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Title: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Keith Falk on September 10, 2008, 02:10:51 AM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Keith Falk on September 10, 2008, 02:14:32 AM
Hopefully, everyone mentioned here will take it in the way it was written... just for fun.  2:00 AM, having trouble sleeping, and after reading thread after thread with the same folks responding in the same ways... I just couldn't help myself.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dadoo on September 10, 2008, 07:29:50 AM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.

You forgot to mention that Sc ott Y. is going to share the chapter on The Importance of Artificial Turf in CHristian Proclamation from his upcoming thesis
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Scott5 on September 10, 2008, 07:41:36 AM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.

You forgot to mention that Sc ott Y. is going to share the chapter on The Importance of Artificial Turf in CHristian Proclamation from his upcoming thesis

Well, I think that I would include the opposite.  You see, natural turf is what our Lord talks about in Scripture, emphasizing the ephemeral nature of life.  But it's not just that life is like a wisp of smoke that quickly passes, but so is our desire for God's presence among us, an ardent desire in combination with an equally ardent fear, the fear of a God who, when he reveals Himself, burns on the mountain such that any who touch it would die except for His chosen mediator.  This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..." and was pronounced at Sinai where the Jewish people desire the kiss, the Words, the Law that comes from the very mouth of God, but immediately afterwards plead for a mediator to intercede between them and the terrifying presence of the Lord.  This continues today as the words of the sages exchanged are recognized by God as being rightly uttered, even when in error, as truly encompassing the desire for the Lord's kiss.  Yet, alas, like the natural grass, the ardent desire continually does give way to fear and forgetfulness, and our comprehending the mystery of life with God -- nay, even more, our actually participating in life with God holistically, with everything we are and have been and will be -- fades as we go back to our mundane lives.  The grass does truly wither, and we are no more than grass before our Lord.

Artificial turf, on the other hand, is sheer blasphemy.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Keith Falk on September 10, 2008, 09:51:59 AM
You forgot to mention that Sc ott Y. is going to share the chapter on The Importance of Artificial Turf in CHristian Proclamation from his upcoming thesis

Feel free to add more - you and anyone else.  We have some very creative folks on this board - just see Sc ott Y's opening paragraph of his paper regarding artifical turf and grass.   ;D
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on September 10, 2008, 10:55:35 AM
This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..."
Of course somebody had to bring in sex.

Before too long, Hitler and the Nazis will show up, too.

We live in predictable times.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dadoo on September 10, 2008, 02:57:37 PM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.

You forgot to mention that Sc ott Y. is going to share the chapter on The Importance of Artificial Turf in CHristian Proclamation from his upcoming thesis

Well, I think that I would include the opposite.  You see, natural turf is what our Lord talks about in Scripture, emphasizing the ephemeral nature of life.  But it's not just that life is like a wisp of smoke that quickly passes, but so is our desire for God's presence among us, an ardent desire in combination with an equally ardent fear, the fear of a God who, when he reveals Himself, burns on the mountain such that any who touch it would die except for His chosen mediator.  This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..." and was pronounced at Sinai where the Jewish people desire the kiss, the Words, the Law that comes from the very mouth of God, but immediately afterwards plead for a mediator to intercede between them and the terrifying presence of the Lord.  This continues today as the words of the sages exchanged are recognized by God as being rightly uttered, even when in error, as truly encompassing the desire for the Lord's kiss.  Yet, alas, like the natural grass, the ardent desire continually does give way to fear and forgetfulness, and our comprehending the mystery of life with God -- nay, even more, our actually participating in life with God holistically, with everything we are and have been and will be -- fades as we go back to our mundane lives.  The grass does truly wither, and we are no more than grass before our Lord.

Artificial turf, on the other hand, is sheer blasphemy.

Hope this helps.

ROTFL  PIP   :D
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: MSchimmel on September 10, 2008, 03:47:54 PM
...

ROTFL  PIP   :D

TMI   :P
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: revjagow on September 11, 2008, 04:17:11 PM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.

ROTFLOL!!!!!

Oh, this definitely needs to go on page one too!!

Well done, Keith! 
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: pr dtp on June 20, 2009, 03:40:25 PM
My assertion:  Brett Favre plays quarterback.

10 posts from now, I fully expect the following to happen:

Brian S. will explain why Brett Favre does not, in fact, play quarterback, because if one were to examine the origins of the word "quarterback"...
Bsp. Benke will use a German word to describe a characteristic of Favre, while playfully tweaking swbohler by paranthetically including the English translation (just for him!)
Fill-In-The-Blank (could be any number of folks) will decry the fact that the ELCA supports the use of artifical turf (since playing on grass is harmful to the environment), because the ELCA should NOT talk about the environment
Erma W. will call everyone back to the original posting, "Brett Favre plays quarterback" with a well-measured thoughtful response, calling for calm and reason.
Charles A. will applaud Erma's sentiment, then unreasonably (though accurately) correct the spelling, grammar, and punctuation of Fill-In-The-Blank's post
Will W. will quote a Church Father who described the beauty of a perfectly thrown spiral on a cool autumn Monday evening on... a grass field.
George E. will wonder why the NFL has not started a mass-market media campaign to get more people to games.
Many will then proceed to argue that the best way to get people to games is through a personal invitation.
Keith F. will try to direct folks away from the endless back-and-forth argument of grass v. artifical turf (thread drift!  remember, this is about Brett Favre plays quarterback!) where all the posters respond in predictable, like-clockwwork ways.

And, of course...

Paul M. will inform us that CPH has a wonderful book about Brett Favre which is due out in October.

ROTFLOL!!!!!

Oh, this definitely needs to go on page one too!!

Well done, Keith! 

And since this topic has been dormant, and we are approaching the preseason - it is time to vomit it back up again.

I hope that Minnesota signs Favre, he gets into the superbowl, gets severe heartburn and AP runs for 375 yards and wins the MVP
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Erme Wolf on June 20, 2009, 08:41:54 PM
   The topic was Brett Favre plays quarterback, remember? 

    However, is a quarterback still a quarterback, even when he is not currently under contract and has indeed retired?  When he decides to come back, does he have to be reinstated as a quarterback, even take colloquy work in remedial quarterbacking under the training of the coaches of another team, in order to be recognized once again as a quarterback?  Or do we recognize "once a quarterback, always a quarterback?" 

    The Minnesota Vikings seem to think that this former quarterback, but not yet a Vikings quarterback, needs a trial period to determine if the essence of "quarterback" is still with Favre. 

   I expect jpetty and Brian S. to disagree with me. 

   Lou should be concerned that the "pigskin" is genuine, in order to support the hog futures market.

Erma+
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: edoughty on June 20, 2009, 09:10:58 PM
I believe Mr. Favre is not signed with any particular pro team.  So "plays" is only correct insofar as he either (a) returns to professional football, (b) practices for such, or (c) plays football in a non-pro capacity.

This is supported by my reading of the texts.  ;)

Erik

Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: George Erdner on June 20, 2009, 09:40:19 PM
Until recently, my only experience with marketing NFL teams was in Pittsburgh, where there is a waiting list of several decades for season tickets. Every Steeler home game has been a sell-out since the early 1970's. In most other cities, all home games are also sell-outs. Therefore, there is no need for the NFL to attempt to sell tickets to games, since there are only a limited number of teams who have extra tickets to sell.

Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Keith Falk on June 20, 2009, 10:10:44 PM
Until recently, my only experience with marketing NFL teams was in Pittsburgh, where there is a waiting list of several decades for season tickets. Every Steeler home game has been a sell-out since the early 1970's. In most other cities, all home games are also sell-outs. Therefore, there is no need for the NFL to attempt to sell tickets to games, since there are only a limited number of teams who have extra tickets to sell.



Now who is nitpicking?   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dan Fienen on June 20, 2009, 10:52:54 PM
This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..."
Of course somebody had to bring in sex.

Before too long, Hitler and the Nazis will show up, too.

We live in predictable times.

Well, of course, artificial turf was invented by the Nazis under Hitler's direct supervision.   

Dan
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: George Erdner on June 21, 2009, 12:27:06 AM
Until recently, my only experience with marketing NFL teams was in Pittsburgh, where there is a waiting list of several decades for season tickets. Every Steeler home game has been a sell-out since the early 1970's. In most other cities, all home games are also sell-outs. Therefore, there is no need for the NFL to attempt to sell tickets to games, since there are only a limited number of teams who have extra tickets to sell.



Now who is nitpicking?   ;D ;D

It's good mental practice for dealing with Charles and Brian.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: pr dtp on June 21, 2009, 09:16:41 AM
This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..."
Of course somebody had to bring in sex.

Before too long, Hitler and the Nazis will show up, too.

We live in predictable times.

Well, of course, artificial turf was invented by the Nazis under Hitler's direct supervision.   

Dan

There goes the German spirit again, trying to take credit for the best or worst in life.

Mussolini's scientists created astro-turf, which actually was pretty good - as Rommel noted in his field reports.  But the Nazi's, wanting to be true socialists, wanted "the people's turf" and did the same thing they did to ferrari's designs, creating the VW bug....

(it has also been rumored that Steven Jobs has done the same thing with the computer, putting out a cheap product, selling it for 5 times what it is worth, by creating a naive fanaticism about his product.  )

Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on June 21, 2009, 09:23:33 AM
(it has also been rumored that Steven Jobs has done the same thing with the computer, putting out a cheap product, selling it for 5 times what it is worth, by creating a naive fanaticism about his product.  )
Having been a PC user for about 25 years -- started with an IBM with two 5.25 floppies -- and just changed to Macs six months ago, sometimes fanaticism is based on facts and actual use rather than naivete and advertising hype. Of course it could also be the fact that Macs cost more so tp justify the extra spending, we feel that we have to say and believe that they are better.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Team Hesse on June 21, 2009, 09:35:44 AM
   Lou should be concerned that the "pigskin" is genuine, in order to support the hog futures market.
Erma+

Actually, I'm more concerned about how our supposed free will plays into this picture, or not.
Lou
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: LCMS87 on June 21, 2009, 12:37:24 PM
Reflecting on the events of the last year and a half, the evidence seems to point to Brett Favre exercising a free will. 

Of course the theological question is always whether free will can choose to do good or is bound always to select only among bad options.  I think many Wisconsin theologians would cite recent history as more evidence of the bondage of the will.     
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on June 21, 2009, 02:09:17 PM
   Lou should be concerned that the "pigskin" is genuine, in order to support the hog futures market.
Erma+

Actually, I'm more concerned about how our supposed free will plays into this picture, or not.
While I'd guess that hog farmers don't have as much leeway as those with cash crops (and their own storage buildings,) there is a bit of free will about when to sell the product; but little to no free will about the price.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: jpetty on June 21, 2009, 05:04:34 PM
   The topic was Brett Favre plays quarterback, remember? 

    However, is a quarterback still a quarterback, even when he is not currently under contract and has indeed retired?  When he decides to come back, does he have to be reinstated as a quarterback, even take colloquy work in remedial quarterbacking under the training of the coaches of another team, in order to be recognized once again as a quarterback?  Or do we recognize "once a quarterback, always a quarterback?" 

    The Minnesota Vikings seem to think that this former quarterback, but not yet a Vikings quarterback, needs a trial period to determine if the essence of "quarterback" is still with Favre. 

   I expect jpetty and Brian S. to disagree with me. 

   Lou should be concerned that the "pigskin" is genuine, in order to support the hog futures market.

Erma+

I do indeed disagree.  Brett Favre is not a quarterback.  He is a sinner, sinner, sinner.  Lose paragraphase of Dt 14:8:  "Don't even think of touching a dead pig (or pigskin)." 
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: hillwilliam on June 21, 2009, 05:34:59 PM
This, of course, is backed up by Jewish midrash in Song of Songs Rabba, where the first line of the Song begins "Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth..."
Of course somebody had to bring in sex.

Before too long, Hitler and the Nazis will show up, too.

We live in predictable times.

Well, of course, artificial turf was invented by the Nazis under Hitler's direct supervision.   

Dan

There goes the German spirit again, trying to take credit for the best or worst in life.

Mussolini's scientists created astro-turf, which actually was pretty good - as Rommel noted in his field reports.  But the Nazi's, wanting to be true socialists, wanted "the people's turf" and did the same thing they did to ferrari's designs, creating the VW bug....

(it has also been rumored that Steven Jobs has done the same thing with the computer, putting out a cheap product, selling it for 5 times what it is worth, by creating a naive fanaticism about his product.  )


As someone who has been involved in PC compatible hardware and software consulting since 1983 I would like to point to the communist/fascist plot represented by the vista operating system. After 36 years of being on the bleeding edge of PC software development I am tired of tricking computers into doing what I want them to do. So I purchased a iMac and have found that Steve Jobs and the Apple PR department didn't lie. They just work.

Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: PastorChick on June 21, 2009, 05:37:07 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Scott6 on June 21, 2009, 05:54:10 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.

Well, there you go again.  If Favre does do so, I'm sure it's because his conscience is bound.  After all, he's called into the office of quarterback, and in order to fulfill this calling he has to actually find a group of people who seek his particular giftings.  I would call upon you to respect the boundness of his conscience and relent from doing something that might actually injure his relation to football in general and his calling as a quarterback in particular via such condemnatory language.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Erme Wolf on June 21, 2009, 06:31:47 PM
    Scott, would restricting the office of quarterback to males be a non-negotiable for you?
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on June 21, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
    Scott, would restricting the office of quarterback to males be a non-negotiable for you?
Actually, I think that a quarter back or a half back or a full back of ribs usually come from castrated animals.

Have I changed topics?
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dave_Poedel on June 21, 2009, 07:37:49 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.

Well, there you go again.  If Favre does do so, I'm sure it's because his conscience is bound.  After all, he's called into the office of quarterback, and in order to fulfill this calling he has to actually find a group of people who seek his particular giftings.  I would call upon you to respect the boundness of his conscience and relent from doing something that might actually injure his relation to football in general and his calling as a quarterback in particular via such condemnatory language.

However bound or unbound his conscience may be, historical precedent and the reflex sinful nature of Wisconsin theologians, whether located in Wisconsin or in the diaspora, would suggest that it would be most prudent for said Favre, if someone else agrees that he can still fulfull the Office of Quarterback, to fulfill that Office in another Division than the NFC North, lest there be wailing and gnashing of teeth, and other sinful expressions of the Wisconsin temper (whether of Germanic, Scandinavian or Slavic, or African origin) over the presence of said Favre in anything other than Packer vestments.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: PastorChick on June 21, 2009, 07:42:41 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.

Well, there you go again.  If Favre does do so, I'm sure it's because his conscience is bound.  After all, he's called into the office of quarterback, and in order to fulfill this calling he has to actually find a group of people who seek his particular giftings.  I would call upon you to respect the boundness of his conscience and relent from doing something that might actually injure his relation to football in general and his calling as a quarterback in particular via such condemnatory language.

However bound or unbound his conscience may be, historical precedent and the reflex sinful nature of Wisconsin theologians, whether located in Wisconsin or in the diaspora, would suggest that it would be most prudent for said Favre, if someone else agrees that he can still fulfull the Office of Quarterback, to fulfill that Office in another Division than the NFC North, lest there be wailing and gnashing of teeth, and other sinful expressions of the Wisconsin temper (whether of Germanic, Scandinavian or Slavic, or African origin) over the presence of said Favre in anything other than Packer vestments.

Nah - he can wear other vestments.  ANYTHING but yellow and purple.

Dirty rotten traitor.

joelle
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dave_Poedel on June 21, 2009, 07:51:45 PM
Yeah, but as a Bear?  NO WAY....a Lion...even Favre's not THAT hungry (sorry Michiganders).....
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Scott6 on June 21, 2009, 08:00:01 PM
Scott, would restricting the office of quarterback to males be a non-negotiable for you?

Whether it's non-negotiable to me is of little moment.  The problem is that not even God Himself could contemplate anything different which is why He created the shoulder pads in their particular configuration.  And what God has brought together into that shape let not man put asunder.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Scott6 on June 21, 2009, 08:03:50 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.

Well, there you go again.  If Favre does do so, I'm sure it's because his conscience is bound.  After all, he's called into the office of quarterback, and in order to fulfill this calling he has to actually find a group of people who seek his particular giftings.  I would call upon you to respect the boundness of his conscience and relent from doing something that might actually injure his relation to football in general and his calling as a quarterback in particular via such condemnatory language.

However bound or unbound his conscience may be, historical precedent and the reflex sinful nature of Wisconsin theologians, whether located in Wisconsin or in the diaspora, would suggest that it would be most prudent for said Favre, if someone else agrees that he can still fulfull the Office of Quarterback, to fulfill that Office in another Division than the NFC North, lest there be wailing and gnashing of teeth, and other sinful expressions of the Wisconsin temper (whether of Germanic, Scandinavian or Slavic, or African origin) over the presence of said Favre in anything other than Packer vestments.

But this is precisely the problem.  Why should Favre exercise his calling in another jurisdiction?  Has he not played in the NFC North for many-a-year?  Is it not his conference?  Why should he have to leave his conference in order to follow the dictates of his conscience?  Rather, the conference itself should respect his desires and find a way to live together with him.  Let sinful murmurings be overcome, and a new level of joyful unity be attained.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Brian Stoffregen on June 21, 2009, 08:06:24 PM
Why should he have to leave his conference in order to follow the dictates of his conscience? 
The problem is that his "bound conscience" keeps changing so it appears not to be so bound. It was to retire. Then it was to play for the Jets. Then it was to retire. Now it's back to wanting to play again.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Scott6 on June 21, 2009, 08:14:12 PM
All I have to say is that if he plays QB for the VIkings he's a dirty rotten traitor.

Well, there you go again.  If Favre does do so, I'm sure it's because his conscience is bound.  After all, he's called into the office of quarterback, and in order to fulfill this calling he has to actually find a group of people who seek his particular giftings.  I would call upon you to respect the boundness of his conscience and relent from doing something that might actually injure his relation to football in general and his calling as a quarterback in particular via such condemnatory language.

However bound or unbound his conscience may be, historical precedent and the reflex sinful nature of Wisconsin theologians, whether located in Wisconsin or in the diaspora, would suggest that it would be most prudent for said Favre, if someone else agrees that he can still fulfull the Office of Quarterback, to fulfill that Office in another Division than the NFC North, lest there be wailing and gnashing of teeth, and other sinful expressions of the Wisconsin temper (whether of Germanic, Scandinavian or Slavic, or African origin) over the presence of said Favre in anything other than Packer vestments.

Nah - he can wear other vestments.  ANYTHING but yellow and purple.

Dirty rotten traitor.

joelle

Sigh.  That's your interpretation of the rules of etiquette in the NFC North.  Other people interpret it differently.  Since those rules cannot decide the matter, you'll just have to let go of your narrow view and open up your mind to the new thing that the spirit of football is now doing.  And how glorious it is -- having the former Packer star laying aside his enmity and joining the mighty Vikings, the lamb cuddling up next to the lion amid the sounds of cleats being beaten into aerotors.
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dave Benke on June 21, 2009, 08:41:27 PM
Favre is not and cannot be in this lifetime in fellowship with anyone from Green Bay, or who has been to Green Bay, or who can say Green Bay and mean it.  He broke that bond, and it is irreparable.  I know there are some who view me as lax on the issue of fellowship; however, there is no adiaphoron in football.  A rupture has taken place between Favre and Green Bay. 

There is, of course, a curse attached to it, and that will play out as time goes on.  Theology is a game - Green Bay football is life. 

Dave Benke
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: PastorChick on June 21, 2009, 10:00:01 PM
Favre is not and cannot be in this lifetime in fellowship with anyone from Green Bay, or who has been to Green Bay, or who can say Green Bay and mean it.  He broke that bond, and it is irreparable.  I know there are some who view me as lax on the issue of fellowship; however, there is no adiaphoron in football.  A rupture has taken place between Favre and Green Bay. 

There is, of course, a curse attached to it, and that will play out as time goes on.  Theology is a game - Green Bay football is life. 

Dave Benke

So let it be written.  So let it be done.

Dirty Rotten Traitor.

Joelle
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: pr dtp on June 21, 2009, 10:36:31 PM
Favre is not and cannot be in this lifetime in fellowship with anyone from Green Bay, or who has been to Green Bay, or who can say Green Bay and mean it.  He broke that bond, and it is irreparable.  I know there are some who view me as lax on the issue of fellowship; however, there is no adiaphoron in football.  A rupture has taken place between Favre and Green Bay. 

There is, of course, a curse attached to it, and that will play out as time goes on.  Theology is a game - Green Bay football is life. 

Dave Benke

Ahh - but if Farve wanted another ring, he would be better served as signing as Brady's back-up.

Though the idea of AP having a decent qb, so that he can run amock thorugh Lambrat field - sounds kinda cool.....

(knowing of course, that the Packers are the theological equivelant of the UCC)
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Dave_Poedel on June 21, 2009, 10:38:10 PM
Favre is not and cannot be in this lifetime in fellowship with anyone from Green Bay, or who has been to Green Bay, or who can say Green Bay and mean it.  He broke that bond, and it is irreparable.  I know there are some who view me as lax on the issue of fellowship; however, there is no adiaphoron in football.  A rupture has taken place between Favre and Green Bay. 

There is, of course, a curse attached to it, and that will play out as time goes on.  Theology is a game - Green Bay football is life. 

Dave Benke

So, now it is official: from the northern confines of the Atlantic to the expansive vistas of the Pacific, broken fellowship shall extend to the entire Conference, as all NFC Central teams are in a Conference Fellowship with one another for said former quarterback Favre!  

Amen and Amen!
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: Steven Tibbetts on June 22, 2009, 01:56:10 PM

Dirty Rotten Traitor.


In that case, it makes most sense that he sign with the St. Louis (gag) Rams.

Pax, Steven+
Ex-pat Californian
Committed to excellence
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: pr dtp on June 22, 2009, 02:28:35 PM

Dirty Rotten Traitor.


In that case, it makes most sense that he sign with the St. Louis (gag) Rams.

Pax, Steven+
Ex-pat Californian
Committed to excellence

Actually the Raid-duh's.

But is there that great a difference between the Raiduhs, the Lambs and the Pack'd it inners?
Title: Re: Brett Favre plays QB - a test
Post by: swbohler on June 22, 2009, 05:29:01 PM

Dirty Rotten Traitor.


In that case, it makes most sense that he sign with the St. Louis (gag) Rams.

Pax, Steven+
Ex-pat Californian
Committed to excellence

Actually the Raid-duh's.

But is there that great a difference between the Raiduhs, the Lambs and the Pack'd it inners?

Yes, the Packers have 12 NFL titles.