the whale with the polka-dot tail.)
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: loschwitz on April 01, 2010, 06:31:02 PM
The are a few congregations in major urban areas that have a champagne reception following the Vigil.  The idea is to extend the festive mood of the holy day.  Any Forum members keep a magnum or two on hand?  Needless to say the practice got its start with them fancy pants Episcopals.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: edoughty on April 01, 2010, 07:38:57 PM
No champagne here.  We have, upon occasion, used sweet wine for the festival Eucharist.  Sweet occasion = sweet wine (port, in this case).
Not doing it this year, though-- forgot to order the stuff.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Revbert on April 01, 2010, 09:30:52 PM
One parish near me (ELCA) does a champagne thing after Vigil. But then again, they do about a one-hour service at 8 PM that is, by all reports, pretty weak as Vigils go, so one probably needs the champagne to deal with the poor liturgy.... :(
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Richard Johnson on April 02, 2010, 01:22:18 AM
to facilitate memorization,

Now you've lost me. Why on earth would I want to memorize this?


I didn't mean for you to memorize it, though, to quote a great line I heard from an old Methodist bishop once, "There's no particular virtue in memorizing Scripture; but there's not particular virtue in not memorizing it, either."

What I meant was that this was a literary device for people memorizing stories in pre-literate societies, or societies where literacy was low. It's like with children: "I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll BLOW your house down!"
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Michael_Rothaar on April 02, 2010, 12:03:25 PM
to facilitate memorization,

Now you've lost me. Why on earth would I want to memorize this?


I didn't mean for you to memorize it, though, to quote a great line I heard from an old Methodist bishop once, "There's no particular virtue in memorizing Scripture; but there's not particular virtue in not memorizing it, either."

What I meant was that this was a literary device for people memorizing stories in pre-literate societies, or societies where literacy was low. It's like with children: "I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll BLOW your house down!"

I like that line from the Methodist bishop. One of my personal regrets from jr. high catechesis is that they made us memorize a lot of bible passages but didn't insist on the citation being part of it. That's meant a lot of stuff to hunt for through the years. Kind of like when I failed to memorize the article along with the noun when learning German.

And yes, I got the idea of the reading "to make an impression." My "snicker" line was because I'm going to be listening to this text. In fact, I usually try to read Scripture expressively, and, especially with the narrative texts, as I might "tell" them to my grandchildren. (This is more difficult, for example, with the book of Hebrews, except that Melchizedek is as fun to say as Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty.)

I also note that -- like me -- you seem to have time on your hands during the Triduum. Morning service done, all is in readiness for the next five. And I'm chatting on Lutheran Forum because cleaning my desk sounds like no fun at all.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Jeff-MN on April 02, 2010, 07:32:26 PM
Our congregation kinda-sorta has an Easter Vigil.  It consists of the Service of Light (Exsultet), the Service or Readings - several readings with Chanted responses to each (or at least most), the rememberance of Holy Baptism.  It concludes abruptly with the reading of the Easter Gospel.  BUT, no Mass is offered.   Pastor says maybe some year.  University Lutheran--LCMS, Mpls.
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Jeff-MN on April 03, 2010, 08:11:52 AM
Although there is no Eucharist offered, the Easter Vigil is done very well - very reverently.  Fr. Kind is an awsome liturgist.  Any of you Twin Citians would be most welcome.  Service begins quite early at 7:30 pm.  Begins outside with a procession into the church following the Service of Light outside.  (No champagne afterwards).
Title: Re: Easter Vigils
Post by: Charles_Austin on April 03, 2010, 09:10:23 AM
So you read the Easter Gospel and then stop?
No eucharist?